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Ah yes, indeed! And that's why I say you are biased @moos54because you would rather keep your place at the table in the clubs and PMs then try to expand the base of commenters in the public forums. Moderators should not belong to clubs. StnCld doesn't and neither should you.

Have you noticed that all the bad members are gone? The public forum is all theirs, yet they still refrain Why? Seems pretty pitiful and shitty to harm the very platform that allows them to exist doesn't it. The ad value of CamCaps has plummetted because of the lack of content. And you, as a moderator, defend them for doing it. Whose side are you on?

I'm not at war, I'm just trying to explain things as I see them. I don't post in the VHTV forums because I don't watch it and I'm not interested it anymore because it has become what I said it would become. I'm not interested to watch people get exploited by shady sex thug managers. I don't want to come back. I'm just here to watch the fallout of CamCaps. As for you knowing better, I would just say that you are biased and unaware as thestarrider explained. Even StnCld knows, but he can't do anything about it. Only the Admin can and he clearly doesn't give a shit about this site anymore. Maybe the loss of premium memberships over time will spark an interest in him again. Either way, take your bias against me out of my comments and read again. I don't think that I am off base. While I agree that I was very toxic to this place, but the existence of JabbathCaps club is at least as toxic and I think far more simply because I am just one person and it is many. I don't think that the VHTV forums will grow again until these clubs are banned. I'm perfectly fine with whatever happens. I'm only watching to see.

Well! 😁💋

You have your spot to protect and therefore you are biased and because of your privilege, don't see it the way the people who got left out see it. To many of them, the existence of Jabbath's club, in particular, is quite toxic indeed. And yes, it does have an impact on the quality of the public forums. Public forum members have been routinely placed on the bad member list and have been bullied out of the forums with club level ignoring, shunning, ridiculing, and reporting. The club boys live their real selves in the club and side PMs and then set up guard rails in the public forums that ultimately snuff out any other point of view that goes against their mindset. And since they are intentionally withholding themselves from participating in the public forums, by not sharing pics and other information, it further chokes off the public forums. For the people who aren't privileged it is obvious. The existence of JabbathCaps is toxic. The content on VHTV is really the same as it has always been. What changed I suppose is that the managers who Jabbath isn't friends with have excelled and have grown rapidly. Indeed, there is lot of shit on his list! Since those tenants are not considered good and worthy, one would have to be a glutton for ridicule to dare to enjoy them. You see, this club dictates what is worthy and what is shit and that is the vibe that must be adhered to in the public forums. The barometer of what makes a tenant worthy will always be dependent on what the mindset of JabbathCaps deems worthy. No one is stupid enough to put themselves into a position of being laughed at in public and in private for going against it and so they leave or don't post. The result is that the public VHTV forum continues to die at the same rate that VHTV's worthy tenants vanish. There is only one way to be in your forum, their way or else.

Ha! Just thought it was a pretty funny thing to come across on YouTube. As for the videos, I probably have a bunch of them from a long time ago. I'd have to clean the thick and heavy dust off of them. 😁 More than likely you've probably seen them all already.

Ha! Came across this surfing YouTube. Skip to 8:28.

