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Nelly visiting Martina and Alberto?

Yes but she clearly speaks English well enough to understand her. I also didn't know that Monica could speak English also, but maybe I never noticed it because I do not watch B4 much anymore...maybe I'll change that now.

Wow. What a pleasant surprise. Taylor, Monica and another woman in the kitchen having a fun conversation all in ENGLISH! Maybe RLC has been listening and asked the women to speak a little more English when they can. Something maybe to look forward to every once in a while. Thank you ladies!

For me. it is one hell of an ugly balcony. It looks like a storage area for a lot of their junk...doesn't seem like any renovation occured...it's a dump. Maybe that will change but M&A should take a look at Karol and Kos's balcony for inspiration...it's very nicely done in the area off K&K's living room at least. Although apparently the two couples have have chosen not socialize even though they live on top of one another. I still find that situation weird.

Hi all. Earlier today I sent in a post but I hit the wrong keys and it accidently went into a new topic instead of going directly to the Martina-Alberto forum. So I'm reposting again here. I cancelled my sub to RLC due to boredom of content. Because of that I didn't pay much attention to CC either. I've resubscribed to RLC and wanted to broach a previous subject to see if someone here has some new input to share. I find it really unusual that Martina and Alberto have yet to reach out to Karol and Kos. In previous posts it seemed like the general opinion here was that RLC frowned upon Russian/Ukrainian participants "mingleling" with the Spaniards. So, does anyone here have any new reasons as to why Martina and Alberto apparently have not contacted Karol and Kos...at least on cam? Is there bad blood between Martina and Karol? Some mentioned the language barrier but both Martina and Koss can understand and speak reasonable English and Martina can understand and speak a little Russian, thanks to Nelly and Bogdan. For two RLC couples living in the same building to not contact each other seems really weird.

Sorry this post is showing up here. I clicked on the wrong field...this should have been sent to the general Martina and Alberto discussion part of their forum.

I have been away from the RLC and CC site for a while due to lack of interest but have decided to give both another try. The last time I was paying attention to Martina and Alberto, there was a discussion as to why M & A were not introducing themselves to Karol and Koss. I seem to remember that a couple people thought that RLC did not want Russian/Ukranian participants "mixing" with Spaniards. Or is there bad blood between Martina and Karol and so they are not interested in forming a friendship even though they live in the same building? Has anyone heard anymore on this subject?

I undertand the sarcasm as I have repeatedly said on the forum many, many times that it would be stupid of RLC to stop the Martina/ Nelly tryst. The sub numbers shot up dramatically during the affair, we all know that. And it it would seem foolish for Martina and Nelly to hide the sexual affair if it brought them additional income. BUT, something is now going on. Recently when Martina visits B7 with or without Alberto, all of a sudden Martina and Nelly disappear for an hour or more and they're clearly still at B7....and can't be found on any cam during that time. I have always tried to stay away from speculations because I don't know what's really going on due to lack of physical evidence...live video...but I might be breaking that rule now on my part. Something just isn't adding up here with Martina and Nelly. Too many times they are together and yet they go off-cam. So, up to very recently I would have agreed with the points you're making here today. But I respectfully now have changed my mind as to what's going on between M&N. Sorry to disagree with you here.

It's a shame that RLC has possibly dictated to Martina and Nelly that they keep the romance off-cam. I believe that their friendshio is still more than just that alone. Some would say that RLC has nothing to do with that but all evidence seems to show that there is a deliberate attempt on someone's part to keep things private. Maybe its Martina and Nelly's decision...does'nt matter....it's the subcribers being left out on what's really going on between the two...no "reallifecam" here. I for one have finally made the decision to cancel my sub. I am really tired of this "cat and mouse"game Martina and Nelly are playing with us and it really disappoints me to say that. I think othere here are also tiring of the Martina/Nelly teasing of us. Normally when Martina visits Nelly there's several of pages of replies on the forum...yesterday there were only 2 replies. I think that Martina/Nelly fatigue has finally set in. Some would say that the "affair" part of the friendship is over...I think not. A normal friendship does not dictate censorship.

How about this idea: Have RLC bribe Putin's secret police and move back to Russian apartments.

Nice post ddhm. I think some of us can also see the potential in allowing Spanish/Russian/Ukranian tenants to "mingle". After all, one of the most interesting things to watch on RLC, or at least used to be, was the formation of new friendships. And some of that involved tenants who had some language barriers to overcome. We need not focus on how Martina and Nelly conquered that barrier...there have been others. I also believe there are some Russian and Ukranians in the Barca apartments who can understand and speak some Spanish...they ARE in Spain and really would have to know some Spanish to get by you would think. And of course many of the Russians and Ukrainians understand and can speak English...Holly, Thor, Tweety, Martina, Nelly, and I'm sure there are more. Like you, I don't accept the "language barrier" excuse and I think you're right to feel that more "mixed" get togethers can only help RLC sub excitement...which of course RLC needs badly. It just takes some effort on RLC's part. They CAN suggest a "mingling" policy to tenants.

Hi Jen, On 8/23 ddhm resonded to my post about getting more mingling among tenants. In his response to me he said: "As for non-mixing, I think RLC doesn't want introduce a "mixture", reasons unknown". Jen, you can look at my original post...I think it was on 8/22 or 8/23. It gives a far more detailed set of comments and questions I had on the subject. By the way, your points today also opens up a new avenue of inquiry. Thanks.

