tallguy74 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 good evening.. hope everyone had a great holiday. I have read the last few pages to catch up on things, and it looks like I didn't miss anything special. I wonder where the new girl went? I don't see her lasting long in vv. I also think greg changed his mind and left. vv needs to give us more updates on the newbies. I would rather see akira move back to tver. Natasha and akira don't fit together. now that Julia and gavin are gone, voro is extremely boring. they should put Christy and her bf in voro, not tver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natres Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 VV para bunun için var, artık gülünç duruma aldı, gün ya da yakın zamanda benim üyeliğimi iptal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Hey, tallguy, how are you doing? The way things are going now, I wouldn't rush to subscribe again. Mind you, I'd love to have you back. But these apartments suck right now. I knew nothing would happen between Natasha and Akira tonight. Who know if it ever will? Natasha gets to stay in VV and doesn't need to do anything. She doesn't even mesh at all with Akira. She stayed up all night trying to wait Akira out until he was sleepy and would go to bed. Then she went to bed and fell out in an instant. That sheet was the funniest, symbolic thing I ever saw. The symbolism, which couldn't have been lost on Akira, a veteran of VV, was don't even think of touching me tonight. Literally, every time Akira sat near her she grabbed the sheet again and put it near her. She could have acted like an adult and told him, I don't want to do anything tonight, instead of acting like a scared little girl. Christy is honestly the only hope for VV now. I remember when I was younger and dating, a couple of girls who didn't want to fool around. None of them ever, ever put something between their crotch and me! I even dated a very catholic girl who told me she wanted to be a virgin until she was married to her husband. We actually dated a while. She never ever put a blanket in her lap even when we were in her den alone. This is freaking comical! VV should send her back to Julia and Gavin. She works for Julia anyway, I saw "Evelina Darling" on her modeling agency site. Anyway, isn't she going to shoot soon in like Prague or Budapest? I saw some of Julia's girls were shooting in Budapest after the 1st of January. Go make money and stopping taking ours! I think that I will give VV until the 1st of January to get their act together and show us some content. If Christy and her bf come before then to Tver that may keep me a little while longer. If there was any better alternative voyeur site, I would have already left. I may look around anyway. And I have let VV know how I feel. Fuck the better cameras, they don't work right anyway. And what is the use of seeing no content on better cameras! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallguy74 Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 hey mr1010.. I don't have any reason to join vv right now. theres nothing much to see and its very boring. I have started to limit my viewing as well. the free cams have bad angles and don't offer much. I only watch voro. I don't watch tver cuz I don't like ivor or petra. I do like Sonia, but I still wont watch. I wont blame u if u decide to cancel. their tweets are too funny sometimes. they don't make sense. I will wait and see if things change or get better.. if not, I will stop watching. theres always RLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 You know I was checking out some other voyeur sites like peephole.com and others. Some have much better sex, but no feel of a relationship. So I realized that I went to a site like RLC and then VV because I wanted more than just sex which I get from free porn sites (I could just do Chaturbate or Bongacams if I wanted). I wanted more sex than I get from rlc, but also more than just sex. I want to see the interactions, want the people to get along, want at least transient relationships, want fun and games. But I want some sex and sexy games also. It is like threading the needle. I like the fact that the Tver people are friends, get along well. I may not always like their scripted stuff but at least they work well together. Voro as VV says is their experiment. But they experiment too much, change too often. Get a solid cast of people like Phil, Dizi, Tanya and Sonia were and stick with them! When people know each other they play sexy games and have fun! There may not be better out there with that criteria, although I will still look around. VV at least interacts with it's subscribers, asks their opinions, responds sometimes. They don't get it right a lot of the time, so we need to keep on top of them constantly. After all, we pay for the site. I know I am a very demanding person, not very patient and very critical at times. With people, like with everyone here, I am always respectful and tactful. People who give respect always deserve nothing but respect. However, businesses or services that you pay money to is something different. I have always been a consumer advocate type person so I believe in getting what we pay for. And the actors and actresses here on VV, I have nothing against any of them. I don't know any of them personally. But they are representing the service and are paid to keep us satisfied. If a business I deal with doesn't do good customer service or provide the service I paid for, I let them know even though I may get angry with a person who just represents the business. I do try to tell them I know they are just doing their jobs and that they don't make the decisions. In much the same way, if Natasha doesn't want to be at all intimate with Akira, I may be angry at her seemingly. In fact, I am really