They were on Bongacam for a few days. It is assumed that VV management put an end to that since non payers were able to see their more direct POV content there. Needless to say, the paying VV subscribers got pissed about it. Since they stopped caming, the "actors" have revolted by keeping their clothes on and having very little sexual behavior. Petra is a whole other problem. Feel free to comment in the Tver thread.