Thoughts on Illegal immigration?

[Maturin]

13 minutes ago, ipiratemedia said:

"Allo guvnor, 'ow do you do? Can I interest you in some Marmite crisps? Grand, innit?" You're the Parrot Maturin! No one is going to bow down or listen to your complete utterness. I'm tired of your virtue-signaling as signs of supposedly high intelligence, and lack of interest in any form of severe morality or amelioration. These people here are good people, many compassionate by temperament. (IMO) It seems two-dimensional, as you believe that being a nice guy, or a well-socialized person who holds the correct political views is all there is, and there is nothing else to talk about. Bullshit! "Stick to a Cup of Tea or Watch the Tele." In all regards, I do value your opinion Maturin and I appreciate your intellect.. I hope one day we all can understand, "arguing isn't communication, it's noise!"  

Thanks for your input. You've really moved the debate up a notch or two. Your a real credit to your nation. A fine example of the current state of the US.

[Maturin]

1 hour ago, Thestarider said:

Until you need us again then you will coming begging on your knees, because you can't protect yourselves LMAO you are really something Maturin, a true Marxist. 

I don't think you know what some of those words you've used mean.

[Maturin]

1 hour ago, Ridgerunner said:

If you use the BBC as your source for information,I fully understand why you are so poorly informed. At least in the U.S. our government does not yet censor the news as they do in your nation. 

Two words; Fox News

You're doing that stupid thing again mate. You know...

[rammer]

1 hour ago, Maturin said:

I don't think you know what some of those words you've used mean.

He knows what the words mean but he has an incredible ability to not be able to discern facts from fiction, or facts from lies.  It's common to Trumpion  believers. Maybe Pharma can supply a pill to dilute the problem?  Chill it out?  Or maybe a commen sense reality will reappear.  I guess that's too much to ask for.  Reality used to be the norm in the USA before Trump. Two plus two doesn't equal five Trumpists.  That's a fact and not fake news.

[Thestarider]

What are you supposed to do?  Well your president has just announced that your country is no longer a member of the UN Human Rights Council. Have you got the slightest idea what that means for Americans such as yourself? Not refugees or children but what you would call "regular" Americans.  You have brought what is coming to you down on yourselves now and you should be scared for yourselves and your own children (you obviously don't give a fuck about others' but the chickens are about to come home to roost).

This what you are suppose to do !!!!

“For too long, the Human Rights Council has been a protector of human rights abusers, and a cesspool of political bias,” Nikki Haley, the U.S. ambassador to the UN, said Tuesday at the State Department in Washington. She said the decision was an affirmation of U.S. respect for human rights, a commitment that “does not allow us to remain a part of a hypocritical and self-serving organization that makes a mockery of human rights.”

While that timing was jarring, the U.S. withdrawal had been in the works for some time. National Security Adviser John Bolton had also opposed the body’s creation when he was U.S. ambassador to the UN in 2006. Current Ambassador Haley warned a year ago that the U.S. would pull out if the council didn’t address what she saw as its bias toward Israel and the fact that many of its current members -- they include China, Saudi Arabia and Egypt -- have poor human rights records themselves.

On the opening day of the council’s current session, British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson criticized the body’s perennial agenda item dedicated to Israel and the Palestinian territories, calling it “damaging to the cause of peace.”

Look at the council membership, and you see an appalling disrespect for the most basic rights,” she said, citing human rights abuses by Venezuela, China, Cuba and Democratic Republic of Congo.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo agreed, calling the council “an exercise in shameless hypocrisy.”

A group of 12 prominent nongovernmental organizations, including Human Rights First, Freedom House and Save the Children, sent a letter to Pompeo The letter recognized “legitimate concerns about shortcomings in the council’s structure and operations.” “But none of these gaps warrants withdrawal from the council, and the U.S.’s absence will only compound the council’s weaknesses,” the letter said.

Some analysts praised the decision, including Brett Schaefer of the Heritage Foundation, who credited the U.S. with taking a “measured approach.” “The Trump administration could have left the council any time in the past 18 months, but it did not,” he said.

