apartment 2

[ron097]

Yep, valid points. The girls are indeed not perfectly innocent. Tanya cheated on her boyfriend and Dizi did some things that makes me wonder what kind of game she plays. Agreed. I don't feel sorry for Akira, BTW. He has to learn that certain things in life will have consequences. So he fucked the wrong girl. The girl who sees her future husband when she looks at him  :D Deal with it.

And Karen, it's strange how this guy reacted on the cheating. One moment he seems angry, the other moment he enjoys a sexual massage from Petra at the same evening as if nothing happened. So, it's difficult for me to feel sorry for him.

As for Tanya pressuring Akira to have sex, I think she finds out that these moments are the only moments he actually pays attention to her.

And I have a hard time figuring out IF this all is scripted or not. Or maybe some parts of it. I mean, yesterday evening when the new guy arrived they played a game that isn't played by normal people  :)

As for the scripted part, people can still feel the pressure to do something against their will. Simply because the script changes. Of course if they really don't want to do it, they can just leave the project.

Ah, I don't know. I'm new with this site. And honestly I'm confused and flabbergasted what I've seen so far. So maybe I have to take it as it is and enjoy the ride (as long as I enjoy it).     

Thanks for your well written opinions!

although i do think tanya has gotten in over her head, i do not feel the least bit sorry for karen. he was all good as long as he thought he was going to be involved. once he figured out no one wanted him is when he got pissed.

[Timewarp]

One thing I will say. If Dizi thinks she can go on teasing men the way she has with no potential consequences she had better think again. She is a disaster just waiting to happen.

[MrBox]

I can appreciate the opinion but I don't see it this way at all. The only person I really feel sorry for is Karen. In only a few short days he went from having a girlfriend to now being forced to bear witness to her getting fucked like a whore by someone else. That's got to really sting. And maybe Karen does need a few lessons in how to please women or be more sexually adventurous as I'm sure somebody is going to say, but he didn't deserve to have that happen to him.

As for Dizi, there's no reason to feel sorry for her. She obviously can go to apt 2 as she sees fit, she can still hang out and fuck Tanya if she wants, and it's not like she should care that Tanya is fucking Akira seeing as how she didn't care that Tanya was in a relationship with Karen. I'm almost willing to bet money that if she wanted to Tanya, nobody would complain. And that's not even mentioning that she CHOSE to get into the shower with Ivorian the other night. She's not all that innocent in all of this.

I also kinda feel sorry for Akira since like I said in a previous post, he now has to live with his one night stand. And I see the opposite of Tanya; instead of "living with a porn dude who has to please her whenever he wants" I see a girl that clings to him. She's the one chose, and continues to, sleep with him. And outside of the first time they had sex, I see Tanya being the one that is pressuring Akira for more sex and affection. So it is obvious that this arrangement doesn't bother her.

I think what people fail to realize about these women is that nobody is really forcing them to do anything they don't want. I used to believe that VV was all scripted but I don't anymore. Maybe they specifically the tenants of apt 2 because they have lots of sex, it is possible, but I do not think they are paid porn actors that are paid to have sex (if that makes any sense), otherwise you have to call everybody in RLC porn actors.  And even if anybody else here thinks it's all scripted, I would respect that. But it is not fair to be bias about it. If you think it's scripted then there's no reason to feel sorry for anybody and you have to admit and realize that everybody there is playing a role, including women Tanya and Dizi. Or if you don't think it's scripted, then you have to realize that everybody makes the choices of their own free will and does things they want, including women Tanya and Dizi. It is not fair to make the women out to be innocent victims and the guys to be evil predators.

Except the condom incident, I also think that the girls are treated fair in both appartments. The girls do not look as they feel uncomfortable. So. No issue, that need to be discussed.

Karen, on the other hand, could have guessed this separation weeks ago. From the beginning, there relationship was strange. He behaved like a child. Unfortunately for him, there are not a lot of girls out there which like it to be attact with the water gun or with the sitting ball. Especially not several times a day. Almost always she  complained and almost always he has continued. At least the next day. Stupid. So stupid. A short time this might be endure, but for a lifetime. I do not think so. 

Hmm ... Maybe the separation was  suspected by VV from the beginning.  I had always wondered, why they had casted him.

[MrBox]

My opinion so far:

When I joined VV (a week ago) everything looked promising:

Tver: a nice and hot place with plenty of sex. Threesomes and beautiful girls (girlfriends or friends with benefits) and a lot of parties;

Voronezh: a more down to earth apartment. But with the arrival of Dizi things went better and better.

At that moment we had boy/girl and girl/girl sex and even some boy/boy teasing. So something for everybody. Just perfect! The only thing VV had to do was remove Azam and replaced him with another couple. Maybe a little too crowdy, but it would be interesting.

