Clara & Stas - Part #3

[alt0na_O7]

8 hours ago, Jay-Jay said:

there are only a few people who are constantly sharing here. Writers only wrote that they are perfect, wonderful, praised too. I do not know if they are seasoned, but to me they are amateur porn stars.  they can not change my definition of a porn star if they are not only having sex with the group and swingin partner.

The absence of any criticism in this part of the forum makes it look like North Korea. 🙂

 

The North Korean sample was good. But I know there's no Internet network open to the world. No Internet, no criticism, no problem, the leader is perfect :)

[Jay-Jay]

7 minutes ago, alt0na_O7 said:

The North Korean sample was good. But I know there's no Internet network open to the world. No Internet, no criticism, no problem, the leader is perfect 🙂

Thank you.

you seem like a wise man.

[alt0na_O7]

7 minutes ago, Jay-Jay said:

Thank you.

you seem like a wise man.

This compliment has told me a French man in the past. He told rude words to Clara, and that's why he argued with me here. But I'm just a grumpy old man.

[letsdothis]

16 hours ago, Jay-Jay said:

there are only a few people who are constantly sharing here. Writers only wrote that they are perfect, wonderful, praised too. I do not know if they are seasoned, but to me they are amateur porn stars.  they can not change my definition of a porn star if they are not only having sex with the group and swingin partner.

The absence of any criticism in this part of the forum makes it look like North Korea or former Soviet countries. 🙂

 

I don't believe Clara or Stas are any kind of porn actors, be it seasoned,
professional, amateur, unseasoned or any other type. I do see them as
a very expressive (especially Clara), very loving couple trying to satisfy
their fans. But, that's JMHO.

Does Clara play to the cameras? No more so than Leora (from RLC).
Would you call Leora a porn actor? Well, you're new here, so I'll give
you the answer: I don't know anyone who would. In fact, if you did and
you said it in her topic, you might, almost literally, be crucified by her
worshipers. They actually call her, the Goddess. She and Clara are
almost like two peas in a pod, the way they both play to the cams.

Does playing the cam angles make Clara a porn actor? No, I think it makes
her a very smart and very savvy lady. When you get paid to do something
that's usually called a job. Most people try to, for various reasons, do the 
best they can at their jobs. Theirs is a little different than most jobs, but
I'm sure they still want to earn as much as possible, impress the boss and
keep their job. Satisfying their fan base is what accomplishes that. But,
that doesn't make them porn actors. It just makes them very good at
doing their job.

You've been a member here less than two weeks, yet you feel qualified to
pass judgment on people you probably know very little about. And, that's
fine. That's your prerogative on this forum. Somebody will usually have an
opposing opinion and that's their privilege, as well. Who's right and who's
wrong. Well, let's just say, I don't see any porn actors in this apartment.
But, like I said earlier, that's JMHO.

[dh2995]

Il y a 4 heures, alt0na_O7 a dit :

This compliment has told me a French man in the past. He told rude words to Clara, and that's why he argued with me here. But I'm just a grumpy old man.

Maybe I'm wrong but I have a feeling that I am "the French man in the past" you're referring to. But I didn't tell rude words to Clara - how could I ? 😉

Anyway, I have already said what I think of them and why I like them.
Some make sex shows, some make a show of their sex life, others, like C&S make a show of their love. 
Someone, I can't remember who, earlier on this forum, defined C&S as true exhibitionists who truly enjoy being watched. This is about how I perceive them. 
When you know there are cams all over the place with hundreds of people watching behind it must be difficult to forget them and be totally  natural, in whatever apts. Their "naturalness" comes, I think, from the fact that they, with no hypocrisy, enjoy being watched and doing what they do, so they instinctively want to look their best, hence the angles and poses. But I wouldn't call them actors, porn or not, because they seem to really enjoy it and their pleasure truly looks real. 
I, like you were before, was first interested in their true love relationship, and still am. 
As to what you now call a documentary, I, like you did before with them, like sharing what I think are beautiful moments. Sorry if it has bothered you and some others.  

[letsdothis]

5 minutes ago, dh2995 said:

C&S make a show of their love.

