MrBox

Your argument always comes down to the same result: "Stop viewing". :-\ ... I like a lot of the apartments in RLC and have decided to pay for it. ... That do not mean that i like all the developments and would not sometimes prefere other decision as they were made by RLC. ... I also like to discuss this and will not stop doing so, because you state the same recommendation endlessly. ... You need to have some arguments. Yes it is. At least to some extent. ... And why should i not be a bit selfish? ??? After all, I pay to see "Real Life" for fun and not as a charity. :) ... What is your opinion in replacing half of the apartments with homeless guys? ... Do you like the idea? ... Hmm. Maybe not? ??? ... I think, You simply liked the show of Blue. ... That is ok and also a bit selfish, because you use here situation to your advantage. ... Please accept, that i do not like this development, because I prefere the "Real" over the "Porn". That is all. I do not consider her current situation, because i simply do not know anything for real. Do you know the story of the lemmings? ??? ... Just because one does it, do not mean that it is correct or good. ... And even hundreds doing the same do not change anything about it. ... It could still be wrong. As you mentioned before, i am a bit selfish in this point but i do not intent to punish the residents or the viewers. I'm not a judge and do not need to make a decision. I just would like to see them replaced. That is all. BTW, this is also how the world works. As i mentioned before, this is always your recommendation without giving any real argument to support it. ... If you have some real arguements, now, it is time to write them down so that we can have a serious discussion. ... I'm looking forward to it. :)

I really agree with this idea, but i am very sure that there are some agreements between the residents and RLC. Otherwise it would probably not work, because the residents could limit themselves like C&J and still keep the apartments. ... Ultimately, "Reality" in a project like RLC also means to overcome the shyness and to try to life as good as posible like in an apartment without cameras (even if there are present 24/7 and in almost every room). I agree. This is not the case any more, because she started to get in contact with the viewers. Some of us ask her to move the chair so that the RLC cam had a better view. :doh: ... That should not be posible in RLC. ... She should also not had moved the chair to block the view of the camera in the first place. :-\ ... Both are negative developments, because there are not real (as in an apartment without cameras). BTW, I will not comment her life circumstances. But a little thought, I have after all: I have nothing against the decision. But no one should needto sell his body, because of money issues and i am pretty sure that it is not necessary in europa to do so. Usually there is everywhere a sufficient social network established. I think they should close this apartment, because it is not real any more and it was also not fun to watch anyway. Please do not tell me, that the residents are not meant to be entertaining. I know this and still prefer apartment that are exciting (while and because they are real) as N&B and H&S. Ultimately, RLC needs both. Nice and good looking residents and their participation to the idea.

Do you know VV? ??? They had also a very nice viewer bost as they started to have this porn shows there. ... Just have a short look. ... All very quiet there now. :) I do not attack anyone and just write my opinion. This should be possible in a forum, isnt it? ??? ... Why there is never a post complaining about an accumulation of unneeded positiv comments? ??? ... Not everything on RLC is fine and a negative development (like the non real apartments) should be allowed to discuss.

I would like to see new apartments, too. ... Maybe this time they could add normal ones with nice people, like N&B or S&H. ... That would be fun. :) .... But this apartment is nonsensical now. ... Porn production on RLC. :-\ ... Too bad. ... And considering that the newly born porn actor was the only interresing person living in this apartment, there is no reason to keep it running. ... Sorry. ... Better a quick end as to allow a secound Tver (or should i say third, counting Voro too) in RLC. :( Unbelievable. ... ??? ... Really stupid. ... But as long as it is not my money. ... I only dislike that RLC has now a third non real apartment. ... No idea where this journey will lead.

775 token = ~ € 155. :screwy: ... It is not possible to understand that, for me. Sorry. That's just stupid, i think. My goodness, RLC is on a very bad path now. :-\ ... I really hope they will stop this porn production soon. ... The best would be to take this whole apartment offline, i think. :dwarf:

:wtf: jpierre2121 spend (425 Tokens) --> ~85€ :screwy: ... Whey the hell did someone spend so much money to a show? ??? ... Especially when it is so poorly done. :lmao:

