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Mr1010, Could you clarify something for me.

Your post at 6.05 today says "I am a lawyer"

Your post 46 minutes later says "I am not a lawyer"

Please let me know which is true and why the contradiction took place

so I can decide whether to sue (or not).  :scratchchin:

:haha: :haha:

My answer would be easy:

Lawyer in US, No lawyer in Russia :)

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Upndown, are you playing with me? My post at 6:05 said nothing about being lawyer and I had no post at 6:51. I did have a post at 6:49 and in it I said I was a lawyer. Are you joshing me? Re read my posts.

True as miscvoyeur says of course I am only attorney in US not Russia. But these contracts in the entertainment industry are international. The girls shoot all over Europe, not just Russia. Julia's girls have shot in Prague are going to shoot in Budapest after January 1 according to Julia'a agency's site. They could possibly, though not likely even shoot in the US. These kinds of contracts have basic consistent principles of contract law involved. You can keep someone from for instance shooting your own home amateur sex videos and selling them while you are under contract with porn producers. Or selling videos from your time in VV (VV would sue them also over that also). They can't under human rights' principles prohibit someone from having sex where you make no profit. Rights of privacy and freedom from economic slavery.

Again, do you guys not get this one thing? She has done a blowjob for Akira, has had lesbian sex with Petra. She appears naked all the time. Yet she appears in pornos where she does just blow jobs or just lesbian sex and always is naked. Why does that not violate her contracts with porn producers? Now, maybe if she did dangerous sex and was injured doing it, then that might violate some provisions of contracts to keep her safe for future pornos. Also to not deface or ruin her body in some way. So, probably bdsm is out.

Sex or blowjobs or even anal or lesbian stuff is not likely to injure or ruin her body.

And lastly, we will know the answer anyway once she has intercourse. Why not wait for it?

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You know, I just had a funny thought. Why don't we find a way to contact Julia at her model agency to find out if any contract Nikky has with her porn producers prohibits her from having intercourse at VV? I know this is somewhat tongue in cheek, but not totally. I could actually try sending an attorney type email to her agency asking if there is such a prohibition. Of course, I doubt they would respond. Or better yet I could ask an entertainment lawyer in the US about it. Or I could use the internet and find out. Maybe since I am curious I will do that. I'll let you know what I find out. You guys can all check also, but you have to know the right search terms to ask.

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Again, do you guys not get this one thing? She has done a blowjob for Akira, has had lesbian sex with Petra. She appears naked all the time. Yet she appears in pornos where she does just blow jobs or just lesbian sex and always is naked. Why does that not violate her contracts with porn producers? Now, maybe if she did dangerous sex and was injured doing it, then that might violate some provisions of contracts to keep her safe for future pornos. Also to not deface or ruin her body in some way. So, probably bdsm is out.

Wait, Nikky is a pornstar?

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Check out the Kink Live Performance Agreement (a pdf file) for an example of a porn industry contract. Although this one seems to refer to live webcam performances, possibly including bdsm, it seems like a basic contract with porn performers. In it there are no prohibitions against outside activities of performers. None!

You realize that even if produced outside the US, all of these pornos have a major audience in the US. Thus, the contracts have to comply with US law if they want to show it or sell it here. And under US law, it is against public policy to prevent personal conduct by independent contractors outside of their porn performances. It violates the right to privacy under the US Constitution. They aren't even employees of the porn producers, they are independent contractors, more accurately they are clients of their porn agents (Julia in this case).  And she can't prohibit it either.

Now, having said all this, I don't think they will keep getting porn work if they damage their bodies for instance with bdsm or deface themselves in some way. BTW, why would it not violate their contracts if they break legs or suffer serious injury while skiing a dangerous ski slope?

And one other thing, non-compete clauses in contracts, which are not in all contracts, refer to employees leaving their jobs with a certain expertise in a certain industry and then working  for a competitor within a certain period of time after their employment ends. Porn performers are not employees but are independent contractors. They can't control their outside work. Even non-compete clauses are not always upheld by US courts. Some can be ridiculously overbroad and thus illegal. A clause about no intercourse would be viewed that way. And many performers actually work for several porn companies at the same time. Why can't they be excluded from performing for other companies?

Anyone here is welcome if do their own legal research if they want. I will look over anything someone finds regarding these contracts.

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Urban noodles, yes Nikky is a porn star. Check her under porn name Evelina Darling. She has done many pornos including anal, blowjobs, deep throat, anal, vaginal, lesbian sex, three guys, etc. So did Julia and Gavin who were here until recently (Julia  under porn name Emma Brown). Julia is Nikky's porn modeling agent.

It's a wild world!

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Upndown, are you playing with me? My post at 6:05 said nothing about being lawyer and I had no post at 6:51. I did have a post at 6:49 and in it I said I was a lawyer. Are you joshing me? Re read my posts.

True as miscvoyeur says of course I am only attorney in US not Russia. But these contracts in the entertainment industry are international. The girls shoot all over Europe, not just Russia. Julia's girls have shot in Prague are going to shoot in Budapest after January 1 according to Julia'a agency's site. They could possibly, though not likely even shoot in the US. These kinds of contracts have basic consistent principles of contract law involved. You can keep someone from for instance shooting your own home amateur sex videos and selling them while you are under contract with porn producers. Or selling videos from your time in VV (VV would sue them also over that also). They can't under human rights' principles prohibit someone from having sex where you make no profit. Rights of privacy and freedom from economic slavery.

