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Yes, Totally needless. But it is a whole lot of FUN.

Absolutely correct in my opinion. They have a contract and RLC will honour that contract. There is something I'm missing here. Why do they tolerate the presence of DE? That question perplexes me considerably. IS Doe Eyes FREELOADING? What if they have a money pot, that each month. they all put in the same amount to pay for their running expenses, food and drink. What if it is Kira that has to put in the lions share, enough to cover Nina's part, which is why she has to work so hard. OR worse, what if it is DE that puts in the biggest amount, which is why Kira resents her so much. Speculation maybe, but it sort of fits. As I say, I'm missing something here. This calls for some serious research, I'm going to have to look through ALL my past posts. I may be gone a long time...

02:15 their time. Nina is trying really, really hard to appease Kira. They need to sort this out once and for all. My advice, which they probably will not take, is to ask DE to leave. Damn it if I could find a way of doing it, I would even pay for DE to spend a few days in a cheap Hotel, away from the girls. To give them space to breathe. To relax and talk through the problems that keep tearing them apart. The longer this goes on, the harder it will be for them to solve the problem. I love Kira to bits, but there is something that is standing in her way...

11:47. Sleeping Beauty X 2

Just checked back on replay. 00:44 their time and they are alone together and looking very happy indeed. Smiles and laughter, kisses and cuddles. exactly how it should be. Wonderful.

Hi Hayden. Do not be sorry for your English. Quite frankly, you are much more eloquent than most English people I know, and obviously I know a LOT. You are perfectly understood and quite right too. Sometimes I think it is me that is not understood. The same as Bigmac18. I certainly do not WISH to see them go, or to separate. Because Naturally, I am a little selfish and would miss them enormously. Though as I have said before maybe it would be better for THEM alone, to leave and have a much more NORMAL (insert your own version of normal here) life, without the pressures of the cameras. Yes! we spend far too much time criticising. When in fact we should be supporting them in whatever they do. Which is what I was trying to do, when the question of abuse came into the equation. Though it seems now, that I was quite inept at doing this. I was trying to defend them, not criticise them. So apologies to everyone if I was misunderstood. As stncld18 says above. They will probably not be going anywhere soon. I think they started in October, so assuming it is a one year rolling contract, then the earliest they would depart is probably September this year. So there we have it. A joyous 6 months to enjoy their antics. The trials and tribulations. The ups and downs. To see them grow and evolve. To support them in everything they do. I for one wish nothing but the best for them.

Of course I'm old, that is well known by now, I'm just a regular boring old fart. Yes there are different kinds of abuse, if Kira thought she was being abused she would leave, there is no doubt about that (she did leave once). She does not think so, so stays. In a reverted way Nina is being abused by Kira. She insists on taking care of her, even though on many occasions, Nina has tried to help with the housework. She has even cooked meals for them both. (for all we know, Nina may be a dreadful chef, and that is why Kira does most of the cooking). Kira herself prevents Nina from doing lots of things. For lots of reasons that we may not know about. So Kira does what she does, to satisfy her own needs. That is certainly not being abused. Everyone assumes that it is Nina who is going to find the fame. Yet Kira herself is very talented and creative. In her own field, something of a success. In some ways more creative than Nina, so Nina is also taking a risk in the relationship. Because one day Fame and Fortune could drop into Kira's lap. Then She could be the one dumping her wife. It's a risk every married couple takes. That one day external forces may push your relationship to the breaking point. Which has nothing to do with abuse. As for Kira looking happy. Yes of course she does, but only when they are alone together without DE being in the way. Then they look tremendously happy. DE is the cause of Kira and Nina not looking as happy as they should. Nothing to do with abuse.

Not necessarily so! I certainly did not mean that. Now let us not get in to this again. Nina and Kira have a very special relationship, that is why they are so interesting. Between them they have found a way to satisfy each others needs. Nina WANTS to be adored. Kira wants to adore her. That's it. Kira is not forced into doing anything, she looks after, and cares for Nina because she WANTS to. She enjoys playing "Mother". To some it looks unbalanced/lop-sided. To all of us, it looks precarious at times. In the end they manage to sort it out. So today once again Kira is off to work 09:40 their time. Leaving the sleeping beauty pair in their respective beds yet again. She was not pushed out of the door, nor was she whipped, nor was she threatened in any way to leave. She went to work because she has the strength and discipline to do so. She has the bigger picture in her mind. She is working to provide a future for them both. She is doing it to provide Nina with the luxury of time to be her creative best, which in the end she knows will benefit them both. It is the same the world over, it's what married couples do...

