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Hi Rob,We will just have to wait and see what happens but you are absolutely bang on with the last part of your post.

With the type of gang network that could be involved it might be easier said than done ,but I take your point and hope you are correct.

Yeh totally agree.I don't want to go too deeply into the subject and become boring but under the old Communist regime(Ussr)this sort of thing would not have happened but as we all know the political product they had back then in my opinion had it's own type of censorship and hard line rule.I think everyone knew when Communism fell it only opened the door to corrupt Capitalism which in turn allowed Mafia gang type culture to flourishNothing new I know but this VH situation is typical of the way they operate.What I don't get is that if VH closed their Odessa APTS.for good everybody loses.Nothing for us and no income for the criminals.Am I being over simplistic.!

At this moment in time I personally hope everyone is OK.Who does or doesn't return surely is secondary just now.

If it is the Ukrainian "Mafia" who are no Mickey Mouse outfit I am not surprised.This is the way of leeches.But as you say safety for all concerned is paramount.

Of course but this is all about people being safe.Cannot comment further till we know more.Once again I just hope everybody involved is OK.!

I have just logged on.Have they left?

That's a I'm fucked pose literally if ever I saw one!

Just keeping abreast of the situation then😀

Edda maybe wants some me time and told him to sling his hook😀

Cheers,I have seen so many but just kept forgetting to ask.

Well,Well naughty Aunty Clara.I very rarely watched Zoi and Tim in either of their APTS. But if it happened in Clara's place then I missed it.Can I ask you something?What is it Russian people smoke in these big things with the pipe they all share?

Is that called sleep running😀😀

I think you know as well as I do that there is zero to no chance of the lovely Clara having sex with anyone else except Stas so a real foursome was never on anyway.But I suppose a foursome is open to interpretation.If Clara has had sex with someone else I stand corrected.

Thanks for that.

Hi Rob,I'm sure she has been topless.

Ok if you say I am wrong fine.What I was meaning was that if you think that kind of get together is a step in the direction of the abyss(your words)I assume you dislike the people involved.I have been a Sub.on VH for well over a year(CC five minutes)and have seen dozens of similar parties,quite tame affairs at times but I wouldn't commit them to the abyss.Will you tell me please what you meant by "Hunter and what he was doing"Thanks.

I could be wrong but did I see a post recently that there was a new couple coming to Alan's?

Thanks for your response.Interesting!!

Last night's little get together to me was just 4 lovely people having a few drinks with some dance moves from the girls(definitely not Stas or Hunter)I assume from your remarks that unless it is a full on sex orgy then it is a waste of time.As far as I am concerned a little innocent sexy fun now and again makes a change from rampant sex orgies all the time.To me variety is the spice of life.If there is a next time it may be a little hotter you never know.However I do respect your opinion.

Ok if you think so but there will be a good few in front of them.My whole world would end if we lost the superb Piper.I don't want to be over dramatic but I will gladly follow her.😊😊😊😊PS:I'M maybe heading their anyway.😀

Wouldn't we all but what's the chances

NowNow, I know the only way is up for this place but it is a step in the right direction.Maybe a pathetic step but still a step.

Well done Ze 81 for having a second languageAs for V&K I only watch them when they are making real love with each other and no one else involved and no cams.

Yeh they obviously have to raise their game and after all the episode with P&C had promising possibilities but we know what happened there.Personally I could watch Piper all night and I would be gutted if she left and As for Hunter,not to keen on him there is just a something about him I cannot put my finger on.I just hope they take the advice you say they have been given.Fingers crossed!