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Two interesting points Mr. Bundy. The first point, "you can never go back", is one of the fundamental truths of life. It is very hard to recreate a vibe you had years ago. People move on, they change, and it never feels the same. That night Masha tried to have an orgy and none of the guys could get an erection, the desperation on Masha's face was kind of like "omg the old days are gone". You can't recreate real magic. The other point is "The participants would not be under their thumb like the Russian/Ukraine girls are" is interesting but I honestly don't know how true it is. Us Americans are brainwashed to believe everything is tightly controlled in Russia and there are no freedoms etc etc etc ... so while I think you may be on to something ... I just don't know exactly how that works. Clearly though, any multinational company struggles maintaining the quality and efficiency of their operations that are outside of their home country -- so this is a factor for sure.

Excellent rebuttal Ash!. I was kind of bought into the speculation that the Gina/Bruno visit to B4 was orchestrated by RLC but you provide a really good argument for why this is not how it works. Ultimately we will may never know. And realize there is a difference between ... "giving such instructions" with the whole conversation around these people have bosses, etc., etc. ... versus something casually suggested, even perhaps by Bogdan ... like "hey Gina you and Bruno should use the penthouse while the Twins are gone ... check with them I'm sure they'd be ok with this ... especially if you brought your own sheets ... " wink wink ... knowing that they have Cleo and what's-his-name fucking back in G&B's apartment. I mean these people understand the gig they are in and probably are keen on doing what helps their employer without even being "ordered to". I mean if internally they all felt RLC was going down the tubes ... some would bail and others would try to work harder. But your point Ash is well taken and well done. ADDITIONAL THOUGHT: This makes me wonder if there is internal rivalry between apartments. Obviously Gina/Bruno fucking anywhere on an RLC cam helps RLC and it doesn't really matter to RLC where they fuck. But if Bogdan or somebody felt B4 needs to "get a boost" so to speak, it would support a casually suggestion and/or invitation to visit the Penthouse. There does not seem to be much rivalry between apartments or between Barca vs Rome vs Prague. We have discussed individual rivalry like Radi mastering the art of being top cam.

Don't disagree with giving Nelly & Bogdan their own apartment ... but the "hetero monomagous couple" segment is well covered on RLC. What would be considered an upgrade if N&B replaced one of the other couples? Maybe Mira/Dante? I just can't see giving N&B their own apartment adding any more subscribers. They need some openly bi couples with the Masha vibe. That would drive up subs I think.

Oh no. I read this and thought it was DD. Always looking for something better tomorrow. Be strong Noldus. Stay in the present for us.

I'm not sure this adds much value to the villa or to the RLC product in general ... EXCEPT of course if Gina was to be openly bisexual and more like Masha. But as long as she remains committed to Bruno and only Bruno ... moving that Bruno/Gina dynamic around Barcelona adds no value. You could argue that having Bruno around the GOV girls creates excitement because he could bone them ... but we been there and done that ... and the value of this hinges on whether customers like all the fights Bruno and Gina have. This part of the dynamic works better when girls come into his apartment like when Stella and Bruno fucked or almost fucked. Of course then there is the age old question of Gina/Bruno in the villa WITH or WITHOUT Nelly/Bogs. But definitely if Gina had a bit of an attitude adjustment, you could put Gina and Bruno in the penthouse, get rid of Nelly and Bogs, bring in a lot of sexy girls ... and kind of create a Playboy mansion vibe where Bruno is kind of like a less classy Hugh Hefner. AGAIN, RLC would have to pay thousands for business advice such as this. Just come to CC and get it for free. Talk to your customers!

I am thinking your humble opinion is indeed correct. If you stop to think about the implications of all of this, it really does paint a picture of this being an elaborate "show". Yes of course, it is a show, and always has been a show ... but I do think RLC wants to portray "real life". It is their brand identity. But are they too dumb to realize if they give such instructions to Bruno and Gina, it destroys the idea of "real life"? This notion of "it's a show" vs "real life" has always been something that has to be balanced. But with this move to cover the Twin's vacation, it seems to push the pendulum more toward the "show" side, thus destroying the brand. Leave the penthouse open. I bet in real life, 99% of the people who own penthouses, leave them vacant when they go on holiday (hat tip to EU there). I suppose some couples in real life get invited along the lines of "hey we are going to be on vacation, if you want to use our penthouse villa to fuck, let us know". But really. This is all the more reason, to me, to question everything and only trust what we see on cam. I don't think we know much at all what happens off cam and how the interaction between RLC and the cast really works. Also: So where exactly are Nelly & Bodgan???