Again, do you guys not get this one thing? She has done a blowjob for Akira, has had lesbian sex with Petra. She appears naked all the time. Yet she appears in pornos where she does just blow jobs or just lesbian sex and always is naked. Why does that not violate her contracts with porn producers? Now, maybe if she did dangerous sex and was injured doing it, then that might violate some provisions of contracts to keep her safe for future pornos. Also to not deface or ruin her body in some way. So, probably bdsm is out.

Sex or blowjobs or even anal or lesbian stuff is not likely to injure or ruin her body.

And lastly, we will know the answer anyway once she has intercourse. Why not wait for it?

If you look on page 11, there is a quote with your name on it posted by Beancounter.

Also, one of the main reasons for emots -  :haha: :doh: :headache: - is to help show the attitude behind the post. So if it has -  :haha: :haha: - after it, it clearly shows a lighthearted post.

B.T.W., I'm still at a loss why you still insist on taking twenty lines to make a two line post!

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Oh, Beancounter says "I am not a lawyer".  Not my statement obviously. And I did say were you joshing me. As to the length of that post I gave my opinion there as a lawyer with my legal rationale. I don't mind tongue in cheek by you or miscvoyeur, but Beancounter didn't understand from a legal point of view so I explained. I do not mind making a long post when it is required to explain. I don't really care if others don't like it. So there it is.

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Urban noodles, yes Nikky is a porn star. Check her under porn name Evelina Darling. She has done many pornos including anal, blowjobs, deep throat, anal, vaginal, lesbian sex, three guys, etc. So did Julia and Gavin who were here until recently (Julia  under porn name Emma Brown). Julia is Nikky's porn modeling agent.

It's a wild world!

I guess this would explain her lack of sex at VV... At least she is a porn star :lmao: :woohoo:

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Nack, I am still up. Unfortunately, I don't have video, but I will tell you what happened tonight.

It was a good night. Once again in Tver. Akira was sick and stayed in Voro most of the night. First thing I noticed when I went on was that Akira and Nikky (yes, Nikky is Natasha) are now sleeping separate in Voro listed in different rooms.

Nikky was over in Tver most of the night with Ivo and Sonia and Petra and her new boyfriend. She went over wearing the most skimpy sexy outfit with just a blanket covering her. They played sexy charades games. Almost immediately Nikky took off her top and was topless most of the night. Later, Petra, her new bf and nikky had a three way in Petra's room. First, Petra and Nikky ate each other out a bit. Then the guy joined in. Petra sucked him off and swallowed his cum while new guy played with Nikky's breasts and she played with his abdomen nearly touching his cock while Petra blew him.

Oh, earlier, looking right at the camera, Nikky and Petra both deepthroated a dildo! Nikky was so f...ing hot all night! Of course, Sonia and Ivo of course had sex like three times.

Nikky let out her Ms. Hyde sexy tonight! No more reluctant Nikky. It seems likely that since Petra let Nikky play with her bf that we can eventually expect Nikky to suck and fuck him as well. I am looking forward to the first two girl blow job in VV.

Poor Akira was the odd man out. I don't know what is going on with him but he doesn't seem to want to do anything with Nikky. Maybe Charlie will be coming back. Someone thought he said something about the 14th.

Some here were unhappy that she didn't go all the way. First of all, this is the first night they did all this and got pretty far, and secondly Petra even let her guy and Nikky touch each other, it wasn't just Petra eating out the girl. I was very happy with the progress so far. Obviously, VV wants to use Nikky's porn assets. About time!

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Nack, I am still up. Unfortunately, I don't have video, but I will tell you what happened tonight.

It was a good night. Once again in Tver. Akira was sick and stayed in Voro most of the night. First thing I noticed when I went on was that Akira and Nikky (yes, Nikky is Natasha) are now sleeping separate in Voro listed in different rooms.

Nikky was over in Tver most of the night with Ivo and Sonia and Petra and her new boyfriend. She went over wearing the most skimpy sexy outfit with just a blanket covering her. They played sexy charades games. Almost immediately Nikky took off her top and was topless most of the night. Later, Petra, her new bf and nikky had a three way in Petra's room. First, Petra and Nikky ate each other out a bit. Then the guy joined in. Petra sucked him off and swallowed his cum while new guy played with Nikky's breasts and she played with his abdomen nearly touching his cock while Petra blew him.

Oh, earlier, looking right at the camera, Nikky and Petra both deepthroated a dildo! Nikky was so f...ing hot all night! Of course, Sonia and Ivo of course had sex like three times.

Nikky let out her Ms. Hyde sexy tonight! No more reluctant Nikky. It seems likely that since Petra let Nikky play with her bf that we can eventually expect Nikky to suck and fuck him as well. I am looking forward to the first two girl blow job in VV.

Poor Akira was the odd man out. I don't know what is going on with him but he doesn't seem to want to do anything with Nikky. Maybe Charlie will be coming back. Someone thought he said something about the 14th.

Some here were unhappy that she didn't go all the way. First of all, this is the first night they did all this and got pretty far, and secondly Petra even let her guy and Nikky touch each other, it wasn't just Petra eating out the girl. I was very happy with the progress so far. Obviously, VV wants to use Nikky's porn assets. About time!

:yeahbaby: Wow that was a lot in one night.Hope they give us a show when i am up.. ::)

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