But then VV decided to bring these apartments together. Because, more action means more members, means more money  :) As some of us predicted, this wasn't without consequences. Queen Petra and her minions play the game on a whole other level. Karen and Dizi were very uncomfortable at the beginning.

And here we are now:

Tver: just another couples apartment. No more parties and a fucked up Tanya with a porndude who doesn't care about her as long as she pleases him when he wants it. I can't even look at them;

Voronezh: poor Dizi. At this moment she is my favorite. But VV knows that she is the only one who can save this apartment from an early death. So with the arrival of the new dude they have increased the pressure. I'm afraid that this apartment will be a totally scripted shitshow with the main plot 'the deflowering of Dizi'. And yes, this is indeed as cheap as it sounds  ??? But that is want the public wants, right?

We all know Dizi isn't interested in any of these guys. The only person she really wants to have sex with (from the beginning) is Tanya. But we also know that that is not gonna happen.

I don't understand why VV brought in another guy and not another girl. With another girl we had a better chance of some interesting interaction. Now we have two boring dudes who are waiting all day for Dizi to come home to lure her into some childish sexgame. And this Karen is so creepy. Why isn't he removed?

I hope my predictions are false and everything will turn out right. But at this moment I fear that things only will get worse with Dizi as the main attration/victim. I can only hope that she has enough self respect to leave the project as soon as she is pressured to do something she doesn't want. 

This corresponds almost exactly to what I think. :)

There are a suitcase and clothing on his bed. So. It looks as if Karen is about to leaf. This would allow many improvements. So. Maybe I should not give up so easily. Now, I would be delighted if a real couple would moving in. ;)

[Timewarp]

As for Tanya, she appears to be relegated to the role of sex slave/maid. Perhaps it suits her. Some women are sadly attracted to men who treat them like crap.

[Zwavelaar]

One thing I will say. If Dizi thinks she can go on teasing men the way she has with no potential consequences she had better think again. She is a disaster just waiting to happen.

Yes, it would be interesting to see what kind of girl she really is. I guess we will find out pretty soon  :D 

[miscvoyeur]

Hmm ... Maybe the separation was  suspected by VV from the beginning.  I had always wondered, why they had casted him.

You have to remember that that they casted BOTH of them, not just one or the other. VV had no way of seeing how their relationship was going to play out. We also don't know how long Karen and Tanya were together before they joined up with VV and we don't know how good their relationship was before that.

Some women are sadly attracted to men who treat them like crap.

I do not think it is fair to make this kind of statement when we have not seen such action from Akira. Neither one of them have had any kind of argument so far and we have not seen him be mean to her. For now, everything is good with them.

[Timewarp]

You have to remember that that they casted BOTH of them, not just one or the other. VV had no way of seeing how their relationship was going to play out. We also don't know how long Karen and Tanya were together before they joined up with VV and we don't know how good their relationship was before that.

I do not think it is fair to make this kind of statement when we have not seen such action from Akira. Neither one of them have had any kind of argument so far and we have not seen him be mean to her. For now, everything is good with them.

Wow, if you can look at their interaction and call that anything that remotely resembles a healthy relationship then I am at a bit of a loss for words.

Edit: More importantly, where is Petra I wonder?

[miscvoyeur]

I never said healthy relationship as we don't know what they are. But I also don't think you can say he treats her like crap because there is no evidence of that. All we know right now is that they are two people who fuck each other.

[MrBox]

You have to remember that that they casted BOTH of them, not just one or the other. VV had no way of seeing how their relationship was going to play out. We also don't know how long Karen and Tanya were together before they joined up with VV and we don't know how good their relationship was before that.

Am I the only one how think he can not keep up with Tanya. I always thought that would be really obvious.

No idea where they are come from. He was perhaps the best thing to get there. But this is Moscow. Maybe they hoped for some change, just because there relationship seems to be wrong. I dont know.

[Timewarp]

I never said healthy relationship as we don't know what they are. But I also don't think you can say he treats her like crap because there is no evidence of that. All we know right now is that they are two people who fuck each other.

....and beyond that, he pretty much ignores her. Just my opinion but that is one of the ways I define treating a woman like crap.

[kitek]

You have to remember that that they casted BOTH of them, not just one or the other. VV had no way of seeing how their relationship was going to play out. We also don't know how long Karen and Tanya were together before they joined up with VV and we don't know how good their relationship was before that.

I do not think it is fair to make this kind of statement when we have not seen such action from Akira. Neither one of them have had any kind of argument so far and we have not seen him be mean to her. For now, everything is good with them.

On the night when Karen showed up in apt 2 and wanted talk to her and she was refusing talking

to him he was calling her a slut and said he will call her parents and she should go home.

Later on Tanya was telling girls she was going to break with him for long time as she wasn't happy with him.