KarenKraft

Welcome, Shaggy84. This is a fun place and not nearly as "junkyard dog"ish as it may appear today. You are among friends. -Karen

Hahahahaha! Nice try KleptoPig. Your attempt to place the thin edge of the wedge where it can never exist resulted only in it ending up in your arse. But you WIN a PRIZE! A joke just for you. Ready? Okay!!!! Here it is: Kalevipoeg walked into a bar the other day and, in loud angry voice, shouted out, "I've got got a 9mm Glock. I've got one in the chamber and 8 in the clip...now I want to know...Who's been fooling around with my boyfriend?"...A voice at the end of the bar responded..."You're gonna need more ammo..."

Oh. So, now we want to be civil. Okay, I do civil as well as anyone else. I never chastise people in discussion threads for what they say per se. I am perfectly willing to discuss the flaws and virtues of your political postings. Had you the wits, manners, or honesty to reflect on what's been said by you and by me, you will notice that what angered me was not your political position but (1) your ignorant lumping of all those with whom you disagree as "Tea Party" people; and (2) your telling me (and others) that this is not the proper venue for expressing our beliefs -- that we belong in some other (read: right wing) venue. With respect to that sentiment: Fuck You. (got that?) I don't mind arguing with you over politics. I do that sort of thing a lot and I still enjoy the company of those with whom I disagree. However, when a person who is only tangentially articulate wants to silence my free speech, I temporarily set aside my "sweetness" and defend my right of free expression with vigor. I realize that I have to cut you some slack when it comes to things like free speech, because you come from one of the defenseless nations where some aspects of free expression are banned. You and those places enjoy the luxury of being defenseless because America has guns -- lots of them -- both publicly and privately owned. You come from a culture where, perhaps, it is acceptable to tell people in a discussion venue that they ought not be present. Where I come from, those are fighting words. Tell me I'm wrong and I will ask why. Tell me I have no right to express myself and you'll get a fight. That's what people do when they live in a non-defenseless country. I can stomach your senseless latte-sipping misconceptions; I cannot abide your telling me and other conservatives that we're in the wrong place. Again, with respect to that: Fuck you. You are shocked to see that a woman would not be polite and demure in the face of her superiors, so it seems. That says a lot more about you than it does about me. I'll bet dollars to donuts (that thing next to your latte) that you are divorced. I can smell the misogyny wafting up from your posts like the steam from a fresh pile of dog shit on a cool spring morning -- defouling the intellectual landscape. Your being shocked at my lack of lady-like comportment actually means "shut up bitch, bring me a beer." It is typical of those who share your disorders to swagger about, name calling, and insulting people with differing points of view, telling them to go post in some other place, far away from you and your likes. THEN, when they are rudely told to fuck off, they suddenly become the apostles of proper, civilized discourse. Funny how that works. You sling your bullshit and depart the battle the minute someone with some guts puts it to you. In short (no pun intended), you are a coward. That said, once you have become housebroken, I may reconsider your worthiness to communicate on my level. Until then, Fuck you.

None of FDR's New Deal did anything to end The Great Depression in the United States. The Great Depression was ended by the run-up and execution of World War II. The so-called "racket" was the ultimate savior of the U.S. economy in the mid-20th Century. These are very annoying facts for some, but facts they be.

This is for BUTT-BOY KALEVIPOEG: http://youtu.be/1sL8cZpkn4E

Okay. I have to admit that I am humbled by the artistry and word craft that produces poetic prose like: "I have wondered for long time why some of the U.S. right wing conservatives want to gather here on a voyer site for praising the right to own and use arms and for scolding President Obama who in our European eyes has managed to improve the lifes of lower and middle class people, in spite that conservatives do their best to prevent every change. I guess the name "The Old Dudes Board" is very locking, but isn´t there a "Tea Party" chat site on the web also - that would be more dedicated to these opinions?" It's hard to compete with genius like that, isn't it, Squirrel? He is saying that my kind of politics aren't welcome here on the "voyer" chat site -- you know, the one that is good for the lifes of peoples. I may disagree with the gentleman, but I will defend, to the death, his right to eat shit and die on his birthday.

