Barry Elephant

1 hour ago, clivebb said:

no,i'm tired to read all that shit who come from euromike team,

i hope they will add me in their ignore list too,

this ignore list is the best feature on this forum,that's why i'm back on the forum after 1 month break

yes but you come across like someone putting their fingers in their ears and shouting "la la la can't hear you"

if you are ignoring it, then why not ignore it, rather than joining in with it just to say "i am ignoring this"?

maybe you need another month off :o)

9 minutes ago, clivebb said:

@thestarrider: i see you have quote my post but sorry i can't see your answer,it's some days now i have add you in my ignore list with euromike and co.....

isn't it a bit silly to ignore the conversation but also continue it?

1 hour ago, Catmaster said:

There is a cool black guy hanging out in the apartment. 

how do we know he is cool?

3 hours ago, rebliz said:

Looks that you don't entering often to this room about 50% of 24/7 you wil see more or less the same picture and more 30% he lie or sit on the couch plaing wite electronic games 

Sorry for being dumb. Yes! he is standing up! a rare sight indeed :o)

(thanks rebliz)

They are a couple having a fight. Each will deploy all of the weapons they have at their disposal, and it's fascinating.

If you want to call some of that bullying and some of it not, then rock on mate. I see shades where you seem to be looking for lines. We may have to agree to differ on that.

1 minute ago, longarm101 said:

I don't think so....a lot of door slamming right after I posted, Been following RLC for quite some time never saw anyone use it before today

Yes, I know, you explained that you hadn't seen it before

Just giving my opinion and observations - and I definitely think so!

On ‎2016‎-‎06‎-‎18 at 6:03 PM, rebliz said:

Every time I see this picture I have impulse to kick this asshole

Why? What's going on in the picture? (forgive me if I am missing something obvious, but I can't make it out)

1 hour ago, longarm101 said:

Did anyone else catch the stunt Vika pulled this morning??? It seems the kitchen is off limits if she is in there, she actually closed the door to the kitchen while she made her food. First i didn't know there was even a door there, second thats a real bitch move. Looks like she is trying to pick a fight, especially since she felt the needs to photo document all of "HER" food. Someone needs to send (shrek voice) Donkey out to pasture

I think you may be reading a bit too much into it

(BTW the fact that you didn't know that there was a door there just tells us something about you, not about Vika.)

2 hours ago, BBsq69 said:

I thought you might be from the UK. in which case you cannot have missed the adverts, not that you should really need to see them. Looking surreptitiously might appear more dishonest but indicative that you do not trust a person but to do it in front of their face means you are saying to them "I DO NOT TRUST YOU". with the purpose of the very least upsetting that person. Sneaking in somebody's room and reading their diary is self-evidently wrong but who would be so crass as to take the diary and read it out in front of the author. Maybe you don't see the difference.

Paul does play control games - I'm not saying she doesn't play her own games although far less frequently than she did and of course she controls her money - even at one stage giving her a walkie-talkie which she was clearly annoyed by and this was far from the first time he has shown his jealously and looked through her phone. If someone lends you their phone, would you look through their messages - bit of a betrayal of trust if you do.

Obviously we have all been suspicious and jealous in relationships. It is natural, but lines should be drawn. For instance how many relationships would survive surveillance by a private detective. "I had you investigated and I am glad to say found nothing ... what's the matter, babe?"

There are as you say shades of grey, but Paul has form. Mind you if my girlfriend suggested we go on RLC ... actually probably I wouldn't mind (and it would mean my GF was probably quite hot) but I suspect I'd be in a very small minority ... so we have Paul to thank for something and it must be stressful sometimes.

I think that I may have missed the advertising, I tend to avoid commercial environments, but don't t think that impairs my understanding.

I don't think the bullying issue depends on the presence or otherwise of "crassness." If someone is saying I do not trust you, then it doesn't matter how it is said, and a lack of trust doesn't equate with bullying either. Some distrust can be found in many healthy relationships.