DD is the all-time God of Work / Life Integration. He's an X-Factor! 😆😙🤪😚😛

Does anyone know what they might have been talking about from about 10:30 AM for an hour to hour and a half? It seemed serious and intense; Fiora was clearly upset and at one point I think I noticed her crying. The grey-haired guy (is that a safe description that won't get me attacked?) seemed to comfort her as she was explaining her woes. I continue to wish we had some Russian translators. But in lieu of that, let's speculate. I don't think anyone commented on this scene and it lasted for quite long time. Perhaps I missed it. But I get the impression that most of us watch for sex and skim all the other parts ... yet those are the parts when you can learn a lot about the cast. Finally, as for whether this guy is handsome or not and so on ... at least for me, this discussion would be more useful once he drops his shorts and we see what he is packing.

Might there not be a touch of sarcasm there Nenemoh? 🙂 Well played.

Continue to love your optimisim and enthusiasm my friend. Isn't Harley like your 4th or 5th X-Factor? 🙂 If I had even more time to waste than I waste already here 🙂 ... I would do some research and find your other X-Factors. I seem to think Vivian was one, perhaps Nana ... you may have described Radi as an X-Factor when she has her breakout moment. To me, the only person I can label as an X-Factor was Tesla and Elian (omg have I forgotten her name). They truly hit B4 as an X-factor ... but of course they faded. Anyway ... keep looking up my friend. I do think this new B2 group could be different than the various death spirals we have seen recently.

I haven't seen it yet but perhaps I can make it the centerpiece of a late night bate. Blush, where did that come from? It is good to hear that their lovemaking is improving. Have we seen the final marks? That Russian judge can be a stickler. He once gave a 1/2 point deduction for failing to tease the left nipple ... ON ALBERTO! OK sorry ... I shouldn't be so flippant. Seriously, I agreed a long time ago with DD and others that a couple's lovemaking tends to become routine over time. That is to be expected. But strong loving couples tend to find ways to spice things up and every so often the urge to be "torrid" overcomes everything. That is fun to see and it is good news that Alberto and Martina the last couple of times have found this spark.

This is an excellent summary of the Martina and Alberto we see on cam. Well done Deep. If I was someone who gambles, I would bet that this is reality. Also let’s agree that this is likely what they want us to believe as well. But still there are unanswered questions and behaviors that don’t fit this narrative. Yes many of us have let our imaginations run wild but the point is we simply don’t know. I try hard to not go crazy with speculation and simply try to listen and learn and wait to learn more. It would be awesome if RLC could provide subtitles. Yes I came here to see sex but as I have mentioned in the past, I am wrapped up in the storyline.

I continue to wish we didn't have to attack each other so much. I think Philo pointed out a very interesting 2-3 hours of activity in Martina & Alberto's apartment this evening. He may be working too hard to fit what we have seen into a narrative; however, I think what he found was very interesting. What exactly were the 3 of them talking about in the kitchen for approximately 30 minutes? Where were they until nearly 2AM? More importantly, where did they go at 1:50PM for a couple more hours? I really want to believe Martina is devoted to Alberto and beyond Nelly she has no extra-curricular sexual activities; however, we continue to witness behaviors that challenge this notion. I forget who mentioned this, but they made a great point: We have seen what Martina has done at an all night fun fest with Nelly in B4 ... so it is very possible these all-nighters are happening more frequently and off-cam. No one has been able to explain these all night absences beyond "laying on the beach and watching the stars and the sunrise over the sea". Honestly, the only time I believe this happened was on or around Martina's birthday when Alberto went with her. When I read Philo's post, it comes off as highlighting a very interesting exchange. It did seem like Martina and the big guy were trying to convince a skeptical Alberto of something. He was being provocative; however, bottom line, he just wants to know what is going on. And to top it off ... you can finish this chapter by adding in the 5-10 minutes just recently where M and A are laying in the bed talking in a very serious and somber tone. Just remember that while the speculation that Martina is having tons of off-cam sex may seem crazy to you ... it is just a speculation. But let's be honest ... the notion that Martina is not having sex with that huge fat guy ... that is a speculation as well. On this one I side with Naga because if my Martina is doing that guy, that might send me over the cliff. But the point is we do not know. And we seek the truth here. Or we should at least try. One interesting side bar: My girlfriend @girlsfun speculates as wildly as anyone ... but it is it me, or does it seem like she doesn't get attacked for it so much? Sorry baby.

There is no need Moose. I was mostly being sarcastic. I will pay more attention when I start reading …

I respectfully request that Moose and/or Harley change up their avatars. I read this whole thing and while I was reading I was thinking "holy fuck, did Harley get laid or something because this actually makes sense and is compassionate and logical and there was no "we all know Martina and Bogdan are fucking" or anything like that. It wasn't until later when I realized my mistake and the author is our very own Moose. Ahhh ... the world is back to normal suddenly. I propose no more avatars feature animals with antlers. Still love you Harley. And Moose too.