Yes, Karen, you did indeed give away the punchline. Black humor works this way. And it only works because there's so damn much truth in it.

So Susan Lice, the monkey man's lying mouthpiece finally announced their super duper exceedingly george strategy for defeating ISIS. Yup. Miss Lice announced that the U.S. will pursue a strategy of ..... [wait for it.....] . "STRATEGIC PATIENCE" What's that smell? It's the ISIS soldiers shitting their pants in fear! What the fuck is Strategic Patience? This asshole makes Neville Chamberlain look like Wilt Chamberlain. When you work with ADHD kids, you need to give them positive reinforcement even when they aren't necessarily doing anything positive. You end up heaping such praise on them as "Good sitting, Earl!" That's how 0bama grew up: Praise for doing nothing but talking. He talks the talk like William Jennings Bryan, but he walks the walk like Stephen Hawking.

*giggle * Good one, Oz.

My goodness. That almost made me blush. Thank you for your kind and thoughtful words.

Did you know.... That having sexual incest is not illegal in Japan?

For anyone who truly loves human life, it is a sad and bitter truth for which we all must brace ourselves: that as fundamentalism takes hegemonic control over Islam, there will be no solution but the wholesale slaughter of millions. While we must be careful not to target innocents intentionally, the collateral damage to member of that faith is inevitable. There is a pregnant but rabid dog in the courtyard. Its pups have none no wrong, but their mother's disease leaves us no choice: they will parish as she is put down. -Karen Kraft

Just having some fun with someone who takes himself too seriously. And actually, Cap'n Squirrel, when you talk to ordinary folks, not in the media and not at the universities, you find that people overseas love America and American strength. What they dislike now is the duplicity of American leadership. They've been screwed almost as much as we have.

Good point, Linked. Q. How do you separate a Muslim man from a Muslim boy? A. With a crowbar. A Muslim woman was walking past this building site in Mecca when a group of Muslim builders shouted, "Show us your face." An advertisement in a local UK paper: "Four Talibans required as mudflaps. Must be flexible and willing to travel."

I can Karen, The muzzie-in-chief said he was going to change America, well that he has. he is slowly turning us into a mix of the middle east and mexico with a communist philosophy. You know, Linked, it makes me so proud to be an American to witness the fact that we can survive an eight year assault on our culture and our beloved country by the Muzzie Pretender in the White House. I cannot image any other country being so resilient as to overcome having one of the other primates as its head of state. We shall, indeed, overcome. It's actually quite inspiring.

TO BUTT-BOY KALEVIPOEG. HEY DOUCHE BAG! THIS IS A MUSIC THREAD. CAN YOU SAY 'MUSIC'? WELL, TRY AGAIN LATER. GO SPEW YOUR COMMIE CRAP IN THE POLITICAL SECTIONS. THE JUKE BOX SECTION IS NOT FOR TROLLING YOUR SUPERIORS. POST SONGS OR STAY CLEAR. GOT THAT?

Diplobrat. Brought up in the U.S. diplomatic corps family. Been there, seen lots of cultures. You are misinformed about many things, Asshat. I am neither a "dude" nor am I old. Your writing skills are so poor that I suggest you go copy and paste some DailyKos posters to express what your pathetic brain can't put into words. You are a typical left wing douche bag. You make lots of presumptions about the people who express points of view you are unable to understand. You were probably right leaning until some boy you liked a lot convinced you that you need to move left to be cool. Well, now you're cool; you can put on those knee pads and service the entire ISIS army, you're so cool. Have at it. Then, you become the thumb-sucking baby when someone challenges your bullshit directly. Your mood is, most likely, governed by the foul taste of the sucking thumb -- you know where it's been; we can only guess. Being an obvious hick, you thought that living overseas somehow instilled some form of sophistication in you. It did not. It just made you the butt boy for the likes of ISIS. Wouldn't you just love to go over there and rape some kids along side your butt-buddies? Sure you would. That would make you even more cosmopolitan, right? You are a joke.

