HarleyFatboy Posted February 28, 2020 Author Share Posted February 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Amy3 said: Of course these are all porn sites. There was a no question about that. The primary focus for the overwhelming majority of viewers and subscribers is about some form of sex. BUT!!!! The issue is not really that. The issue is, what is voyeurism in the spectrum of the sex industry? What does it mean to host a voyeur site? I’ll try to make this very simple, because it is simple. The point of a voyeur site is to provide a glimpse into the real lives of people in their real homes. The job of the voyeur tenant is to behave as if the cams were not there at all. That is, what voyeurism is supposed to be is the essentially a fly on the wall experience and it is the duty of the site and the tenants to uphold this standard. What VHTV did is derail voyeurism into a live action porn where the tenants MUST cater to the cams for sheer survival. The cams are ever present in the minds of the tenants, not because of their existence but because of their earning potential. VHTV’s pay for views model undercuts the entire premise of what voyeurism is supposed to be about. As a result of their success, it has placed a tremendous amount of pressure on the competition to either follow suit or fade into oblivion. It will continue to progress this way because the tenants will need to do more and more to service the growing number of porno type subscribers who really have no idea what voyeurism is and they just want to see live action amateur sex in the best conditions possible. They will never be satisfied and their appetite will demand more and more good views, likely to end with POV cam work not really any different than Chaturbate. VHTV management is the only thing standing in the way and they have their hand on the spigot, releasing more fake camporn everyday out of greed and the need to sustain itself and not lose the vast number of porno subs they already have. This is why it has become so freaking boring. Who wants to follow the life of a voyeur camstars as they live through the gauntlet of a earn or die sex life under the thumb of a sex thug landlord manager who has ends to meet? The forums are dried up because there’s really nothing worth talking about. How many threads are there that talk about the daily life of CB cam whores? None! Why? Because it would be an utterly pointless waste of time. VHTV ruined voyeurism! Never forget that! Amen Amy...well said!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG 150 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 14 hours ago, HarleyFatboy said: TBG 150, I don't care about them being whores, prostitutes, escorts, porn actors, or drug heads. What I really shouldn't care about is what it's doing to RLC. I really liked RLC in the beginning but now it just plain sucks!! A person can see all of what RLC has become all over the internet!! I know prostitution is everywhere, hell...I even know where there is several city blocks filled with it. That is not my point in this whole matter, not even close!! I get out and see the real world more than most TBG, today is just a bad day for me health wise and that's the only reason i've been on CC for so long today. Have a good evening! I liked RLC in the beginning too! It had it's good moments and it's boring ones. I first found them in the early part of 2013. I found CC also, while on the hunt for REAL voyeur stuff. There used to be a few decent sites out there but, they fell by the wayside. Either the participants didn't like being on cam all the time or CP laws dictated they shut down certain or all cams when underage children were in the houses. I barely have time to look at what I need to be looking at this time of year. Let alone sit and watch RLC or any of the others. Even my time here is very limited. Life's demands take precedence at all times over sitting at my desk here. And the last thing I'm going to do is have a phone in my face all day. Yeah, get older sucks. You're no young punk and neither am I. The way the world is today, I'm glad I'll be stepping off in the not too distant future. Now life pulls me away again. It just started to rain and the dog just had to be in the backyard chasing the rain drops. Now he comes into my office and shakes all over just sharing the love. I have to go get a towel now and dry everything off. Silly mutt!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrow Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Not porn sites lol. Sounds about as fucked up as the RLC ultras that say VHTV is hardcore porn compared to RLC, and nothing but staged sex shows. And they watch the Barcelona apartments. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleyFatboy Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 On 2/29/2020 at 4:44 AM, TBG 150 said: I liked RLC in the beginning too! It had it's good moments and it's boring ones. I first found them in the early part of 2013. I found CC also, while on the hunt for REAL voyeur stuff. There used to be a few decent sites out there but, they fell by the wayside. Either the participants didn't like being on cam all the time or CP laws dictated they shut down certain or all cams when underage children were in the houses. I barely have time to look at what I need to be looking at this time of year. Let alone sit and watch RLC or any of the others. Even my time here is very limited. Life's demands take precedence at all times over sitting at my desk here. And the last thing I'm going to do is have a phone in my face all day. Yeah, get older sucks. You're no young punk