Nailed it!!! 👍✔️

[dh2995]

il y a 1 minute, letsdothis a dit :

Nailed it!!! 👍✔️

Thanks 🙂 Your post arrived while I was writing mine, I quite agree with it although I don't watch RLC, then Leora 😉 

[letsdothis]

5 minutes ago, dh2995 said:

Thanks 🙂 Your post arrived while I was writing mine, I quite agree with it although I don't watch RLC, then Leora 😉 

Thanks. Leora has been on RLC for 5+ years. I would call her RLC's
"flagship tenant". She's done a few things differently through the
years, but it's gotten to be a bit repetitive with her. I still like watching
her. She is definitely the bating queen of RLC, but she's no Clara. Plus,
her partner, Paul, doesn't seem to be as interested in sex as Leora is,
which is kind of strange because Leora has a smoking hot body and
she walks around the apt either very scantily clad or completely naked,
almost all the time.

[dh2995]

Il y a 2 heures, letsdothis a dit :

Thanks. Leora has been on RLC for 5+ years. I would call her RLC's
"flagship tenant". She's done a few things differently through the
years, but it's gotten to be a bit repetitive with her. I still like watching
her. She is definitely the bating queen of RLC, but she's no Clara. Plus,
her partner, Paul, doesn't seem to be as interested in sex as Leora is,
which is kind of strange because Leora has a smoking hot body and
she walks around the apt either very scantily clad or completely naked,
almost all the time.

Thanks for the info. Well, although I probably wouldn't be able to follow them by then, I wish C&S to be still enjoying themselves here in 5+ years 🙂 And I trust that, even with cam angles, etc, etc, they would still have their fans (and critics, of course, as is natural). JMHO, of course.

[alt0na_O7]

8 hours ago, dh2995 said:

Maybe I'm wrong but I have a feeling that I am "the French man in the past" you're referring to. But I didn't tell rude words to Clara - how could I ? 😉

Anyway, I have already said what I think of them and why I like them.
Some make sex shows, some make a show of their sex life, others, like C&S make a show of their love. 
Someone, I can't remember who, earlier on this forum, defined C&S as true exhibitionists who truly enjoy being watched. This is about how I perceive them. 
When you know there are cams all over the place with hundreds of people watching behind it must be difficult to forget them and be totally  natural, in whatever apts. Their "naturalness" comes, I think, from the fact that they, with no hypocrisy, enjoy being watched and doing what they do, so they instinctively want to look their best, hence the angles and poses. But I wouldn't call them actors, porn or not, because they seem to really enjoy it and their pleasure truly looks real. 
I, like you were before, was first interested in their true love relationship, and still am. 
As to what you now call a documentary, I, like you did before with them, like sharing what I think are beautiful moments. Sorry if it has bothered you and some others.  

Of course, you weren't that Frenchman in the past. ST4B was someone with a nickname. From that day on, he never wrote here again. Now I think I've seen more objectivity. Love, I think there's love between them, but it's like they're more experienced, conscious and professional than in the past. The bad thing is, they can't tolerate the criticism. Past discussion Part 1, page 136.

 

[dh2995]

Il y a 2 heures, alt0na_O7 a dit :

Of course, you weren't that Frenchman in the past. ST4B was someone with a nickname. From that day on, he never wrote here again. Now I think I've seen more objectivity. Love, I think there's love between them, but it's like they're more experienced, conscious and professional than in the past. The bad thing is, they can't tolerate the criticism. Past discussion Part 1, page 136.

 

OK, sorry for this mistaken identity 🙂

[alt0na_O7]

2 hours ago, dh2995 said:

OK, sorry for this mistaken identity 🙂

No Problem, 

your "share of documentary tastes to me" will certainly not bother me. on the contrary, like everyone else in this place, I like your share.

I just wanted you to see the events and the people a little more objective.
someone who joins here sees them like a porn star because doing that in front of the camera is only defined in that way.
I have respect for your admiration for them. a few months ago I thought like you. you asked for a signed picture from a rock singer you were a fan of and he said "fuck you". what do you think? he is a great artist again. but you are no longer a fan of him.

When I am indecisive about a person, I listen to someone who recognizes him as "good man" and who knows him as "bad man". I do empathy. I can't tell you to behave like this, you're a mature person. this is only advice.

It does not bother me, but some of your behavior is funny to me now. Please forgive me, do not take it as disrespect. Continuous praise only contributes to the development of her "simple ego" of human emotion.

In Part 1 of the forum, dozens of different people have shared. In Part 2, it's diminished. In Part 3, only 3-5 peoples sharing. It's probably only you and LetsDothis in Part 4.

I suggested BDSM to them to get rid of boredom. you opposed it. but they tried it the day before.

they will try group sex in the future or they will leave this house. because no one with such a great ego can despise to be left behind.

This house is the flagship of VHTV. maybe if this house is really voyeur, things can get better. but now I'm desperate for that.