http://youtu.be/Gtizr2G_7Bk The music to that great classic was written by the 30th Vice President of the United States, Charles Dawes. No, really! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_G._Dawes

HOW MANY LIES WILL THIS MORON TELL IN HER SPEECH LATER TODAY? 5? 10? 20? YOUR GUESS IS AS GOOD AS MINE. KEEP THE FOLLOWING IN MIND: Official State Liar, Susan Rice, is too stupid to realize what an embarrassing idiot she is. Remember when she went on the Sunday TV shows and knowingly lied, saying that the slaughter in Benghazi was the result of a spontaneous demonstration brought on by that horrific YouTube video? This filthy dirt bag will be issuing more useless vomit later today. What will she say? Who knows? But you can be sure that no matter what the text of her speech will be, it is most certainly to be a compilation of falsehoods that she and her bumbling boss contrived. These two couldn't keep a job doing housekeeping at a Motel Six. So, this worthless sack-o-shit is going to extoll the virtues of our fabulous SUCCESSES over in Iraq, where we are killing lots and lots of ISIS soldiers (read: they both died the first day of the air strikes when they ran out into the street and were accidently struck by a passing Child Rape Convoy truck). Of course, she will refer to these Muzzies as “extremists” or “barbarians,” but she won’t call them radical Muslims or Islamists or Muslim terrorists. Nope. That’s because she wouldn’t want to hurt the feelings of her lazy and shiftless boss, who admits he “was” a Muslim but…. Blah blah blah. I would rather watch re-runs of Mr. Ed than watch that stupid and mendacious bitch.

Speaking as a former member of the middle-middle class, our lives and our chances of improving them have been destroyed under this administration. The rose colored glasses you wear over there in Europe have deceived you. Even American liberals are embarrassed by Obama and won't defend his lies anymore. Our medical insurance system is now more expensive, no more people are insured than before, and poor people with our government's "Bronze Plan" can't possibly afford the deductibles, anyway -- if they can find a doctor. Then, when tax time hits, any subsidies are considered taxable income by the government. Our socialist retirement program is demographically & mathematically unsound (yes, it's a Ponzi scheme), and our socialist Medicare system is even worse. Public pension liabilities are already bankrupting our cities. It's not cake and ice cream over here. These are not "right-wing" CC members (Tea Party is not 'right wing,' and neither are Libertarians, incidentally) these are just pissed off Americans who have lost their businesses and jobs and therefore have the "luxury" of time to screw around on this board. Maybe European Marxists should stop their ridiculous idolization of Obama and start dealing with Putin and the new Islamic Caliphate directly. Obama's military contraction and your enemies' military expansion should be a cause of alarm for Central and Western Europeans. I really don't have the money to pay for my government any more. www.usdebtclock.org Pearls before swine, Sr. S. Iggy list just around the corner for that asshole.

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We only have to get rid of about forty thousand Muzzie Monkeys. We do not need to send over 185,000 troops. We need to go in and kill them the old fashioned way. We always win when we do just that. We lose when we decide to nation build and bring democracy to the desert. They don't understand it; it doesn't work for them; they don't like it; they can't make it work. Just butcher as many ISIS folks, ignoring the so-called collateral damage and LEAVE! If they start up again, go kill more. That's how power is really employed.

Today, 0bama met with a secret collection of Islamists. He refuses to say who they were. It looks like they are planning some sort of action against America. There is no legitimate reason to hide these Islamists. The rebuttable presumption is that the reason he hides their identities is because they have something dirty to hide. Perhaps they are ready to begin the Sharia Law as an alternative to U.S. Constitutional law here. The man cannot be trusted. I can't remember him actually ever saying anything that turned out to be 100% true.