Just an observation

[Timewarp]

I think it is cute and funny that Nina stands for a full minute or so stark naked in the kitchen and then a few minutes later sits on the couch, legs tightly closed seemingly concerned about modesty.

I am sure it's the force of habit that women develop but it is still adorable.

[Mysterygolfer]

I think it is cute and funny that Nina stands for a full minute or so stark naked in the kitchen and then a few minutes later sits on the couch, legs tightly closed seemingly concerned about modesty.

I am sure it's the force of habit that women develop but it is still adorable.

Could be that the camera is closer in the living room, and at an angle that would get more personal than when standing.

[Timewarp]

I am curious. They have a visitor at the moment. If I am not mistaken, she has been spending time there because she broke up with her girlfriend.

If she as a guest wanted to take a shower in peace and turn off the camera, would that cause some kind of outrage here? Would people take the stance that she knows where she is and she owes it to the viewers to leave the camera on?

[miscvoyeur]

I am curious. They have a visitor at the moment. If I am not mistaken, she has been spending time there because she broke up with her girlfriend.

If she as a guest wanted to take a shower in peace and turn off the camera, would that cause some kind of outrage here? Would people take the stance that she knows where she is and she owes it to the viewers to leave the camera on?

People pay money to see the cameras. Therefore she has no right to turn them off or to block them. If she has a problem being naked in front of the camera, she has the option to either shower some place else or maneuver herself in such a way that hides herself. It is up to the tenants to let their guests know that there will be cameras in the house and so they have the option to be there or not or show as much skin as they're comfortable with. So to answer your question, yes it will cause outrage (and rightly so).

[wmax]

She knows about the cameras. And she don't have to show skin. If she really want to shower without cams, she can use the second shower cabin in the bathroom. But obviously, she has no big problem with being nude in front of the cams. Some days ago, she has used the bathtub for showering, though she took care to show us only her backside. But I'm perfectly ok with that, as she is no tenant and has no obligations in regards to RLC.

I'm absolutely sure they don't turn off the cams for such a reason.

I've considered some kind of power failure, but there's no other hint (no candles in the apt...) so I'm probably wrong here. We could simply ask RLC about the "maintenance" but I don't believe in an honest answer (if any). 

[Franklyn]

Well if it happens again we'll know wont we? :) RLC could be ONE GUY sitting in his home behind 10 screens or whatever. He set these flats/apartments up for these people and they agree to be filmed. As we can see it LAGS severely at times and goes DOWN at times seeming "odd". So if I was paying top dollar for this service I would be pissed off about that. But anyway, RLC is probably run with few people at most and they contract out to people for work on cameras and such. I DO like the RLC project a lot  and appreciate the free view, so I don't like to talk bad about it. I just wish they would change a few things  but it's obvious why they do what they do. They surely look to CamCaps (our posts) for answers that's for sure and the residents know about this as well. By the way, Kira has the cutest butt and I LOVE her calm composure and don't think she's boring in the least. :)

[wmax]

Well if it happens again we'll know wont we? :) RLC could be ONE GUY sitting in his home behind 10 screens or whatever. He set these flats/apartments up for these people and they agree to be filmed. As we can see it LAGS severely at times and goes DOWN at times seeming "odd". So if I was paying top dollar for this service I would be pissed off about that. But anyway, RLC is probably run with few people at most and they contract out to people for work on cameras and such. I DO like the RLC project a lot  and appreciate the free view, so I don't like to talk bad about it. I just wish they would change a few things  but it's obvious why they do what they do. They surely look to CamCaps (our posts) for answers that's for sure and the residents know about this as well. By the way, Kira has the cutest butt and I LOVE her calm composure and don't think she's boring in the least. :)

The assumption of only few guys are running the project is quite plausible. But regarding to lagging and freezing, we don't know how many streams they have to deliver simultaneously. At least the number of viewers of free cams at "interesting times" is certainly much higher then the number of their customers. So if their streaming capabilities are not on par with that, lagging is inevitable. They are not Yout**e or V*m*o.

But to be clear, taking an apartment on maintenance without good reason is nothing what I'm paying RLC for.

They should tell their customers these reasons, as they do email announcements regarding new tenants and such as well. This would be more transparent and much more convenient.

And yes, Kira looks really good IMHO. But I like Nina too (I know you will disagree here...  ), she has her own qualities.  ;)

[Timewarp]

So let me summarize what has been said so far. A guest in one of these houses, someone who has no contract with RLC, has no right to ask the tenants to let's keep it simple and just say cover up the camera for them to let's say take a shower? Please note that I am playing a bit of devil's advocate here.

I suppose they could plan ahead and shower in a bathing suit for instance.

[miscvoyeur]

So let me summarize what has been said so far. A guest in one of these houses, someone who has no contract with RLC, has no right to ask the tenants to let's keep it simple and just say cover up the camera for them to let's say take a shower?

That is correct.

[EMMETT111]

at Dasha and Demid's apartment a guest took a shower and the 3 cameras all went static until she was done then all 3 cameras came back on line

[Ozi]

at Dasha and Demid's apartment a guest took a shower and the 3 cameras all went static until she was done then all 3 cameras came back on line

And?

[wmax]

The question is, what I am paying for as a RLC customer. AFAIK there are no terms and conditions that would make this clear.

Their headline is „the private life of other people 24/7“. Certainly this means the life of the tenants. The life of the guests too? I doubt that.

So should a guest have the right to ask for covering up (some) cams.

Though it feels a little like betrayal, because I’m paying for to see what’s going on, I think yes, a guest has this right. Even a tenant has this right under some circumstances, like illness. Because I don’t own these people. In the end they’re humans, not objects.

What I expect as a customer from the RLC service? Watching boring behavior and conversations? Covered up cams all the time? Certainly not.

Secretly I expect hot interaction and naked skin. I’m sure RLC encourages their tenants to deliver exactly that, because this is the business model. And at N&K I have absolutely no reason to complain.

So it is a porn site? No, and Yes. It’s voyeuristic porn, but not reduced to naked skin. Weeks ago, as the tensions seems to run high between N&K, a lot of posts here on CC expressed the concerns about a break up, followed by accusals and suspicions of certain persons (you know what I mean). It shows the connection of many of us with the tenants, and this is another part of the voyeuristic porn, beyond naked skin  ;)