Why all of you think that she masturbated for real and not only pretended doing so. Did you all not notice that all these covered masturbation shows in the girls apartment (and the very few here) follow the same schema (very short, no acceleration to the end, ridiculous movements as orgasm to ensure that everyone of the viewers recognizes). To me, all this seams way out of the normal masturbation pattern. If they really do not want to be seen, they would do in quite, ensure that they turned away from the cameras or even do it somewere of the cameras. They want to be seen in doing something but do not want to show what it is. The simplest explanation is that they are all just pretent to masturbate (to have some kind of show) and need to cover it up so that no one see the obvious for real. ... This is a teasing apartment with real life elements that is not compareable to the normal couple apartments. All the couples needed to overcome there shyness. They are comitted to the project and make the whole thing valuable. The girls are fun to watch, that is sure, but be to be honest, they work just with the imagination of the viewers. I strongly suspect that Kamilla and BF had sex already. They are able to speend time together (because the are not located in different areas) so it would be normal to have sex. It is not real to limit the sex to the apartment of the BF (due to the cameras in this apartment). ... It need to be that simple, because if real means to behave like with the cameras, all the couples would not do anything close to sex or nudity. ... They all needed to overcome there self limitation. ... Also the girls did this to a very limited part by showing nudity in front of the cameras. ... That it is. ... They are limited to a very few selected parts of there "Real Life" and will most probably do not change this because it seams to be there agreement with RLC. ... It is a teasing apartment.

I did not saw this "event" and i do not want to see it, too. :-\ ... Honestly, I am convinced that she will never masturbate in front of the cameras (not above and also not under the blanket). :( ... So, This was most likely a faked one. :-\ What happened to this place? ??? ... This apartment was fun (at least from time to time). ... Now it is not fun (expect the few weeks with Irma and Anna) and completely without sex. ... The curent girls are either out, asleep or doing there nude teasing work hours. :no: ... No real life. No show. Just boring time and a 24/7 TV running. :doh: Meanwhile, I hope not even more that new girls will bring improvement. :-\ ... Based on the duration of the free spot and the current cast, I suspect that the RLC make this apartment more and more boring on purpose to reduce the disappointment for an already planned shutdown. ??? ...... And what should i say? ... It works. ... This apartment is ready to be closed. :'( Why did they not provide this apartment (or a other one) to Nora for real. ... Now they have this all teasing only people there, for what? ... A real shame.

Maybe porn should be a limit and the influence by the viewers (like the one you get if you pay her to do a show). ... But, I had all this discussion already (about VV). ... It is like a fireworks. A good show that will end fast. ... If she continue to have this daily event, it will just take a week (maybe two) and you might understand what i mean. ... Now it seams just to exciting.

It could also be that they just lost a bit more reality. ... We have now nude only apartments and start to see some porn. ... Clear. All this can be interpreted as diversity, but diversity do not automatically means improvement. ... And again. ... Just consider VV and see how different they are in comparison to RLC. I think, It is a very bad idea to have a direct feedback from the viewers to the residents. Especially, if money is used to create an influence. ... That is exactly the opposite of what i hope to see on RLC.

If this is the case, but maybe she just use her popularity in RLC to make some (or a lot of) extra money. ... Latest when other start to do eqal, the fun will be over soon. ... Please, just consider VV and you will see what i mean. :-\ BTW, she is still a nice girl. ... I simply do not like this RLC to CAM4 connection.

That is my point. ... We should not talk to the residents, because it kill the reality, i think. ... If everyone speak to them, RLC would be just a new version of CAM4. ... "Please do this", "Please do that" and this will make the residents to dolls who perform shows for the viewers and do not have there life there any more. Just consider VV and see what kind of content they offer. Petra started it and now .... :( .... i hope this will not happen to RLC. Why the people always use this argument? ??? ... I have paid for all apartments as RLC and not as a CAM4 clone. I appreciate that. :) I like honest and open discussions. :yes:

Blocking the cams will you make happy? ??? ... CAM4 is real life? ??? ... I think, it is porn. Do you not see the similarity to VV? ... Everyone was happy to see tham having so many sex and do it all the time and everywere. ... It was not real, but the people liked it a lot. ... Just have a look now. ... VV is almost dead. ... There is no "real" there any more.

No argument? ??? Blocking the camera is not an argument? ??? ... Me at least upset that. I do not like it. ... I have paid for real life. ... This shows create a connection between viewers and residents that should not be there and destroys the "Real". ... It is a bad development, because it is simply the same as in VV. ... :( ... It is porn, now.