and neither am I. The way the world is today, I'm glad I'll be stepping off in the not too distant future. Now life pulls me away again. It just started to rain and the dog just had to be in the backyard chasing the rain drops. Now he comes into my office and shakes all over just sharing the love. I have to go get a towel now and dry everything off. Silly mutt!! What's up TBG, I just got home from a very exhausting weekend of making sausage. All together I think we ended up with 1,460 lbs. Approximately 1,200 lbs. of smoked link and 260 lbs. of breakfast sausage or what we call pan sausage. We also made some deer burger and ground chili meat. I'm bushed to say the least! Yes sir, I'm afraid the good old days of RLC are LONG GONE! I also first subscribed to them 2012 and like you said, there was some good events along with the boring ones for sure. Getting older does suck!! I'm not sure when i'll leave this cruel world but i hope it's for awhile yet. However, the way i've been feeling lately, only god knows! Pet's are great aren't they? I'm sure you weren't to happy having to clean up your "silly mutt's" mess but I'm willing to bet he's your best friend and it didn't bother you a bit lol. Have a good one TBG! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calle Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Having read all the comments on porn sites vs. voyeur sites, I have come to the conclusion that a voyeur site is an impossible concept. On RLC and other comparable sites the tenants know about cameras, they know that they are watched. That does not serve voyeurism. A voyeur wants to get sexual experiences by watching other people without them knowing. For a real voyeur, it is arousing to see women stripping or showering or couples having sex so that they have no idea you are watching, maybe even taking a video of such sights. It is not arousing to see artificial acted "sex" between Barcelona girls, those leftovers, who are not very beautiful. It is not quite logical that watching people and taking videos of them in secret is illegal and can be punished hard, even though the objects do not know about this crime and are thus not harmed (OK, I confess it is not ethical/moral.) But it is legal to watch RLC, even though the tenants there will have life-long consequenses of that "project" as they will be known as porn stars for the rest of their lives. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slender Man Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, Calle said: Having read all the comments on porn sites vs. voyeur sites, I have come to the conclusion that a voyeur site is an impossible concept. On RLC and other comparable sites the tenants know about cameras, they know that they are watched. That does not serve voyeurism. A voyeur wants to get sexual experiences by watching other people without them knowing. For a real voyeur, it is arousing to see women stripping or showering or couples having sex so that they have no idea you are watching, maybe even taking a video of such sights. It is not arousing to see artificial acted "sex" between Barcelona girls, those leftovers, who are not very beautiful. It is not quite logical that watching people and taking videos of them in secret is illegal and can be punished hard, even though the objects do not know about this crime and are thus not harmed (OK, I confess it is not ethical/moral.) But it is legal to watch RLC, even though the tenants there will have life-long consequenses of that "project" as they will be known as porn stars for the rest of their lives. Question is how many think about after it or really care. I'm sure for most it's easy money and their 15mins of fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calle Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Slender Man said: Question is how many think about after it or really care. I'm sure for most it's easy money and their 15mins of fame. I agree, these people do not think about future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG 150 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 And what happens to ANY of them, will have '0' effect on your life. Agreed or not? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleyFatboy Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 4 hours ago, TBG 150 said: And what happens to ANY of them, will have '0' effect on your life. Agreed or not? Unfortunately I agree but it's still fucking SAD!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleyFatboy Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 I wonder what the girls of "The Best Little Whorehouse" in Barcelona have cooked up for all their desperate viewers this evening. They've certainly had a long time to plan it out if they're not too tired from their orgy off camera! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG 150 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, HarleyFatboy said: I wonder what the girls of "The Best Little Whorehouse" in Barcelona have cooked up for all their desperate viewers this evening. They've certainly had a long time to plan it out if their not too tired from their orgy off camera! Please tell me that you really don't waste your time watching that scripted bullshit. 😑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleyFatboy Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, TBG 150 said: Please tell me that you really don't waste your time watching that scripted bullshit. 😑 I don't waste my money or my time watching that scripted bullshit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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