Haley also called for reforms to the body, including action to prevent some of the world’s worst rights abusers from having a seat on the council, in part by making the election process more competitive and transparent.

[rammer]

42 minutes ago, Thestarider said:

 

 

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This what you are suppose to do !!!!

“For too long, the Human Rights Council has been a protector of human rights abusers, and a cesspool of political bias,” Nikki Haley, the U.S. ambassador to the UN, said Tuesday at the State Department in Washington. She said the decision was an affirmation of U.S. respect for human rights, a commitment that “does not allow us to remain a part of a hypocritical and self-serving organization that makes a mockery of human rights.”

While that timing was jarring, the U.S. withdrawal had been in the works for some time. National Security Adviser John Bolton had also opposed the body’s creation when he was U.S. ambassador to the UN in 2006. Current Ambassador Haley warned a year ago that the U.S. would pull out if the council didn’t address what she saw as its bias toward Israel and the fact that many of its current members -- they include China, Saudi Arabia and Egypt -- have poor human rights records themselves.

On the opening day of the council’s current session, British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson criticized the body’s perennial agenda item dedicated to Israel and the Palestinian territories, calling it “damaging to the cause of peace.”

Look at the council membership, and you see an appalling disrespect for the most basic rights,” she said, citing human rights abuses by Venezuela, China, Cuba and Democratic Republic of Congo.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo agreed, calling the council “an exercise in shameless hypocrisy.”

A group of 12 prominent nongovernmental organizations, including Human Rights First, Freedom House and Save the Children, sent a letter to Pompeo The letter recognized “legitimate concerns about shortcomings in the council’s structure and operations.” “But none of these gaps warrants withdrawal from the council, and the U.S.’s absence will only compound the council’s weaknesses,” the letter said.

Some analysts praised the decision, including Brett Schaefer of the Heritage Foundation, who credited the U.S. with taking a “measured approach.” “The Trump administration could have left the council any time in the past 18 months, but it did not,” he said.

Haley also called for reforms to the body, including action to prevent some of the world’s worst rights abusers from having a seat on the council, in part by making the election process more competitive and transparent.

So wWhat are you supposed to do?  Well your president has just announced that your country is no longer a member of the UN Human Rights Council. Have you got the slightest idea what that means for Americans such as yourself? Not refugees or children but what you would call "regular" Americans.  You have brought what is coming to you down on yourselves now and you should be scared for yourselves and your own children (you obviously don't give a fuck about others' but the chickens are about to come home to roost).

What is your point Rider?   How did this move society forward?  Please define who "regular " americans  are. So what the hell does it have to do with the children left abandoned by Trump's policy?  Tender age shelters?  Look it up

[rammer]

And Mexico will pay for the wall.  You guys voted for him because of that?  Now he wants congress to pay $25 billion to support your bs wall.  He's using children's displacement to leverage building the wall.  Is this is what you believe how  we should be the leader of the freer world?  If you had at least one parent who had a sense of morals and humanity you know this is wrong.  It's all over a bs wall that isn't needed. 

[Ridgerunner]

1 hour ago, rammer said:

He knows what the words mean but he has an incredible ability to not be able to discern facts from fiction, or facts from lies.  It's common to Trumpion  believers. Maybe Pharma can supply a pill to dilute the problem?  Chill it out?  Or maybe a commen sense reality will reappear.  I guess that's too much to ask for.  Reality used to be the norm in the USA before Trump. Two plus two doesn't equal five Trumpists.  That's a fact and not fake news.

You are probably even stupid enough to believe the Trump/Russia collusion myth.

[rammer]

7 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said:

You are probably even stupid enough to believe the Trump/Russia collusion myth.

I've lived a long time on this earth and I can honestly say that your last quote is by far the most ignorant thing I have ever seen.  Thanks for being #1 Ridge!  Keep it up my friend.  You are one in a million.

