Timewarp Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I have to say that I hope it doesn't turn into a porn site. I would hope that there would not simply be sexual activity predictably every single night and whining if there isn't. On the other topic floating around here today. I agree that we all develop a bit of a narrative regarding the people as we go along. The narrative has to be believable, however. We cannot simply speculate about something one minute and then claim it as fact going forward. That actually damages the narrative because some know that it may not be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I never said anything was fact or true. As a lawyer it would be stupid to posit something as fact when it is not proven. No one here, however knows anything to be true or not true unless they work for VV. Even knowing Russian does not put us inside VV headquarters! Now, maybe Snaky works for VV so he would know. Anyone else work for VV? But theorizing is the spice of life. It is using our brains to put forward theories using reasoning. Lawyers often do this in opening statements. I guess from now on I should a disclaimer after all my posts, "this post involves only a theory and should not be viewed as a statement of fact by the poster"! I am just strong with what I say. That is another habit of lawyers. We argue every single freaking point, lol! I will agree with you, timewarp, let's not make it a porn site. I pledge not to "whine" or complain every time I don't see predictable sex henceforth. Okay????? And Slapjack, good question. Will we still pay? Let's see what happens with the new people. And Mr. Box, that is my point exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I can't see any philosophical dissertations anymore. Something happened that it is so quiet? someone has a new ideas, subjects? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werewolf Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Thank you Site would have been better to do this a long time ago Empty apartment Dumbest site of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 How much will VV make if there isn't any sex? Will you people still buy into the project? As I have stated in the past, I watch and find VV more interesting than RLC more so because of the interactions between people who are just meeting and dealing with each other and the "project" for the first time. Obviously because of the frailty of the situation, one should be inclined to expect that sex will NOT happen every single night. You can't expect to throw 4 random people together and have them just jumping on each other every waking moment. But just because they (VV) put them all together, I also find it wrong to believe that they are just told to have sex for the sake of living in the house. Having said that, I'm obviously not going to pretend that I don't enjoy seeing them have sex, and when you have 4 potentially uninhibited people living together (especially with the addition of alcohol), you also can't expect sex not to be involved. At the end of the day, it's the possibility and the anticipation of whether two people will fuck that draws me in, sometimes even more so than the actual sex itself. Think about how interested everyone was when Phil Tanya and Dizi was there and were all drinking together. The speculation of whether or not Phil was going to hook up with any of the girls is what had people glued to the screen. Same thing with when Christy used to flirt with Messa while he was still with Nastya. Sonia and Ivo fuck almost everyday and sometimes even multiple times a day, but there's nothing "interesting" there: no intrigue, nothing exciting. Just another couple like on RLC. And again I say this, but it's the reason why I don't even watch RLC; nothing really interesting with any of the couples, even with Masha and Sasha who probably have more sex than everyone in RLC combined. I don't even like watching girl-on-girl action but even I found myself tuned into Irma and Anna the night of New Years because the whole "will they or won't they" aspect, although I'm only 90% certain they won't which is actually down from the 100% certainty I had knowing Kamila and Kristy would never hook up. So to answer your question, sex obviously is always going to be a factor in VV but that's not why I'm remain interested. I will always continue to "buy" into the project as long as they keep couples out and focus on keeping it at bringing singles in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewarp Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Snaky, do you work for VV? Because you just made the biggest, most naive defense of a company I have ever seen. You are unbelievably naive. Phil was booted because he wouldn't have sex with Christy or other girls, he didn't commit violence. Dizi left for suspicious "health reasons" and after she wouldn't have sex with a succession of guys. I didn't mention Nastya because she committed violence as did Largo as did the belly dancer girl. Tanya was forced out because she wanted sex with Akira and VV didn't want her muddying the waters with Charlie. Messa did lock out Christy that night. But did you forget how Petra did an intervention with Christy and Messa to solve their sexual issues? And how that was why Christy basically froze him out? What about