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Bump! Let's get some more votes here. Only 2 weeks left until the 2019 poll.

This is too far. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/7-year-old-migrant-girl-taken-into-border-patrol-custody-dies-of-dehydration-exhaustion/2018/12/13/8909e356-ff03-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html?utm_term=.4ae5278d3eeb

It's hard to go back after having a dual monitor setup.

Nice to see that Ary's back.

The only way you can obtain profits in free-enterprise capitalism is through extreme thrift and efficiency. The problem is that "efficiency" doesn't equal environmentally friendly. Sure it's more efficient for companies to dump toxic waste in the local river than to pay for proper eco friendly disposal, but it's terrible for the environment. To suggest that companies won't pollute the environment because it's bad for business simply isn't true. Disposing of waste in an environmentally friendly way is expensive, and many companies do whatever they can to skirt environmental regulations. There are thousands of examples throughout history of companies knowingly causing long term environmental damage. Companies should be held responsible when they break the law and damage the environment. There are leftover sites all over the country from big industry that are too polluted to do anything with, and the only way to clean them up is to spend millions or billions in taxpayer funds long after the company has gone bankrupt or moved away. We need regulation and regulators to keep companies in check, and we need to punish those who break the law. I really don't understand the rights push to reduce or eliminate environmental protections while also making it more difficult to hold companies responsible for the damage that they cause.

That guy was obviously an idiot. That doesn't mean that climate change isn't real or that the EPA shouldn't exist. There are a myriad of examples of cops taking similarly aggressive and confrontational approaches in situations where it's completely unnecessary or where they didn't take the time to fully understand the situation. Do you feel the same way about overzealous cops? Should we get rid of them too? On a side note 25MW for a bio mass plant sounds impressive as hell.

Do Ary and george even live in their apartment anymore?

That's a strawman argument. The left puts the environment over profits, that doesn't mean that they are pro-socialism or anti-capitalism. You could make the same generalizations about issues that the right supports protectionism and tariffs being an example of anti-capitalism, social security and medicare (which have a lot of support on the right) being an example of socialism. Protecting the environment shouldn't be a partisan issue. It seems like many on the right are against environmental protection simply because they view it as a "leftist" issue, never mind the fact that we share the same planet. I find the "I'd rather drink poisoned water than support the "leftist" agenda" mentality rather alarming.

I suppose it depends on the circumstance but generally I would say no. What does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

Does polluting the air, water, and ground sound like a good idea to you? Does destroying the ecosystem and environment sound like a good idea to you? If you answered yes to either of those questions then there is helping you. If you answered no to those questions then why the hell would you be against environmental protection and taking steps to reduce man made climate change?