Would you agree that the idea of toxicity worked in more ways then just me? Would you agree that creating the club in reaction to me was toxic as well? Seems to me that this idea that you and Moos54 keep saying, that the content is just not very good, is telling. To me it bolsters my belief that the clubs have been a disaster for CamCaps. There has been a ton of content on VHTV. Just scroll through the Twitter feed and it's one sex event after another for as far as the eyes can read. There are 42 apts online and they continue to add more and more. It's not a lack of content, but what I hear you saying is that it is a lack of the "right kind" of content. Namely, that which you people in Jabbath's club consider worthy. I would suggest that you guys in the club want your cake and your want to eat it too. Pretty much all of the CC members at the time, who were not good enough for you and were therefore not allowed to be in the club have all but left the forums. What of them? Why did they leave? Was there a toxic environment for them to live in too? I know many of them got sick and tired of you club guys sending reports and siccing the moderators on them if they dared to speak the wrong way. Reports-Crush-Goodbye! You guys picked on people to ignore and shun and you did it as a team. You labeled other posters alias accounts of me when they were not, and then treated them accordingly. You guys acted like a mob and you still do. If I came across this place I'd be scared to post in the Mr. Shittycams threads. I know that I'd get ripped apart and laughed at. You see, the choice here is to either go along with what you guys do and like or face the hand or worse the laughing face of ridicule for sport. Who wants that? Nobody and so they don't post here. You guys poke at me for my bruised ego, but what about yours? You guys can blame everything on me, but I'm just one person. You didn't have to hide in a club and then tower over the public forums like a bully and raise your nose at the others. You guys don't want to acknowledge it, but the toxicity works both ways. Indeed, I am not the only one with the bruised ego here and so it goes. The best way for all of this to end is for these VHTV clubs to be closed. It's the only way the VHTV forums will ever thrive again.

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my heart weeps for humanity. i am not impressed at all. that's all i have to say. 😢

it never stops @ooopel no matter what, i always smile, always. ever single time. i starts deep inside of me and my head tingles and then it happens. it is truly amazing!

If I had a chance to take it all back Would you leave me anyway If I told you I could change again Would you still be here with me If I could change again Would you leave me anyway If I could change again 👇 the worst part about a death sentence is the loss of hope. that's the worst part.

Trust me, I know perfectly well what happens in these secret places. I know because I once belonged to them myself. I know exactly what sorts of things get talked about behind the door. My big issue with the JabathCaps club isn't the size so much, although it is or was very large for a club. Upwards of 100 members, I know. Blame me all you want to, but this club was a theft of the proper forums and the hook was the insider information and the access to the history. I was just a reason to belong to it. Most of the members could give a rats ass, they just wanted in for the good stuff. The bigger issue that I have with it is that it set up its primary members as a team and its members lost thier individuality and soul for joining it. I know, they fled because of me, but it came a cost whether they want to believe it or not. It did! Friendship and loyalty are powerful things and in this case, there was no escape. Oh sure, they try, some harder than others, but no matter how much they think they are themselves, they are not. They are always tied to the home base and the connection to the beacon of information is compelling for sure. This is why I particularly despised Sparkles. You see I know Jabbath and I know that he didn't want to be in this position. He did want out of it, but Sparkles would not have it. He is the one who insisted on keeping the base open and Jabbath couldn't say no even though he knew what it was doing him, to this forum, and the poeple in it. I like to envision Sparkles as an old mage inside of his tower keep, surrounded by all sorts of pitfalls and traps for those who might fail him. He is stubborn to say the least. His fist is clinched on the members of the club even if they don't believe it. And so the club continues and even if the majority of its members have gone lame, the mentality of it pervades the soul of CamCaps and the bully that it is lives on. I give the other invisible clubs some credit because these people generally stay in their holes oblivious to the forum. Their activities are laregly unknown and out of sight, but not JabbathCaps. No, this one has life and that makes demands upon its members. That they maintain solidarity to a primary mindset. And you can feel it when one does not belong. It circles and it does its thing when it needs to. This fourm is dying because of it, because of what they will not let go. Perhaps I am the cause, but I am not the reason to keep it this way. That's on them. I don't post in the VHTV forums and I don't plan to unless Jabbath and Sparkles themselves invite me to, which is never going to happen. The fact of the matter is that their hatred of me is so much that they still cannot bring themselves to expose themselves fully in public. The are snipets of themselves. The public forum gets scraps and it's obvious. There is not spark when people are not themselves and there is no interest when there is no freedom of thought. These clubs are bullies in your midst and because of it your forum dies a little each day.

skip to 4:28 if you must. great song though. Hey, what's the matter? Are your dreams all gone? Well, you know: The well was dry. Lazy, lonesome monster Will your dreams meet you Where you lie? You'll wait all night. Go and tell your daddy That your dreams fell through. Poor you. The dream must die. Don't move. Don't breath. It's you. You're safe. Two by two they pass you by. Two by two they pass you by. Hey, who's your daddy? Had you dreams fallen out? Cost of coin: An idle mind. Don't move. Don't speak. I've got you in a bind. I've got you in our mind. Two by two walk the line. Two by two and that's my time. Two by two (Two by two). Boy, you're mine.