Oh dear! This old chestnut. Nina being lazy has been documented (many times) on past posts. There are many and varied reasons, all previously discussed at great length on here. The reading of past posts is the only way to go, without boring everyone again. To be honest, it looks like it has been a busy day for all three of them. So I am not surprised she is staring into her phone...

Yesterday Nina was dressed in sexy matching underwear, white pants and a blue top. Looking gorgeous as usual. Later when she returned home she was in different underwear and had fake tan all over her body (apart from the panties area). So I suspect she was out on a photoshoot somewhere. This is not unusual for her, she does this occasionally. She showered and then smothered her body in cream to clean off the last of the tan as best she could, before going off to bed. Nice

As I was saying about hair colour being unreliable. DE has now streaked the bottom two thirds of her hair blonde. No Idea when she did that. I think they do it on purpose just to fool us.

Nice to see that the Keyboard has returned from it's "Holiday". I suspect it went off for repair but did not see it actually go. On the subject of Holiday. I've noticed that both Nina and Kira have been exercising of late, Nina was on the bed doing "tummy flattening" exercises last night. I'm wondering if they have a beach holiday planned for the near future. Seems a little strange considering how much else is going on, but then we should expect the unexpected from the girls. Mean while the truce appears to be holding up. No more arguments at least for now.

Yep! to the best of my knowledge all the names you see on RLC apartments are fake names given to them or chosen by them as they join up. Real names are considered to be part of their private lives so should not be given out, same as any jobs they have or further interests outside of the apartments. In some cases they mention this themselves in their apartments which is why I suggested past posts. I know it's tedious, but that's how it's supposed to work. Alternatively like most everyone else has done here, requests like these are just ignored. like I say, the best way I can help is via a PM. I would have thought you would know this by now.

Yes! I am not sure when it was given, just before my time even. Though it is very fitting when you get to see her close-up. The bathroom cam 5 is the best for that. She also has a big tattoo in the middle of her back which is always a positive ID. Hair colour for the girls is not reliable as they can change it often, almost on a weekly basis in Nina's case. Her real name is... Well that is forbidden by the rules of CC, so cannot tell you direct. If you really want to know you will probably come across it in past posts. Good hunting. Alternatively it will have to be by PM. On condition it stays private. Simple really.

DE = Doe Eyes. She is the girl on the sofa with Nina right now 14:50 their time. Kira as usual is out at work.

Yes Nina takes a lot of pills. Kira makes sure she takes them and gets annoyed if she does not. The health problems of Nina are well documented in earlier posts. Some can be quite severe if she does not take her medication, like the collapse she had in the living room a few weeks ago. Poor blood supply is her underlying problem.

No doubting that whatsoever. When they are alone the laughter is greater and the smiles much broader. Which is why I was so surprised at the reaction of Kira last night. The main problem is and always will be the presence of DE. Whatever was said that caused such a bad reaction, is what I need/would like to know. The answer is out there, someone must have a translation for me surely. (I'm not bright enough to do it myself) It is better that we get the truth rather than speculation. So put it out on the open forum or PM me, and I'll figure out a way to release the information without compromising anyone. Now for a little further speculation. Or more controversially a way out for the girls from RLC. Go find yourselves your own apartment and leave Doe Eyes behind. She would then be able to keep a roof over her head without the expense. She could then move on with her own life, find someone to move in with her, and everyone will be happy. A minimum of disruption to RLC during the change-over (removing personal items etc). Maybe even get some repairs done, then back up and running with minimum fuss. Just an Idea!

In reply to both of the above posts. The 3some caused an immense amount of fallout between the girls. Lines were crossed and since then barriers have been placed to ensure it does not happen again. Part of that fallout was Kira going on Holiday without Nina, it was on September 16 2017. At the time I called it a "trial separation" because that is what it looked like to me, page 4 of that periods forum if you want to check it out. Things changed when Kira returned, Nina grew up and became a better woman. Sadly she has reverted somewhat back to how she was. It is well noted that Kira has possibly some serious mental issues. All in past posts folks, so will not bore you any more. So if Kira runs away again, rather than face her problems, I believe the hurt for both of them will run too deep. It may well go past the point of forgiveness. Just my opinion folks, shoot me down if you must!

