Sparkles Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, mib82 said: Why she’s crying? Don't know but they left... This visit was weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mib82 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 13 hours ago, Sparkles said: Don't know but they left... This visit was weird It seems Jerar made her cry... I don't understand why.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenCoudon Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 On 6/22/2018 at 12:32 PM, zoifan said: I think this apartment is under-appreciated here and does not revive the attention i deserved in this forum. I don't think ti is under-appreciated. We already saw it all. For Whitney, it is very obvious to me that the fucks with Ben only for the views. From day one, she's been on this project to earn money and to have a place to stay. She has a great body and she knows it. Watching her naked or having sex with Ben is like watching the same porn clip for the 55th time. After her fiasco with Jerar, she realized that the only way she can stay on this project is to have sex. Ben was available so here we go, Ben that is. For Ben, I think that too much is no better than not enough. We had Sid that never want sex and now we have Ben that does only that. At least, when he was a guest, he had a social life with others. Now he has none. He had few guys that showed up and they played board game. Other than that, we never see him elsewhere. Other than fucking Whitney (and others) 4 or 5 times a day, he seems to have no other interest. So fewer and fewer members are watching them as we know exactly what will happen and how it will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, BenCoudon said: Other than fucking Whitney (and others) 4 or 5 times a day, he seems to have no other interest. So fewer and fewer members are watching them as we know exactly what will happen and how it will happen. I used to say this back in the day and some people used to try to give me shit for it, but I've said time and time again that sex is NOT the only thing people want to see on these sites. All the people that swear up and down about how they're only here for sex, meanwhile we have apartments where all they do is fuck and nobody comments. Sex without any interesting context is almost about as boring as no sex at all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenCoudon Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, miscvoyeur said: I used to say this back in the day and some people used to try to give me shit for it, but I've said time and time again that sex is NOT the only thing people want to see on these sites. All the people that swear up and down about how they're only here for sex, meanwhile we have apartments where all they do is fuck and nobody comments. Sex without any interesting context is almost about as boring as no sex at all. I totally agree with you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, BenCoudon said: I don't think ti is under-appreciated. We already saw it all. For Whitney, it is very obvious to me that the fucks with Ben only for the views. From day one, she's been on this project to earn money and to have a place to stay. She has a great body and she knows it. Watching her naked or having sex with Ben is like watching the same porn clip for the 55th time. After her fiasco with Jerar, she realized that the only way she can stay on this project is to have sex. Ben was available so here we go, Ben that is. For Ben, I think that too much is no better than not enough. We had Sid that never want sex and now we have Ben that does only that. At least, when he was a guest, he had a social life with others. Now he has none. He had few guys that showed up and they played board game. Other than that, we never see him elsewhere. Other than fucking Whitney (and others) 4 or 5 times a day, he seems to have no other interest. So fewer and fewer members are watching them as we know exactly what will happen and how it will happen. Agree totally with your points and just to give a little bit more 1st: i would say it's related with the big arguing with the managers (zoi&tim) the day jerar left.. They must have told her.. or you fuck or you leave... day after she received a guy from nowhere (that later visit patrik&clair with another girl) to fuck her twice 2nd: not even whitney.. she no longer visit clair&patrik. Only remember her leaving for a while when the usual brunette was there to do the fuck show with ben Also saw two girls there twice that the main purpose of the visit is going to the hidden division.. then minutes later they leave. And finally an important thing that "translate" what this house means.... total absence of personal stuff there.. nothing... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenCoudon Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Simply look at Lexy & Pete They don't fuck 5 times a day, every day. Lexy, by far, doesn't have the perfect body that Whitney has. Peter doesn't have the monster cock that Ben has nor he doesn't have the athletic body that Ben has. But they attract more viewers. Simply because they are more natural. they have fun, they have friends, they laugh often. And, when they have sex, it is not scripted. They are pleasant to watch because you never know what will happen in the next minute. I like to watch a woman that has sex because she likes sex. Not a barbie that has limited interest in sex but does it just to have viewers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, BenCoudon said: Simply look at Lexy & Pete They don't fuck 5 times a day, every day. Lexy, by far, doesn't have the perfect body that Whitney has. Peter doesn't have the monster cock that Ben has nor he doesn't have the athletic body that Ben has. But they attract more viewers. Simply because they are more natural. they have fun, they have friends, they laugh often. And, when they have sex, it is not scripted. They are pleasant to watch because you never know what will happen in the next minute. I like to watch a woman that has sex because she likes sex. Not a barbie that has limited interest in sex but does it just to have viewers. I don't watch them.. but i totally understand what you are saying that differs ones from others. That's why i'm against "porno houses/staged shows" here at VH and that number have increased in the last months (not weeks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenCoudon Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sparkles said: I don't watch them.. but i totally understand what you are saying that differs ones from others. That's why i'm against "porno houses/staged shows" here at VH and that number have increased in the last months (not weeks) Not sure what those voyeurs sites will look line in a year or two. One may remember with RLC, they had 4 apartments. When VV started, they had only 2 RLC start to increase the number of apartment to stay ahead of VV. Then VH, Camarad and may be others. In total, there is about 80 apartments competing for the same client base. We already saw lots of changes. From a basic couple apartment, it moved to 2 or 3 couples apartments, then we had all girls, gay and bisex participants. We saw no sex apartments (remember Gary, Dora and others?). Now we have Chaturbate apartments. What is next? I don't think that adding more and more apartment is the solution. There are apartments in VH that came and went and I never noticed them. Very few people would even have the time to have a peek in all of them every day. But it seems that "normal" couple, such as Grace and Jacob or Alice & Pavel are history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, BenCoudon said: Not sure what those voyeurs sites will look line in a year or two. One may remember with RLC, they had 4 apartments. When VV started, they had only 2 RLC start to increase the number of apartment to stay ahead of VV. Then VH, Camarad and may be others. In total, there is about 80 apartments competing for the same client base. We already saw lots of changes. From a basic couple apartment, it moved to 2 or 3 couples apartments, then we had all girls, gay and bisex participants. We saw no sex apartments (remember Gary, Dora and others?). Now we have Chaturbate apartments. What is next? I don't think that adding more and more apartment is the solution. There are apartments in VH that came and went and I never noticed them. Very few people would even have the time to have a peek in all of them every day. But it seems that "normal" couple, such as Grace and Jacob or Alice & Pavel are history. 80 and almost half of it are at VH.. In december 22 there was 20 house at VH (now 32) and in that 20 already was 3 that started that month (ary&george, viki&kate and betty&rick). Yes, almost for sure if grace&jacob belong to other manager would be in direct problems.. Like was said some months ago there will be a moment where porno will not be enough.. Things are escalating a very high speed We also already have professional sex tenants, tenants doing pov videos for advertisement.. so that may be excluded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sparkles said: In december 22 there was 20 house at VH (now 32) and in that 20 already was 3 that started that month (ary&george, viki&kate and betty&rick). Yes, almost for sure if grace&jacob belong to other manager would be in direct problems.. Like was said some months ago there will be a moment where porno will not be enough.. Things are escalating a very high speed The turn over rate for apartments should be an eye opener for anyone who thinks there's no big deal about having too many apartments, except of course for VH because they don't care one way or another. Look at the competitor RLC: they've been around since 2013 and in that time they have had a total of 66 apartments. VH hasn't even been around for a full 2 years and they already have a total of 69. Most people barely last more than a few months on VH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 And just wondering why there is a big gap between realm numbers.. From 37 goes to 46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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