mad at VV for keeping a girl who is not compatible with Akira and too immature to handle the demands of a sex voyeur site. So, that is my problem. I want more than I am getting at times here, but there may not be a better alternative. So I guess my choice is to tell VV how I feel often, watch to see what changes, and then either deal with it or leave it for another alternative site or leave voyeur altogether. I think voyeur is filling a need in me now so I am probably not leaving voyeur altogether. So for now, i think I need to try to affect change wherever possible here and see what happens. If I am not satisfied, I will need to find something else. Right now, I will set myself a deadline. So shorty after the 1st if Christy has not come back and I am not satisfied, I am going to try to find something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Tallguy, I really like you. You have been a very respectful good person here. I also love Unsy, Cassy, sat11 and others. You are all good people. I agree with you about what you say. You and the people I mention help me relax a little (if that is possible, i am a very passionate, not relaxed person. I make a lot of jokes often to try to cut my tension a little. I hope some of my jokes are actually funny) and get me to focus on what is important here. You are all good anonymous friends. (Funny, isn't it, anonymous friends? I do not care, anonymous or not, a friend is a friend). I still subscribe to rlc and I have gone back to it a little, but other than the all girls apartment, nothing thrills me. The one thing I would miss the most if I leave VV is you people and our interactions. I hope I have succeeded at times in fostering some personal interaction between all of us. I don't look at my role here as just to complain or pass on info to people or get info. I also want to have human interactions with people even if anonymous! Anyway, thanks to all of you for your interactions with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsichtbarer Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I hear you, friend. Thanks for the kind words :) I hope you will stay here. Loosing you would be the same as loosing Christy on vv, it would be a disaster! I don't post at the moment and I don't watch vv, because of the lost of Christy and because I celebrate christmas with my family and friends. But I look to the forum whenever I wake up and I still read and enjoy your posts. So keep them coming! :) Based on the comments here, it seems like that I didn't miss much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallguy74 Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 mr1010.. I enjoy our chats and rants here. I love voyeurism/ cam sites. im not able to pay. so I don't get the full effect of the apartments. the only apartments on rlc I like are... nelly/bogden.. dasha/demid... zoya/lev. I did love the girls app, k&k were hot. vv needs to add more free cams in voro, tver has more cams than voro. plus they need better angles in voro. 2 free views in voro are not good. vv also should offer free weekends or do specials for non payers, to draw them in. this is only my opinion. I did pay last month, saw some decent action, but now things are not worth signing up again. im greatful for those who post pics and keep us informed if any good things happen. I really hope that vv changes things next year, keep things fresh and worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Thanks a lot Unsy. Glad to hear you are having some good family time for Christmas. It isn't my holiday, I already had mine, but I know lots of people who do celebrate Christmas here in the US. In fact my married daughter's husband's family are a mixed family, catholic and jewish. Great people. I hardly think of them as in-laws. We are even facebook friends. My son-in-law is an absolutely great guy! I think of him as another son. I have 2 twin sons besides, both 19. One wants to be an actor, the other a politician! They couldn't be more different. My daughter is an e-commerce digital person working for the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC. My son-in-law works for the Long Island Railroad and is also a musician in a heavy metal band. My wife is a criminal defense attorney. I am an attorney, right now retired, but looking to volunteer for my city councilman. I have a great life, but really enjoy the comraderie and friendship here on camcaps. I don't want to leave, but we will see. I would really miss all of you. maybe if I get busier if I get the volunteer job advising his constituents and helping them with legal matters, I will calm down a bit and put this site in perspective better. Then, I could stay here but without being so deeply entangled with it. But, I will keep you informed of my decision here before I decide. Oh and listen, Unsy, if you ever come to NYC, I would love to meet you and show you the city! I would also do that with any of others of you if you ever come to New york. You know the world would be a much better place if only peoples from different cultures, countries, religions, etc. would talk and meet each other and understand and appreciate each other. I am a very open and friendly person who would love to make my little impact on the world, person by person. Anonymous is better than no contact! I generally trust people, am not afraid to open myself up to people who are the same. We would all be better off if everyone did that even sometimes!I like to call it, pay it forward. If you do good deeds for someone and they do it for the next person and so on, the world would be better. I have confidence in myself, am not naive, and so i am not afraid to do this. I hope others can also take a pledge to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Tallguy, I agree with you about the rlc apartments you