Totally agree with you on this. Perhaps the cameras are not the biggest problem. But they are certainly a problem they could do without. Which is why I am saying what I am. By leaving RLC and most importantly DE, they can concentrate on each other. Learn to talk through their problems to a resolution, not just embark on yet another cease-fire or truce. The best place to do such things is at home, somewhere they both feel comfortable. Whilst under the scrutiny of the cameras it inhibits true and frank discussions in my opinion. It may even be sub-conscious to them both, even if they hide away, as they sometimes do, it is still an inhibition. By finding a home elsewhere they can be free, zero inhibitions, and say to each other what really matters. As I have said. I care deeply for them both, perhaps more for Kira whom I empathise with and adore. It is what is best for them that I say they should leave. It will be a very sad day for many of us here on CC. It is inevitable anyway. It's just that it needs to happen before Kira runs away again. Because if she does, I sincerely doubt that there will be a way back for her.

I do agree with Howard. Talk is cheap. It is easy enough for us to comment on other peoples relationships. In the end, it is talking together that gets everything sorted out. As for change. People can and change. Just ask any parent about their life before and after the children arrived as to just how much change that brings. The comments made by Foamy above are very valid in this case. "anything can happen with these two fine ladies;..." hits the nail right on the head. Emotions is what governs the interaction between the girls, it is usually what governs the interaction between any female. Do not forget that men and women are "wired up" differently. His last comment about Jealousy is the most telling. Everything changes when Doe Eyes is on the premises. I think that may be the biggest cause of frustration between all of them. Once left alone again, the smiles re-surface and Nina and Kira can relax again, to almost be themselves. I say almost, because another problem they face, which is unique, and where we come in, is the cameras. Nina is comfortable with the cameras, even plays to them occasionally, especially in the bathroom, whereas Kira is not. She tolerates them, most of the time. Though when it gets too much, she will hide herself away. She stays covered up much more often lately, there is not the gay abandon she used to have in the early days. Often wears panties to bed and keeps them on during some sex sessions. This constantly being under surveillance is another thing that causes tension in their relationship. None of us on CC can possibly understand what that feels like. So now for my biggest turn around of all. No Howard I am suffering from a fever or anything else. I too am a realist. I think it is time that Nina and Kira should leave RLC. Yes that's right, they should leave. Not for anyone else's whim or fantasy to be satisfied, but for their own good. After all they have been through over the last couple of years, and with what is happening in their private lives outside of the apartment, it is time they concentrated on just each other. In the next few months they are more than likely to see huge changes in their lives anyway, so best to get rid of this one problem once and for all, for there own sanity if nothing else. Thanks for reading. Thanks to Howard for toning down his text size a little. Thanks to Foamy for his voice of reason. Most of all, thanks to the girls, it's been wonderful.

Well horror of horrors, I am for once going to have to agree with "Shouty Howard" at least up to a point. (I do wish he would use the same size text as everyone else, I've had him blocked off, so I never see his content once I'm signed in). Now unblocked so we can have a civilised discussion if he wants to. So yes Howard. You are correct in your observations. Even quite insightful. What I do disagree with is that they cannot resolve their differences. No I'm not arguing with you, on the contrary. It's just that I believe that all relationship problems can be sorted out as long as both parties are willing to talk to an intermediary/counsellor. He is right in thinking that it will be Kira who will be the one to make the break. She did it before, last year, with their "trial separation". When Kira returned, Nina changed her ways and was growing up as a woman. Unfortunately, she is reverting back to her old self again. Which is a shame. Though this is something that can be rectified so long as she acts now. It is rumoured that they read our posts. So if you do girls. You know how to get in touch with me, or anyone else for that matter. just please do so before it's too late.

Well that was strange! After one of the most epic orgasms from Kira, provided by Nina. This was followed by one of the biggest arguments. Something was said that upset Kira, and off she stormed into the lounge. Made up the sofa and was going to spend the rest of the night alone. Eventually Nina came out of the bedroom and it all kicked off again. It looked as if Nina was about to walk out, until Kira stopped her. Both hiding by the entrance in the hallway. Not for us to know what happened there. So for those that say these two are boring. Go F... yourselves. Both back in bed. Looks like they have a cease fire going on at the moment. These two desperately need someone to help them sort out their problems...

How about this one Damn I bet that's cold....

The Main Man strikes again! Brilliant! Looks like there may be a whole sheep there. :-)))

Oooops! looks like Nina made a mistake on her knitting. Having to undo it all 02:30. Shame as it was coming along nicely. Looks like one of the cats wants to take up knitting too Lots of smiles from Kira tonight. Wonderful to see that.