:wtf: I see this action very negative. ... Residents start to do shows for money. :-\ ... It is like to ask for money twice. ... Do I pay for real life or for Cam4 shows?!? ??? ... RLC start to goes the same way as VV :( In addition it seams that she deliberately blocked the view in RLC. ... Very bad development. :(

Because there is no sense in stating the obvious (= "This apartment is filled with the most beautiful girls ever in RLC and they also happen to have a very nice personality" again and again. I like to discuss the things that are not immediately obvious, because there are normaly different opinions. This trip will not be convenient at all. :( ... What question did I miss?

That happen for me with the apartment of M&S. They have way to much sex for my taste. :) ... But there are still very nice people. I think, this project is not about sex. ... It is about the real life and wich normaly include sex as a part. ... If people decide not to have sex in front of the cameras (even if they have sex somewere else) it is similar to avoid to be seen naked (like C&J). ... For me, it is simply a different level of participation into the project. ... That do not make this apartment boring or useless.

Tomorrow I can not, unfortunately, am on a week long business trip. Probably a big disappointment for you, as you are missing a very safe bet. ;) ... But i will be back. :) Do you think all the other apartments are filled with porn actors? ??? ...I do not. :) ...... And why are you always thinking that I have no fun watching this apartment? ??? It is good as it is. But it might just be better if they would also have sex there. ;) I thought, I contributed a new perspective. Is it not remarkable that after Nora is gone, we have now two apartments without any sex or at least a realistic probability for it. I like it that you are are representing your opinion with such a commitment. ... But I think that I rate the whole thing quite neutal. ... I is still just a opinion. ... Nothing to get angry about. :) ... I would like if you would have a real discussion rather than insulting me. ... That would be nice. :)

I do not (any more) and need to admit that i am disappointed. :-\ ... The more I think about it, the less I like the idea of apartments that work similar to the normal ones but seams to be limited to nude only. Not a year ago there was no apartment where it was almost not imaginable to see real and open sex (considering Nora and some other girls in the Barcelona). Now we have two apartment where it is much more likely that nothing will happen at all (neglecting all this under cover movement which so many here takes for real ). ... With all the problems RLC has in recent times with new real apartments, this development appears negativ to me. :(

I liked Nora and Kiko. :)

The same on my side. :) ... I did not expexted that. Very nice.

I would never do something like that. Rules are needed in some cases (e.g. the forum rules; http://camcaps.net/index.php?topic=6712.0) and are normaly enfored (e.g. like by the moderators in this forum). ... I only state my opinion and discuss them with others. Sure i would like to convince others of my opinion but i do not enforce them to do so. RLC can decide who they provide the the apartments to. I think, they need to find the right (as they were able to do in the past some times) people, if they want to keep (not make!) the page interesting. ... RLC is not perfect and will never be. ... I am not perfect and will never be. ... I just post my opinion. That is all. :)

This is wrong and has often been disproved in RLC (just consider M&S, S&H and N&B as current examples; they had sex nearly from the beginning). Clear the residents have to overcome there shyness, but this should be clear to every one who decides to live in an apartment with cameras. ... Based on apartments like C&J (who has hidden from the cameras and got kicked) we can pretty much be sure that there is a minimum participation requierment that the residents need to fulfill, if they want to continue to be a part of the project. ... Anything else would be downright stupid. You posted the FAQ. You can not post the rules (as there are most likely given in the contracts), because you do not know them. ... You basicaly make up your own interpretations of RLC and ask us to follow them, by stating them as rules. :doh: ... Which is especially remarkable, because you neglect the only rule RLC has a right to enforce to us by violating their copyright ("Video has an additional hidden watermark with user ID. Recording, distribution or publication are strictly prohibited."; given on the RLC page). My goodness. Why you need to constantly gripe, if other people state there opinion? ??? It is completely normal to have different opinions. That is what makes it interressing to contribute to discussions. ... You should really stop to insult the people who do not share your opinion. Please. That would make the discussion much more fun. :)

I did not express myself well. :-\ Sorry, english is not my main language. ... I mean working as in "this apartment works for me" = "fun to watch; nice people; and so on". :)

Maybe, I agree to your statment. ... We need to clarify what "real" really means. In terms of RLC i asume "real" to be as close to a situation with an apartment without camera as posible. ... That would result in an improvement, if the residents do not act camera shy, because it would work more real. ... "Real" could also mean that it is "real" as in the real world. That would result in more apartments like C&J (what i do not liked), because they were simply shy (and that is a really normal behavior and therefore at real at it could be). ... In combination this could mean that i accepted less reality if it results is more reality. ;)