like. The girls' apartment isn't too bad now. Best since K & K. I absolutely loved those girls. I think there were more pages on camcaps for them than any others ever! When they left, a little bit inside us died too. We all hoped the girls would romantically stay together in Moscow, but that was not meant to be. It reminded me of when Dizi and Phil left VV. And if Christy leaves. But VV is changing and not for the better. It isn't a simple one thing that is wrong. There is no stability in Voro. People don't get to know each other, become friendly. I think that those three weeks or so when Dizi and Phil left, when Sonia went to Ivo (although I really like her now), and then the craziness of Messa, Nastya and Messa killed off the good Voro. Symbolically, when Nastya tried to kill Christy, it effectively "killed " off Voro. VV no longer trusted the spontaneous, let them match up model for Voro. So they instead turned to porn stars and miscellaneous people. They scripted even more. Maybe a site like this is not truly workable. Maybe it ends up either scripted or spaghetti thrown against the wall or porn stars, instead of attempts to try to get a good team together like they have in Tver. The Ivo, petra, Sonia, Akira and Charlie team was really good, but I don't think Charlie could cope with it anymore. Akira is not the best boyfriend honestly. Natasha and Akira have no chemistry and I don't think Natasha is mature enough for VV. Ironically, Julia and Gavin were not that bad, but their attention was always divided with their other jobs and they are just too busy. I think the whole future of VV may come to a head in the next couple of weeks. Will Christy come back with Ivo's friend.? Will Natasha grow up and mesh with Akira? Who else can they get that will like this job? many who come fail to make it. We will see soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Was able to see into new people's room, shelves are empty, so they won't be back. VV won't tell us this of course, trying to save face for anther fail. Meanwhile only ones left in Voro, Natasha and Akira won't have sex at all. Natasha used a sheet last night to keep Akira away from her crotch. I remember now from J & G's last night that Natasha was venting to them about Akira and was upset at him. Then julia talked to Akira a bit. This all happened after the night they had their fake sex. I think she wanted to do a dry hump of Akira and nothing more, but he really wanted to do more, tried to pull down her panties. But as a gentlemen he stopped there. The part that was the fake rape was Akira hamming it up for the cameras. So, we can see that natasha stops any action not Akira or his cold. BTW, these colds going around VV seem to mostly last 24 hours. How can this virgin like behavior by a porn star be acceptable to VV long term? What is wrong with her? Having sex would be good for her position there (she understands the requirements of a job, witness her porn shoots), the subscribers would be happy, and she already had sex with Akira once before. So what is the issue? Akira has not tried to force himself on her, in fact she broke up his relationship with Charlie. If I was him, I'd be pretty pissed at her. Imagine, she has sex with him, breaks up his relationship, then later won't have sex with him? Huh? She needs to grow up! Surely this is not a hard job to do compared to her porn shoots which are very demanding. She doesn't even need to like Akira that much, just be sexually compatible. What VV needs to do is to bring a party to Voro and get natasha to have sex or give a blow job to Akira again. That would break the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Was able to see into new people's room, shelves are empty, so they won't be back. VV won't tell us this of course, trying to save face for anther fail. Meanwhile only ones left in Voro, Natasha and Akira won't have sex at all. Natasha used a sheet last night to keep Akira away from her crotch. I remember now from J & G's last night that Natasha was venting to them about Akira and was upset at him. Then julia talked to Akira a bit. This all happened after the night they had their fake sex. I think she wanted to do a dry hump of Akira and nothing more, but he really wanted to do more, tried to pull down her panties. But as a gentlemen he stopped there. The part that was the fake rape was Akira hamming it up for the cameras. So, we can see that natasha stops any action not Akira or his cold. BTW, these colds going around VV seem to mostly last 24 hours. How can this virgin like behavior by a porn star be acceptable to VV long term? What is wrong with her? Having sex would be good for her position there (she understands the requirements of a job, witness her porn shoots), the subscribers would be happy, and she already had sex with Akira once before. So what is the issue? Akira has not tried to force himself on her, in fact she broke up his relationship with Charlie. If I was him, I'd be pretty pissed at her. Imagine, she has sex with him, breaks up his relationship, then later won't have sex with him? Huh? She needs to grow up! Surely this is not a hard job to do compared to her porn shoots which are very demanding. She doesn't even need to like Akira that much, just be sexually compatible. What VV needs to do is to bring a party to Voro and get natasha to have sex or give a blow job to Akira again. That would break the ice. what it means porn star? For me she is just a young girl ok? Maybe she is in that industry but first of all ask why. do not demand from her to fuck everybody around. If she doesn't want to be closer to Akira he has to accept that . Of course its a show but we can't force young people to do things they don't want to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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