One thing for sure doing the things outside and not in cams gives this two and all others zero profits,nothing to see,no views.Think they starting good and gone lower as day passed,it started with the two usualy in house and together having relatively nice sex for nice time to making turns to stay in,cams covered,duds giving middle finger,underblankets crap,cards games,5min sex,brunch and more brunch.As an user sayed prior(not sure who)they gone from great to below average.