And I didn't mention sneak reading a diary. You did, a couple of times. That is not what I was talking about

1 hour ago, BBsq69 said:

So she does in front with you, with you pleading for her not to do it do you and she fights you off? Really, and that's healthy? Do you read her diary? Like I said, this behaviour is considered bullying in the UK. It's what they use in all the bullying adverts. Obviously people do look surreptitiously if they suspect something but what this says to the other person is "I have control. I do no trust you. If you have problem, go to fuck." You maybe comfortable with it, except you aren't - "I don't like it" - I wouldn't be. 

Not sure I get what you are saying. I don't understand "obviously people do look surreptitiously". Is that bullying or not, now?

I believe that there is an element of saying "I have control" in the phone-reading that I experience. I think that's quite clear. No I don't read her diary. There isn't one and I wouldn't if there was. Nor do I read her phone or emails. That's just how it is. I am not unhappy.

I am in the UK, and I believe I can perceive what is and isn't considered bullying. I am also not sure that things are as clear-cut as you suggest.  

I think it's just a matter of keeping things in proportion, and realising that if someone wants to read my spam and business witterings, then so what? Unless of course there is infidelity, which would be exposed by it, when that all becomes more difficult, and that's another kind of control game, and a different kind of bullying.

Sometimes in relationships people posture at infidelity which makes their partner insecure. I call that unfair, you may say bullying,, and it often leads to behaviour like phone-reading, and worse.

People aren't always nice to one-another. People don't always act like we think they should. People exercise control over each other and their relationship-scenario in various ways. There are no absolutes of right and wrong when that happens, particularly in a relationship. Call it bullying, call it controlling, we all do it at some stage of a relationship. There is also much lack of trust at the heart of many relationships.

There is a lot to talk about in the leora-paul relationship, but most of it is in shades of grey.

8 minutes ago, BBsq69 said:

I am going to be very clear here. Taking somebody's phone and looking through it against their wishes, against their clear protests, is bullying. Paul eased her off and did not intend to hurt her but nevertheless his awful behaviour is why she got hurt.

That is an incident, that is scandal. If you do not know why that is, I cannot help you. It is emotional abuse plain and simple.

There is no conspiracy. Use your eyes. And are you forgetting the physical violence that is already happened in this relationship on more than one occasion and if RLC were any sort of a decent organisation that would have least temporarily suspended the cameras on those occasion for fear of damaging their reputation - well that's what would have happened in the western world.

I suggest all of you who do not seem have not joined the 21st century educate yourselves, but then many men around the world think its OK to treat women like this.

It is not acceptable where I come from, it should not be where you are from.

My woman continually reads my phone against my wishes. She also creeps my emails. She thinks she is doing it in secret, and I pretend to 'catch' her occasionally, and tell her not to do it, yet it continues.

I am not the only man I know who could tell you this. I am sure there will be others on here. Many men suffer many invasions of their privacy, and pretend not to know about it for the same reasons.

I don't count it as bullying, scandal, or think it's particularly awful behaviour. It's just par for the relationship course, if you ask me, deals with some little mistrusts and jealousies, and last time I checked, I was here in the 21st century.  I put up with it because she's my woman. It sets her mind at ease. I don't like it but she's my girl, so I put up with it.

Chill out. Its not that bad having someone go through your telephone, if that person is important to you and it helps them.

On ‎6‎/‎14‎/‎2016 at 4:47 PM, maxfactor said:

Oh okay...1999 was 17 years ago, but that does compare to present day Russia?  I'm sure your shack today in the middle of nowhere is very...um woodsy and remote..but has nothing to do with an apartment in a major Russian city

what a twatty assumption to make. Shack?! why do you assume the man lives in a shack? That's just shit. Proper arse mate.

10 hours ago, Howard said:

What makes Irma attractive are her huge, natural boobs and that she is vivacious. No doubt she'll try anything once.  Her face is OK but if she would have a nose job (she has a poor profile), she'd be categorized as hot.  Irma is a good example where one bad facial feature (her nose) scores her a moderate 7 instead of a hot 9+.

do you really have things like that in your head? scores and scores for facial features etc?

16 minutes ago, BBsq69 said:

 but if you think that's OK you need some education.

