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I cannot understand why some people so are intent on trying to re-write history by denying historical facts that many of us witnessed and can still recall. Nelly was with other women in Russia, long before Martina was ever on RLC. The only thing that has changed is that Bogdan no longer reveals himself on camera like he revealed himself when he got his friend Efrim drunk and spent the night with his wife Annabelle on the balcony at their apartment in Russia.

I'm hearing nothing but crickets so I think it's time to move on. Peace Out.

If I "invented" something that is not true, then, by definition it is a LIE.

There is no such thing as "inventing the fact". Facts cannot be invented. You are starting to sound like you need some help.

I'm waiting on the quote of what I invented?

I see again that you are unable to support your claim. What did I INVENT?

@nagachilli2So why don't you tell the readers what it is that I "INVENT"(ed)?

How right you are. I'm not overly impressed with translations from someone with a bias.

It is the same friend who use to rub her thighs, snuggle her neck and bite her hair when Alberto was away.

I have no doubt that Martina has the biggest balls of anyone on RLC. The fact that she and her male friend go out together again at 1:50am means that she must think that whatever she told Alberto was convincing.

So wife and male friend come home to your house at 1:15 in the morning. You are not at home. She comes in with a wine glass in her hand and goes to the bathroom. She and her friend are in the kitchen when you come in. The wife begins to explain something to you but you lean back on the counter and listen with your arms crossed. The male friend starts sweating profusely and tries to chime in from time to time to support the story that the wife is telling you. You seem unconvinced. All I need now is the translation...not the interpretation but the translation. LOL

Martina gone shopping at about 02:10.

Does someone need a laxative for the two to be off camera in the bathroom for so long? LOL

Thank you for ending your discussion with me. Actually, I never commented on any of your posts and you were not one of my intended invitees to my posts. Revisionism will not work here. I have maintained my contention from the beginning, even without the kissing in the bathroom. Now, when the evidence is irrefutable that the relationship is continuing to some extent that violates the earlier arguments, it is easy now to agree and to pretend that it was understood all along.

Although we may not ever see Nelly and Martina have sex on camera again, I contend that kissing on camera in the bathroom is a signal from them to the viewers that nothing has changed between them.

Does making out in the bathroom support my argument or yours?

So this thread is divided between those who believe that the Martina and Nelly relationship has ended because Bogdan said so...and those who don't.

We all may have played the game where someone whispers a statement into the ears of the person next to them and that person, in turn, passes the statement on until it has come back full circle to the originator. If you think the results of that parlor game are revealing, try playing that game with an interpreter in the middle. A translator uses quotations.

I don't recall that RLC has ever dared to show any MM sexual activity in any of the apartments. They came close twice. Once was when Carla's mate made out with a male guest and the other was when a male guest touched Sasha's package with his foot for several minutes during a party at Masha's. They did have a woman who penetrated her male partner with a dildo but I cannot recall their names as they were not a prime time apartment.

My theory has plenty of evidence to support it. All I'm asking is that those with the counter theory present some evidence to support theirs. It is not enough just to claim that they know what Bogdan's wishes are. What is the evidence? When did they have this conversation with Bogdan to know this? More and more we see one liner statements without providing any evidence what so ever. What is to distinguish these one line proclamation from the rantings of the balding 400 pound keyboard commando? From those who are attempting to engage in a serious discussion or debate, much more is required.

Even Alberto respected Nelly and Martina's relationship enough to have closed the kitchen window to afford them their privacy while on the balcony.

It is so sad that Martina and Nelly are now restricted to an off camera relationship. I know that there are some who contend that they are now "just friends". However, I contend that they still have both a romantic and a sexual relationship. I will continue to contend that as long as I still see evidence that supports my theory. My latest evidence is the fact that Martina's shorts were all buttoned up when they first went to the balcony for drinks. Then later, Alberto came home and they came back inside to refresh for a second round of drinks. At that time it seems that the top button on Martina's shorts were unbuttoned. This can be seen clearly on camera #4 at 23:23:00. Before Martina and Nelly went back out with their second round of drinks, Martina went to the bathroom and re-buttoned her shorts before she came out. I realize that this evidence is not decisive but it is certainly more evidence than the has been presented by any of the people who are promoting the "just friends" theory.

I am not interested in the opinions of the bean counters who decide viewership royalty based upon the relative positions in the thumbnails. I prefer to consider the quality of the offering in my assessment. I have been watching long enough to realize that many people watch their favorite apartment even when there is no one at home so the quantitative analysis leaves me wanting more. (A brief observation of Leora's apartment will validate this point.) If the success of Gina's apartment is based upon how many viewers are watching her jump up and down for hours at a time, then I will concede that she has cornered the market and is the heir apparent.

"They" are the people who write the scripts for the apartments. "They" determine which actor goes to what apartment. "They" decide when there is to be a party and whom is to come and whom is not to come. "They" decide what costumes are to be worn and what music is to be played. And more importantly, "they" decide whom should come on to cam caps to push their line of bullshit so that everyone gets on board in line with the script. "They" also decide whose post should be attacked so that on-lookers are not tempted to use their own brains. God forbid subscribers should decide whether or not to believe their own eyes.

There is only one remaining marketing strategy that can save the Gina/Bruno apartment. It can only be the implied question of how many of Gina's friends will Bruno fuck.