OK maybe I am projecting a bit too. I like Alberto but he just doesn’t seem to be that awesome amazing man that I envision. It would be a big loss but I think there are a lot of guys who could fill his shoes. He’s not awesomely attractive, he doesn’t seem to have aspirations, his lovemaking is pedestrian mostly. I want a man who will be with me all the time, who makes me feel like the most beautiful woman on the planet, someone who will go on adventures with me (sexually and otherwise) … Yes these are dreams of course but I am trying to make the point that while Alberto is “safe” and “lovable” like a Teddy Bear … there are a of things a girl yearns for that he does not fulfill. Are you saying that for Martina, Alberto is the best it ever gets? I don’t think she feels that way … if she did … she would want to be with him more. So to repeat and summarize, if Alberto walked away, I think Martina would survive.

John ... maybe "open-minded" was the wrong choice of words because I was referring to her open sexual persona. Another way of saying it is that sexually, she seems to have few limits. Agree that Alberto is "open-minded" in terms of what he accepts from Martina. But we could look at this from the question of who is most likely to leave the other? If you had to pick between Alberto leaving Martina or Martina leaving Alberto ... where do you stand? The person who bails (to me at least) is the less open minded person. Being open minded to me implies tolerance and we agree that Alberto has a ton of tolerance. In this context, maybe you are right, Alberto is very open-minded. But somehow I am left feeling at some point he may tire of all of her behaviors.

Stan (the Man) you bring up a lot of good points. I won't quibble with any of them. DD speculated that Martina has "so much to lose" if she were to lose Alberto. It doesn't matter to me if we perceive him as "weak" or "special/rare". What I am questioning is what does Martina lose if he bails. I think it would be difficult for her but I think she will do just fine if he were to leave her. Yes he is sweet and special ... but knowing what temperature I like my gin is hardly that critical to me. Yes of course finding a man that allows her all her freedoms would be something she would "lose" ... but are we saying that Alberto is the ONLY MAN ON EARTH who would be like this? C'mon, if Alberto were to bail, the line at her door would start to form immediately!! I adore DD but I think he's projecting. He wants to believe she would "lose a lot" if Alberto bailed. I just don't see it. And I am probably projecting that Martina should dump him. I am not. They have a special bond and I want to see it work. But I won't be sad if he were to leave her. She will do just fine.

Do you really believe this? She is the one trying to better herself. She is the one who is compassionate and caring for others like her school friend who appears to be in an abusive relationship. She is the one who is very sexually open-minded and adventurous and insatiable. I honestly think she would do quite well without Alberto if Alberto were to leave her (but he won't). I do think she adores Alberto and he is one of her dearest friends. He occupies a space in her life that is important to her. But don't think she loses a lot if she lost him. It's hard to imagine this at all when she is out till 8AM having fun or doing whatever so many nights.

Recall the movie Airplane when the Lloyd Bridges character says over and over "I picked the wrong night to stop sniffing glue" etc., etc. I picked the wrong night to let my sub expire! Everyone should chill, I think a lot of what everyone thinks all has strong grains of truth. These two are very attracted to each other but I think Nelly (not Martina) wants more than "just be friends". I think Martina wants to honor her commitment to Bogdan but she is struggling with that. Whether or not they have had sex off-cam it doesn't matter too much except for the fact that the RLC viewers are getting screwed by missing it. And it's true too that making out in the bathroom is not much different than all out sex, as far as Boggy is concerned. Lastly, I would amend DD's post on what Bogdan should do. He should leave ONLY if he can't get a threesome. He either needs to embrace this or leave. But tomorrow, he will fuck Nelly, which will send all the wrong messages. Headed out tonight and since I can't keep an eye on this with my phone ... you guys are free of long posts from me! Enjoy ... please provide some play-by-play in your comments so I can catch up in the morning.

I saw some data on this several years ago, it was a bit fascinating. If I recall correctly, men and women equally enjoy hetero porn and lesbian porn; however, when it comes to gay male porn, the market is limited mostly to gay males. Don't quote me, I don't think the data was saying women watch/love porn in equal numbers as men ... but the percentage of "hetero versus lesbian" was quite similar between men population and women population. I think we have seen this here ... both men and women enjoy the hetero sex and the lesbian sex. But the key thing I remember about this data is that hetero men and both hetero and lesbian women ... do not care for male gay porn. I am assuming RLC has access to the same market data which is why we don't see Bogdan and Alberto sharing an apartment. Have we even seen a gay male scene? I think the crazy night with Babi and those two guys? As you can tell, I've already kinda blocked that out of my mind. ADDITION: Of course this is another one of my posts where I tee up the question that all the veterans can share all the guy/guy scenes that have happened before I joined.

You should have said "you naughty sarcastic voyeur lady" ... just in case it wasn't obvious!

Yes!!! More Alberto … that’s what I want to see. I hope he bates without blankets and gives us the best camera angles!!

Whoa. Are you trying to suggest that your sex life and love life is like Masha's? Is that a speculation or is there evidence on cam 🙂?? You did say "more" or "less" ... which is it? If your life truly is like Masha's ... don't write about it. That would definitely be a HUGELY LONG post.

What makes you so hopeless Mr. Bond?