Is this directed anwyhere in particular?

Of course bullying is not ok. If it were ok it wouldn't be bullying.

18 hours ago, showtime4me said:

You might be right. My theory might be right (and so I'm sticking by it). There certainly has to be an investigation of some sort from RLC. You think they would let anything just slide by in this day of "Super Political Correctness"? You don't think participants have to sign a contract with RLC that dictates certain repercussions when laws or RCL rules are broken? I'm pretty sure they would sign have to sign contracts and there is a protocol for a situation like this, where one participant hurts another...accident or not.

P.S. Don't you think technitions at RLC can control and manipulate their system to "take down" their camera's if they want to...in a way that makes it look like a maintenance issue? They wouldn't just put up a message that they were investigating a incident, but would most likely make it look like there were other issues...like "maintenance" for example.

 

 

 

the imaginary contract gets even bigger

13 minutes ago, beaver67 said:

yes it is taking a long time, considering Irma has been there before, my guess is that they are cleaning, doing laundry, etc

Spain. Summer. Siesta

11 minutes ago, ericjeanjean said:

An html5 version of flowplayer exists. Why RLC chose the flash version in 2016 is a mystery. My guess would be that it has to do with the watermark bullshit.

yea, that would make sense

I can get by with it, but it's hardly seamless enjoyment!

2 minutes ago, MrBox said:

what is the issue ... it works fine for me

about half the time it tells me to upgrade flash, so I swap browser and its fine. half hour later I use the same browser, it tells me to upgrade flash, and I go back to using browser 1, and its fine. doesn't seem like its a commercial offering

I though flash went out with public telephones and long playing records

flow player is garbage. totally unreliable, unpredictable. amateur.

4 hours ago, jimbo4 said:

Fair play to you Barry,sorry you don't feel so Royal...no problem

And to you mate :o)

12 hours ago, woodworker said:

In France they sort of excuse murder when it's brought about in the heat of passion.    She could always say that she was in heat, and finally just shot the mother fucker out of a lack of passion.    It kind of approaches this same sort of defense, albeit through a round-a-bout way.         

mother fucker?

whoa we will be "busting caps" in his "ass" next

nearly as silly as the Italian necktie we were going to give him:o)

20 minutes ago, jimbo4 said:

If you read the article in detail with as much care as you employ criticising me, you would see that I didn't say " I paid good money ", I stated  "some people pay good money". But please don't let that stop you in the future, I honestly find your articles quite dry and amusing, and I know that whenever anything is written by anyone on this forum, its only a matter of time before you criticise them also. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

I post very rarely, so I don't think I criticise anything by anyone, but if that's the way you I come across, I will live with it. I didn't think I was criticising you, and can't see how you get there from what I had to say. No hard feelings.

I think I quoted you accurately - "people pay good money"

I then said "you pay good money" and I suppose I should have more accurately said "one pays good money" but I am not feeling all that royal today. I think my meaning is pretty clear, and I think the distinction you are advancing is just artificial. Later I asked you a (largely rhetorical) question. 'you' was correct in that context.

It's 'real life". AFAIK real life contains some boogers - sorry!

4 hours ago, jimbo4 said:

... people don't pay good money to see some cretin with his digit stuck up his hooter...

you "pay good money" to see real life, in so far as that's possible, the private lives of normal people, remember?

reality check: people pick their noses in private, sometimes obsessively, and service all manner of obsessions

Surely you didn't "pay good money" to observe folk interacting with all the social grace they would employ at a formal dinner? You could have used your good money to just pay for a formal dinner, if so

(Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it that you don't like Paul, very few people do)

1 minute ago, HarleyFatboy said:

You just had to throw Confucius into mix didn't you lol.  Confucius also said "If I am walking with two other men, each of them will serve as my teacher. I will pick out the good points of the one and imitate them, and the bad points of the other and correct them in myself"

That reads like it may ust be the same quotation in a better? older / different translation

2 minutes ago, HarleyFatboy said:

You could use a little improvement yourself!

Confucius he say...“When you see a good person, think of becoming like her/him. When you see someone not so good, reflect on your own weak points.”