vanillajohn

If your being confronted with an argument and your first instinct is to lead someone into thinking they're fucking crazy and imagining things without even feeling remotely apologetic for the entire hour of the discussion, then yes that screams gaslighting. Thanks for reminding me why I didn't post on these forums anymore.

Let's be real, you and everyone else here who have been watching RLC for more than two weeks could've predicted it lol

Anyway, they'll end up fucking in a few hours since that's how the B folks fix their issues lol

I don't know what the context of the argument is about, but at some point she told him she's feeling like he often puts some blame onto her (again not sure why) and he pretty much told her that if he doesn't explicitely says that she's at fault for something then it's all in her head, that she is imaginating things. Whether he's right or not, and I personally don't think he is otherwise he would have another approach, that's gaslighting 101 and a cunt move.

Lol at the morality argument in here when everyone is glued to the B houses' cams and makes the topics explode whenever X is fucking Y. Whoever is pushing the moral high ground is either lying to themselves or just full of shit. 99.9% of the people here thinks with their dick (or clam) and it reflects in about every single post 🤣

Yeah, not gonna lie it's funny to read all the bitching about Lackey and none towards the 2 girls for enabling his sorry ass and making a show about it. Never change, CC.

Listen, I'm all for diversity in opinions. The issue lies within the realm of extrapolating beyond what's actually happening for no reason except to instigate. Of course when no one knows about their everyday life events, of course I find it perfectly fine to get diverse interpretations about them. My comments have nothing to do what that. They never were about that. The annoying part, and that's not me but a lot of forum users who obviously have stopped posting exactly because of what I'm trying to explain, is the personal projections onto the participants' endeavours, the actual antagonizing of those who provide any useful info, and then the crazy stories taken as facts even though it's proven otherwise (i.e. "Martina has told everything that happened that last night off-cam to Alberto in the living room earlier but it doesn't matter because she's lying, I know better"). The bold part is exactly what I'm saying, right there. So much evidence has been provided countless times but YOU just choose to not believe it because it's not what YOU want. People like @omedo and @emnv have been here trying to feed as much info as people wanted only to be met with skepticism or snarky remarks most of the time, even though their -in fact the real- narrative have been proven countless times as what happened in the timeline was fitting 100%. It's then so ass-backwards to see comments asking for actual info. Put yourself, if you ever can, in their place. Now if you ask how they know about stuff beyond what's on cam, it's simple: Obviously they speak the language, and Martina talks A LOT about her life. Once you hear what she and Alberto are actually telling each other, you get to know a lot more than what can actually be seen on cam. And if you think that they're lying for the cams, then it goes back to my point about you choosing to stick to your idea, whatever it may be. Plus, by paying close attention (for example if you did, by now you should know the real name of most of the tenants you are following) there are rather easy ways to verify some things beyond RLC and the forums, just like with any other participant, but I won't say anything more because it's likely to be against the forums' rules. Anyways, have it like you want...

Hold up. Let's not act like more than half the comments that's posted here aren't people's own fairy tales about what's happening off cam, which are things y'all don't see, that lead to ridiculous conclusions. Don't ask which, there are tons of examples. Let's also not act like whenever someone (who's proven to be legit) has the generosity to share some info via translation, then it's met with skepticism and deflected to the trash so that y'all theories can keep on living. Theorizing even gossiping about stuff is fine so long as it doesn't devolve into an echo chamber of ridiculousness after it's proven otherwise, which unfortunately has occurred more than enough times. After some of y'all are wondering why no one shares any info anymore. What's the point?

Not to mention that Martina herself has said -several times- on cam that she can't stand people who make shit up here in the forums. Of course they won't believe it since it's not part of their fairy tale but I also bet that they won't even realize that there's a strong possibility that it pushes her to limit the social stuff that she does in front of the cams. If you speak against all the bullshit ass narratives because of what actually is going on and is said on cam, you're automatically painted as a relative or someone linked to RLC when really it's just basic decency. Throwing gossips and rumours left and right about someone is just trash behaviour. And while she's definitely no angel and even her (actual) more devoted viewers (I fucking hate the term "fan") have disagreed with some of her actions they understand that it's not their place to run their mouth about it, hence the "lack of criticism" argument brought by some. No one brings any info or translation anymore because of the tone-deaf idiots. I swear this place nowadays makes the Leora fanclub look like sane, level-headed individuals...