[Thestarider]

The UN’s Human Rights Council has issued more condemnations of Israel than of all other countries combined, a new report has found, prompting allegations of gross corruption. The Council also reserves a special agenda item targeting Israel in every meeting, singling out the country in a way not done for any other.

According to the civil rights group UN Watch, in the nine years since the UN’s Human Rights Council was first set up, it has issued condemnations of Israel 61 times, far outstripping the 55 condemnations of other countries from across the world issued in the same period. 

The next highest on the list is Syria, which has been the subject of criticism by the Council a mere 15 times. North Korea, which keeps its countrymen in a state of perpetual starvation, cut off from the rest of the world, has received just eight condemnations, whilst Zimbabwe which “severely curtails basic human rights” has received none at all.

There were also seven urgent sessions of the Council convened to condemn Israel. Of the eleven directed at other countries worldwide, four were aimed at Syria, and just one each at seven other countries including North Korea, the Ivory Coast and Libya.

And yet the Council is set to condemn Israel again this week for the 62^nd time, when the Palestinian delegation will deliver yet another report on Israeli action in Gaza.

Hillel Neuer, executive director of UN Watch said “The outcome resolution for the latest Gaza report, to be introduced at the UNHRC this week by the Palestinians together with the Arab and Islamic states, will condemn Israel exclusively, and will mark the 62nd resolution targeting Israel since the new and improved Council was created in 2006 – while the total of all other UNHRC condemnatory resolutions for rest of the world amounts to 55, with most of the world’s worst violators given a free pass, if not a seat on the council itself.

“Sadly, with members like China, Russia, Cuba, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Venezuela and Qatar, the UNHRC today may possibly rank as a more corrupt international organization than FIFA.”

The very agenda of the Council, unchanged for each meeting stacks the odds against Israel as it is the only country singled out for special criticism. Nestled amongst items including “Human rights bodies and mechanisms” and “Human rights situations that require the Council’s attention” is agenda item 7: “Human rights situation in Palestine and other occupied Arab territories.”

Neuer commented: “No other country in the world has its own agenda item — not Sudan, not Syria, not North Korea.”

Many western democracies have boycotted this agenda item over the last year, thanks to its clear bias. In March of this year, US Ambassador to the UNHRC Keith Harper affirmed the USA’s boycott of the item, saying: “The United States strongly and unequivocally opposes the very existence of Agenda Item 7 and any HRC resolutions that come from it.

“We remain deeply troubled – by this council’s stand-alone agenda item directed against Israel, and by the many repetitive and one-sided resolutions under that agenda item. As was the case last year, the United States will not engage in the debate. Neither will Israel. Instead, we will call a vote, and vote no on Item 7 resolutions.”

 

 

[Ridgerunner]

5 minutes ago, rammer said:

And Mexico will pay for the wall.  You guys voted for him because of that?  Now he wants congress to pay $25 billion to support your bs wall.  He's using children's displacement to leverage building the wall.  Is this is what you believe how  we should be the leader of the freer world?  If you had at least one parent who had a sense of morals and humanity you know this is wrong.  It's all over a bs wall that isn't needed. 

And if we had a wall we wouldn't have this problem of separating children from their parents because they would not be able to cross the border and walk into the U.S. illegally. Didn't hear anything from you or the rest of the liberals when the Obama Administration was doing the same thing. Typical phony selective outrage from liberal Democrats who don't give a damn about the children,but just want to use this as a political campaign issue.  To me the words liberal progressive and phony hypocrite are synonymous.

[Thestarider]

Main Stream Media Bias is about as bad as the fact that Schumer and Pelosi have said the Dems will not vote on any bills put forth Thursday to fix the US immigration in the House or the Senate, that they stated want to keep the pressure on President Trump.

Now who is the real problem ? How many times does the GOP have to offer up fixes for the immigration problem and DEMS continue to stonewall a fix, VOTE in NOVEMBER PLEASE

I quote:

"Legislation is not the way to go when the President can fix it with one stroke of the pen"

Why don't the Dems do their fucking overpaid jobs ?

VOTE IN NOVEMBER PLEASE