This site ranks: #142,619 in global internet engagement How can sites like VHTV can be doing so well, yet CamCaps continue to do so poorly? I've given my reasons, does anyone else have an opinion? That number was under 20k at one point during my glory days. The moderators here must be like in heaven. Look, none of them are even online. I don't even really follow the VHTV forums anymore myself just perhaps to check-in every now and then. Apart from tenants like Mira and Henry I wouldn't be able to tell you who was who. From what I can tell it's mostly just the same old pattern over and over again. Rinse and repeat and quite predictable commentary. Looks like Budda is the primary person still posting pictures. The silly fun seems to have died off under the weight of divisiveness and loyalty. For the most part the RLC posters did not expand into other VHTV apts. The new people just seems to post occasionally, usually just to update on something that happened or to ask a question about who the tenants are or to ask what they did. The old guard seems to be still holding back on posting pics in public themselves and seem to primarily be overseers of the forums who are there to keep the commentary clean, answer questions, clarify the positions or the tenants, and of course put down bad management and unworthy tenants. As for VHTV, it seems to be willing to take anyone at this point and the managers seem to work them like employees. A lot of the comments seem to point out the fact that the tenants are being directed in one way or the other. I suppose it's hard to enjoy watching an apt full of rather desperate people who are being told when and where and with whom to have sex on cam while being fed alcohol and drugs and money to keep going. Indeed, it is hard to enjoy that if you are a normal person. I guess I'm one of those people who feels sorry for the chicken in the cage doing tricks for feed. I don't really know the extent to which the clubs are active. Clearly the Admin isn't do anything to promote his site or direct traffic back to the public forums. I shouldn't be surprised given his stance on disgust.cc. He seems to just have this forums set on auto run and whatever happens happens. The last time he even openly visited this site was 13 Oct 2020. When the leader of something doesn't give a shit, I guess it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone when nobody else does either. Happy New Year everyone!

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I have always been here I have always looked out from behind these eyes it feels like more than a lifetime feels like more than a lifetime Sometimes I get tired of the waiting sometimes I get tired of being in here is this the way it has always been? could it ever have been different? Do you ever get tired of the waiting? do you ever get tired of being in there? don't worry, nobody lives forever, nobody lives forever

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Make me search for the one good man who's living on this Earth Before the dawn begins to break Take me to the place on this Earth where they're living their life in freedom and peace And there's more to feel that you can take as real Look at the stars up in the sky All the lights are flashing by A new horizon can be seen Hold your breath, open your eyes It's a heavenly surprise A brand new start for you and me It's a new world if we stand together Don't turn the blind eye to what's up in the sky It's a new dawn for a better meaning Come alive, it's time we all arise Look at the stars it's not a dream Can't describe the things you see A miracle beyond belief Hold your breath, open your eyes Be prepared when they arrive The truth that comes from outer space Face me, won't you let me be the one who looks behind your mask Before the stream of light - it falls Chase me, come on I could show you the way to our magical secrets of life At how it feels to be free 💖

Haha! Good one. Not this time though. Indeed, there is no way out, but that does not mean there are aren't other places to be. As for VHTV, there is nothing new under the sun. I'm not impressed, but whatever. Life goes on. 💋

@jabbath1987 @Sparkles i'll step aside. whatever you may think of me, i got hurt too, by both of you. i'm sure the people here would appreciate it if you gave up the divisive hideouts, including you others hiding in caves, and returned to be yourselves among the public at large fully again. i can't change anything. truth is, i just don't enjoy this anymore. i don't hate anyone. i'm moving on. i'm sorry.

ok, i talked to support and they convinced me that they are over 18. very close though. anyways, i'm not into watching people who "look" younger than 18. so, enjoy perverts!