Some people have been spewing this kind of bullshit almost ever since they've joined RLC (if I had a penny every time someone said that Martina is unhappy and would leave Alberto, I'd be as rich as Jeff Bezos) because 1. They can't accept the fact that Alberto punched above his weight, 2. They don't (want to) understand what an open relationship is about and 3. They're clearly bored out of their mind so they decide to create and track an imaginary narrative to entertain themselves. Some of these people who are desperately seeking for information to feed whatever fairy tale they believe in are quick to point out the things they are seeing/interpreting on cam but then whenever a translation is provided, it's skewed into either doubt towards the translator or something to entice the viewers into buying a fake narrative just because it doesn't fit theirs (even though a lot, if not most of what has been translated was proven as it actually happened and could've been verified). And because they can't win an argument there, they then turn into believing in shit that happens off cam because it's the only way nothing can be proven. And even there, some of the things can be proven via their social media (and no I won't provide anything, but y'all should be able to find them easily since you know them so well, lol). The funniest thing is whenever they say they love Martina and care about her when in reality she'd punch them in the face with all the garbage that's been written here.

Next time you walk by a mirror, please remind yourself that self-harm isn't the answer 🙂

It's over, Habs don't have any miracles left. Our defense is banged up and our key players on offense aren't doing much (some are playing injured). The coach pretty much only ran 4 dmen for the entirety of the playoffs and they're now all are playing with either one hand or on one leg. Cooper is seriously outcoaching Ducharme & Richardson. Price was absolutely stellar before this series but he's having a rough time against TBL and isn't helped at all by the defense. The Habs are making way too many mistakes and causing a lot of turnovers. Tampa is one hell of a team, hats off to the organization for building such a powerhouse and to the players for putting it all on the line for the repeat. I'm not sure how people will react if (when) the Habs lose but so far it's been pretty civilized here downtown. The only small trouble we've had is after the win against VGK, but it was pretty much caused by the police as told (and shown via video) by many people who were there. There were approximately 15000 people outside who were celebrating in a rather well mannered way, but because 4 or 5 idiots launched fireworks and climbed onto street signs, the police decided to shoot tear gas into the mass of people. They hit children and elders which triggered the crowd and created the confrontation. Some people flipped over and destroyed 2 police cars. No shop/business has been harmed as far as I know. I was at the game that night, and we had to remain in the building for almost 2 hours. The players couldn't get out either. It was an interesting experience lol.

The craziness alone would make it better than the pile of shit that was the final season 👍

Wow get out of here, you and your rationalization that sounds totally logical 😏 But you're 100% right. You'll read a bunch of malarkey here just because some simps can't fucking stand that Alberto punched above his weight, and they won't accept their couple dynamics...

It's no surprise since Bruno is a scumbag himself

Yes, that's the only plausible reason why they happen to be right about things related to them... Thanks for reminding me why I, and many others, have stopped posting here. Enjoy your fantasy world...

Over time, you learn who is actually reliable and who's not here. @emnv & @omedo are pretty much right about everything Spanish/Valencian/Catalan, or if they're not they will make sure to correct themselves (which is pretty rare anyway). But some people just won't learn or don't have the capacity to, apparently... (I'm not talking about you here...)

The translators here have proved themselves to be reliable as they brought accurate info in regards the tenants only because of what they heard. And when they are wrong, they are the first to admit it and correct themselves. But, every now and then, you can't help yourself but to put on your little tin foil hat and try to find a reason to bitch against them because you find it hard to believe that they understand them whilst you can't, or that whatever is brought up doesn't fit into your own narrative of things. Over time, you've managed to annoy every single translator that brought info here and you've been called out many times about it.

Yeah, how about the translators just stop sharing what they hear? Maybe you'll finally be happy once every single one of them is gone from the forum, so that way you'll be free to bring up all your theories as fact without being challenged.

True. There sure as shit is a lot of jealousy roaming around here. Just look at all the comments trashing Alberto for anything he does or says, and any other guy that comes remotely close to Martina...

Nelly has been obsessed with Martina ever since she (M) entered the project a few years ago. If anything, I feel like she's the one dictating how the relationship goes.

I can't blame him since their sessions last about 45 seconds. 😏

Many Russian and Spanish translators have brought up the info and the participants themselves have had numerous discussions over time about top cams and bonus money...

Or perhaps it's the other way around and the bs doesn't come from the people who seem really nice. Just food for thought...