Hi yelt, I pretty much agree with your post. I did find M&A's lack of socialization with other couples kind of strange for a long time. The other day I posted somewhere on CC that I thought it strange that Martina and Alberto had yet to meet their new RLC neighbors Karol and Kos who live literally nextdoor. Someone responded that RLC frowns upon non-Russian RLC couples socializing with Rusian/Ukranian couples. That kind of threw me as that hasn't seemed true in the past. I asked myself why would that be now? I know the language barrier might be there, in but this case involving M&A and K&K, Martina understands some Russian and can speak a little of it and she understands English and can speak it relatively fluently. Koss, I believe can also understand and speak English very well...so I feel the language barrier between these two couples could be managed. Any thoughts?

But from the view I saw, there were at least four apartments across from M&A's kitchen window, maybe more, that could easily see into the kitchen when Martina was standing close to the window like she does. Oh well, no big deal.

Interesting view from the kitchen window today. I always thought that the M&A apartment was on the first or second floor. Maybe I missed something in the past but it looks like from their view of apartments across from them that M&A live in an upper floor apartment as they're looking down on other apartments. I think for some reason today the kitchen window was opened to its fullest position during daylight and gave a whole new view of the outdoors neighborhood around them. The neighbors must be getting an eyefull of Martina when she walks around naked...maybe just another example of her penchant for exhibitionism. Sorry but Alberto just closed the window. I hope some were able to catch the brief glimpse of the neighborhood.

OK. that would be great. Thanks..

Sorry everyone, I somehow sent a post to the wrong place on this forum. It is now showing up as a new topic... response to Alladino. I just wanted to end my part in the discussion we were having between us.

Well Alladino,I guess I have to agree to disagree with your last reply to me. What you considereed fake lesbian events, I don't. I also suspect others felt the lesbian/bisexual escapades seemed genuine. To put it simply we each have our own view of things and I'm going to leave it at that ok as I see no reason to keep discussing this over and over. Again, I appreciate your input but I'd like to move on.

I agree with some of the things you are saying, but there have been parties at B4 over the last 2-3 years where clearly people were having a GREAT time and never did I think it was all an "act" or fake. And there were always guys around. Never did the chemistry between some of the women seem "pseudo" because, yes, some of the women were really bisexual by nature back then...and some still are. I do agree with you that RLC has really dropped the ball in not bringing more real bisexual women into the GOV apartments. Obviously the Martina/Nelly stuff at those parties wasn't fake to be sure. Same can be said about some of the sensual/sexual escapades involving Megan, Holly, Martina. and Gina. There was definite "heat" in some of those instances. So maybe what I yearn to see again in the GOV apartments is not possible with the current crop of tenants...you're probably correct there. But RLC could change that with a bit of a shakeup...but don't get rid of Lilith as I suspect she is bisexual and might be a willing participant. Anyway, thanks for the conversation and some good points.

Hi Frank. Actually I should have mentioned in my post that I was thinking more about the parties they used to have in B4 when tenants like Megan, Holly, Martina, Nelly and others that I can't remember attended.There was a lot of chemistry between the women at some of those parties along with a lot of drinking and whatever else was being consumed and some of the parties were wild...never a dull, boring moment. Of course Megan and others are gone now so the big question is, in the current batch of tenants, are there any that can step up to the plate and bring back that intensity of the old parties...that's really what I was refering to and hoping for. Sorry I didn't make that clearer.

Naga, I totally misunderstood your post...I'm so very sorry ...please disregard my comments...just had a "senior moment" ... getting old sucks!

Well, I think some of us are rethinking that. The translators are like all of us...imperfect. I do appreciate their input but sometimes I think they're bound by RLC policy...but that is only speculatiom based upon what I've seen over the last seven years of having a sub.

Well, you know I follow your posts and respect them. Can you give us specific info why you feel this way? Is there something you know that the rest of us don't? Can you translate Russian and Spanish to English so we can all understand what's being said in conversations between Martina/ Alberto/ Nelly/ Bogdan? What conversations between Nelly/Martina, Nelly/Martina/Bogdan and Martina/Alberto can you translate over the last week? I mean no disrespect at all. But I think that the incidents over the last few days need some clarifications based upon translations at specific times. I appreciate that some translations could not be acsertained because conversations could not be heard based upon microphone placement or that conversations were private per RLC dictates to translators, though translatable. If you could give us actual timeframes or dates over the last week where you could translate, that would be helpful. Again, I mean no disrespect...I'm just trying to understand the strange activities of the last week between Martina and Nelly, and maybe Bogdan...and of course Alberto as well. Thank you in advance for any info you can give many of us.

Hi Kris. Well, I used to feel the same way you do, so I respect your question. I in fact, had doubts about the "parking lot" incident because I felt without a video to prove that it happened, well, I just couldn't bring myself to subscribe to it ever happening. But now, after months of thinking about that and other incidences that are unexeplained, I've come to believe there is something PROBABLY going on. I think that maybe last weekend's party at B7 with Martina walking around bare-breasted in front of Bogdan, was a clue. Martina is an exhibitionist and is quite smart in my view. But for her to do that in front of Nelly, started me thinking. Then today, with Martina and Nelly disappearing for what, four hours, I just think there are too many times when they both are not on cam at the same time yet return to their residences at approximately the same times. I have studied this but really couldn't bring myself to think that their sexual relationship was still going on. Then I remember Jen Mom saying, as a woman, that it is really difficult for women in love with each other, to evacuate those feelings. I think that's the case here...these two women are still in love with each other and that is a very, very hard bond to break'The last few days are revealing that in my mind. Thank you for your perspective.