Akira? While he may have left himself, there was obviously pressure on him to have sex with Nikky. And Akira was encouraged and pushed by his "friends" in Tver to have sex with Nikky that first night. Why do you think Tver people push sex on people? (Akira, Messa) It is because VV has made it clear to Petra and others there that you need to do it to survive in VV long term. What about Ivo with the dog lady? They brought her in, basically told Ivo to have sex with her. When Ivo couldn't get it up with her, she was gone. Petra basically runs the show in VV. She speaks to VV people and often has the games organized and ready to go. You think there is no scripted stuff in VV?? Have you seen Tver over the last 3 months? You know I'd almost think you were tongue in cheek with this whole naive VV can do no wrong thing, but my sense of you is that you are always serious, always negative. I doubt you could even make a joke or be light hearted. If you don't think they ever script things or encourage sex or get rid of people when there are sexual issues or incompatibility, you are sadly mistaken. Or at least, get a job working for VV. Or maybe you do, lol! Look, I swear to you that I am not trying to be a pain in the butt but I wonder sometimes if you even realize some things. How could anyone interpret this recent post of yours as anything but you claiming your "theories" as fact? I am seriously confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I never said anything was fact or true...But theorizing is the spice of life. But what you did WASN'T theorizing.... Phil was booted because he wouldn't have sex with Christy or other girls...Tanya was forced out because she wanted sex with Akira and VV didn't want her muddying the waters with Charlie...While he may have left himself, there was obviously pressure on him to have sex with Nikky. And Akira was encouraged and pushed by his "friends" in Tver to have sex with Nikky that first night...What about Ivo with the dog lady? They brought her in, basically told Ivo to have sex with her. When Ivo couldn't get it up with her, she was gone. Petra basically runs the show in VV. Everything in bold was a proclamation of what you believe to be fact. Again, even if you want to believe it, that's fine. However, this is not theorizing. You're making statements as if you 100% know this to be the truth. And while I don't know the situation behind Phil or Tanya, your statement about Akira is dead wrong. There was no pressure from anyone for him to do anything with Nikky that night, unless you know Russian and know for certain what was said. Nikky was the aggressor towards him; she was the one that pulled his pants down and sucked his dick in the living room; and only after Julia and Gavin went to the bathroom to fuck and Petra and Christy were fucking in her bedroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavurkel Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I ended my membership. Now await developments. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 OK, guys. I may have said it too authoritatively, but I didn't mean to put it forward as fact. If people took it that way, I am sorry I misled you. As a lawyer, we tend to argue our points to death! I will try to state it differently from now on, maybe put in a disclaimer at the end of my posts! And timewarp, thank you for using tack and respect when you don't agree with me. I do appreciate that! And maybe I did not realize how it came across. I tend to write how I would talk but worse. When you talk directly to someone you have more of a filter before things come out of your mouth. When I write, I may sometimes forget the filter. it is almost too easy to say angry, provocative things when you write. Especially when things are anonymous! Witness facebook and twitter! And miscvoyeur, don't think badly of me. I had no intent to mislead anyone. I just got a little carried away. Sometimes, I think I let snaky get under my skin a bit and argue too forcefully. He did start it with his post about the nature of VV which I didn't agree with. I shouldn't let myself get so easily provoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewarp Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Here, I will speculate a bit. I know that will put a smile on your face. I wonder if Akira is suffering from a broken heart. While I know he was sick the last time we saw him it really seemed like the air had gone out of him. He was not the same after Charlie left the picture. Maybe she found someone else at University. Perhaps someone who is actually making something of themselves and that made him jealous and sad. In my mind it simply got to be too much for him and he may or may not be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 And miscvoyeur, don't think badly of me. I don't think badly of you or anyone, including Snaky and I basically had to lay into him in the Tver thread. I only disagree with things you say but that's as far as it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavurkel Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 -Evelina,Natasha,Nikky genitals using too bad. -Age is too young. -30-40 years of age as woman. -Using very bad. -It's a pity. :'( :'( :'( :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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