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il y a 2 minutes, letsdothis a dit :

I wholeheartedly disagree with that sentiment. No parent should ever
meddle in the lives of their grown children. Love them? Yes. Care about
them? Sure. But, offer advice only if it's asked for and never, ever with
the expectation or obligation that it be followed. There's nothing worse
than a nosey, manipulative, controlling, know-it-all parent or parent in-law.
And, if that's the problem here, Stas should tell her to mind her own
business. It's their life to live. It's not for anyone else to tell them how they
should live it. JMHO.

Your post arrived while I was writing mine. I quite agree.

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24 minutes ago, dh2995 said:

Your post arrived while I was writing mine. I quite agree.

My mother died a few years ago. In the first years of my marriage, I had experienced similar things. I still feel remorse for my words and deeds that I told my mother in the past.
Okay, they're adults. but this is for us. they are still a child for their mother, even if they are 50 years old. Balance is very important. For all three!
If the debate was over last night, Clara could leave the house and not return. You can change your lover, you can fall in love with another girl again. But you can't change your mother. The same goes for Clara's mother.
I understand you. Including letsdothis. but this is also about the culture of the geography where you live. And although the place where they live seems close to Europe, it is not far from the eastern culture.
sometimes small earthquakes are good. prevents the occurrence of larger earthquakes.

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7 hours ago, alt0na_O7 said:

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I strongly agree! I too lost my mother and felt remorse for my choice of words, and your right about culture. It includes knowledge, belief, art, morals, law, custom and any other capabilities and habits acquired by man as a member of society. IMO, hard times are good in their way too. Because the only way anyone can achieve true happiness is if they experience true sadness as well. It's all about light and shade. Look for a reason to laugh, is necessary. A sense of humor helps you both get through the dull times, cope with the difficult times, enjoy the good times and manage the scary times. Today, people look at a person, based on their appearance or the way they are talking or acting, we immediately become a magistrate. The crazy thing is, we have no right to do so. Thanks for the share as always! 

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2 hours ago, ipiratemedia said:

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I strongly agree! I too lost my mother and felt remorse for my choice of words, and your right about culture. It includes knowledge, belief, art, morals, law, custom and any other capabilities and habits acquired by man as a member of society. IMO, hard times are good in their way too. Because the only way anyone can achieve true happiness is if they experience true sadness as well. It's all about light and shade. Look for a reason to laugh, is necessary. A sense of humor helps you both get through the dull times, cope with the difficult times, enjoy the good times and manage the scary times. Today, people look at a person, based on their appearance or the way they are talking or acting, we immediately become a magistrate. The crazy thing is, we have no right to do so. Thanks for the share as always! 

You've written such beautiful things. I'm so relieved. Nice Cuban guy. Thanks

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9 hours ago, alt0na_O7 said:

My mother died a few years ago. In the first years of my marriage, I had experienced similar things. I still feel remorse for my words and deeds that I told my mother in the past.
Okay, they're adults. but this is for us. they are still a child for their mother, even if they are 50 years old. Balance is very important. For all three!
If the debate was over last night, Clara could leave the house and not return. You can change your lover, you can fall in love with another girl again. But you can't change your mother. The same goes for Clara's mother.
I understand you. Including letsdothis. but this is also about the culture of the geography where you live. And although the place where they live seems close to Europe, it is not far from the eastern culture.
sometimes small earthquakes are good. prevents the occurrence of larger earthquakes.

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I'm, so sorry about the loss of your mom, Alt0na. That is a tough thing
to live through, especially if there were words said that you regret.

It's very true, you're always going to be someone's child, even if they
are no longer with you. That's why I said a parent's responsibility is
to love and care about their adult children and not to interfere in
how they live their lives. That makes for a balance, not only between
the parents and the partners, but between the partners, as well.

I agree, you can't change your biological mother. And I didn't mean
that Stas should angrily tell his mom to butt out of their lives and
run the risk of alienating her. There are gentle, tactful, diplomatic
ways to deal with these situations.

On the other hand, if you usually or frequently side with your parent
over your partner's wishes, that creates a great deal of tension,
bitterness and resentment all around. And, as a result, you may find
yourself changing lovers over and over and over, until you realize
what the real problem is and do something to fix it.

You're so right about some countries and cultures placing a high
value on family. That can be a good thing. I still believe, though,
that parents need to realize when it's no longer appropriate for
them to be involved with how their children live their lives.

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Il y a 1 heure, letsdothis a dit :

I'm, so sorry about the loss of your mom, Alt0na. That is a tough thing
to live through, especially if there were words said that you regret.

It's very true, you're always going to be someone's child, even if they
are no longer with you. That's why I said a parent's responsibility is
to love and care about their adult children and not to interfere in
how they live their lives. That makes for a balance, not only between
the parents and the partners, but between the partners, as well.

I agree, you can't change your biological mother. And I didn't mean
that Stas should angrily tell his mom to butt out of their lives and
run the risk of alienating her. There are gentle, tactful, diplomatic
ways to deal with these situations.

On the other hand, if you usually or frequently side with your parent
over your partner's wishes, that creates a great deal of tension,
bitterness and resentment all around. And, as a result, you may find
yourself changing lovers over and over and over, until you realize
what the real problem is and do something to fix it.

You're so right about some countries and cultures placing a high
value on family. That can be a good thing. I still believe, though,
that parents need to realize when it's no longer appropriate for
them to be involved with how their children live their lives.

I couldn't have said better that this, Alt0na. Like many people, I myself can feel sorry for all that I may have (not) said to my parents, once they were gone, and I can understand and thus share your feelings.  

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25 minutes ago, miscvoyeur said:

The entirety of VH twitter is total BS.

bold: learn a new word 🙂

I wouldn't say the totality, but agree with a big part of it (but some of the bad tweets are also responsibility of tenants BS) .. And with the pre show advertisement all get even worse 

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