Jump to content

US General Domestic Politics #9 Begin 10/01/20


Recommended Posts

All lies from our political leaders, should be cited, and explained in context. That means Hillary, up to Donald, Nancy, etc. They're all rich people, incidentally. I'm in need of a few more acorns.

They are entitled to their political expressions, but not to their actions. Any action to violate the Bill of Rights as stated in the Constitution of the United states will lead to:

1) Trashing of their attics by squirrels.

2) Radiator hoses on their BMWs will destroyed.

3) Their bird feeders will be emptied.

4) and probably a bunch more mischief that I'm not interested in living through.

 

 

  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, O_U812 said:

Cheating liberals my fucking ass.

Bill Barr is setting the stage to interfere in the election — and set a "dangerous" precedent

 
 
Alex Henderson
Sat, October 10, 2020, 2:56 AM PDT
 
 
Bill Barr, Donald Trump and an electoral map of the USA
Bill Barr, Donald Trump and an electoral map of the USA

Bill Barr, Donald Trump and an electoral map of the USA Photo illustration by Salon/Getty Images

U.S. Attorney General William Barr, one of President Donald Trump's most aggressive loyalists in Washington, D.C., has joined the president in claiming that mail-in voting encourages voter fraud. Reporter Jerry Lambe, in an article published by Law & Crime on October 7, discusses some of the reactions that legal experts have had to Barr's comments — noting that some of them believe he is setting a troubling precedent by interfering in an election.

Citing reporting from ProPublica, Lambe explains that the U.S. Department of Justice has "advised U.S. attorneys' offices that a longstanding policy prohibiting the Department from interfering in U.S. elections will no longer preclude prosecutors who suspect election fraud from taking public investigative steps, even in the hours before polls close on November 3."

The DOJ's Public Integrity Section, according to Lambe, sent out an e-mail on Friday, October 2 announcing an "exception to the general non-interference policy" if a U.S. attorney suspects fraud involving postal workers or employees of the U.S. military. That exception, the e-mail said, applies to circumstances in which "the integrity of any component of the federal government is implicated by election offenses within the scope of the policy, including, but not limited, to misconduct by federal officials or employees administering an aspect of the voting process through the United States Postal Service, the Department of Defense or any other federal department or agency."

 

During an interview with the Chicago Tribune in September, Barr claimed that voting by mail would encourage the "business of selling and buying votes."

Barr's critics are arguing that it is wildly inappropriate for him to interfere in an election. Attorney Daniel Goldman, who advised House Democrats during the impeachment inquiries against Trump, tweeted, "Every DOJ prosecutor and agent must remember that they represent the United States of America, not Bill Barr or Donald Trump. There is no place in our system of justice for the DOJ to interfere in elections, which this policy change is designed to do."

Justin Levitt, a professor at Loyola Law School and a former deputy assistant attorney general in the DOJ's civil rights division, described Barr's actions as "profoundly counterproductive." And attorney Matthew Miller, a security analyst for MSNBC, slammed the exception as a "dangerous foreshadowing of what Barr has planned."

Yeah, the dangerous precedent will be enforcing the law instead of protecting criminals like Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch did.:cool:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Ridgerunner said:

Yeah, the dangerous precedent will be enforcing the law instead of protecting criminals like Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch did.:cool:

Wrong again...He'll be too busy trying to steal the election for Trump.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sensible people know who's doing the cheating.  
 

California Republicans are allegedly setting up fake 'official' drop-off boxes to harvest ballots

 
 
Peter Weber
Mon, October 12, 2020, 12:35 AM EDT
 
 
fcbefaa0fbbc1687c2ae694924eb2bba

California Secretary of State Alex Padilla's office has received complains about what appear to be unauthorized ballot drop boxes in Los Angels, Orange, and Fresno counties, and it appears from social media posts that California Republicans have set them up to collect ballots, The Orange County Register reported Sunday night. The metal boxes, which purport to be "official," have been reported at local political party offices, churches, and headquarters for GOP candidates.

"Operating unofficial ballot drop boxes — especially those misrepresented as official drop boxes — is not just misleading to voters, it's a violation of state law," Padilla said, and a felony condition would land perpetrators in prison for two to four years. County elections officials and registrars are solely empowered to set up and maintain drop boxes in accordance with strict state security rules.

The California Republican Party did not response to the Register's requests for comments, nor did individual GOP operatives who have implicated themselves on social media. But the state GOP has "been defending the practice in replies on Twitter, alleging the process was made legal under a 2016 law that allows California voters to designate a person to return their ballot for them," the Register reports. "The GOP calls the practice 'ballot harvesting' and blames it for losses to the Democrats in OC and other places in 2018." State officials say unauthorized drop boxes would violate that law since there's no designated person to sign for the ballot, as required.

Slate judiciary staff writer Joseph Stern sees something a little more nefarious than just trying to make it more convenient for Republicans to vote. "California Republicans are allegedly creating fake drop boxes and tricking voters into depositing their ballots in them," he tweeted. "Apparently they're trying to prove voter fraud is real by committing actual election fraud."

 

Republicans in Texas, Ohio, and other states are currently fighting to limit ballot drop boxes to one per county. Republicans in Southern California are trying to win back a slate of congressional seats they lost in the 2018 midterms. And if they are using fake official drop boxes, they are breaking the law, Orange County Registrar of Voters Neal Kelley said Sunday. "It would be like me installing a mailbox out on the corner — the post office is the one that installs mailboxes."

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Republi-cons now they're losing bad, thus the cheating:

Judge again blocks restrictions on ballot drop boxes in Ohio

This Saturday, March 14, 2020 file photo, shows a view of a ballot box on a counter prepared for early voting at the Warren County Board of Elections, in Lebanon, Ohio. Ohio and Republican groups including the Trump campaign are defending a GOP election chief's directive limiting ballot drop boxes in the critical presidential battleground to one per county. (AP Photo/Aaron Doster, File)
This Saturday, March 14, 2020 file photo, shows a view of a ballot box on a counter prepared for early voting at the Warren County Board of Elections, in Lebanon, Ohio. Ohio and Republican groups including the Trump campaign are defending a GOP election chief's directive limiting ballot drop boxes in the critical presidential battleground to one per county. (AP Photo/Aaron Doster, File) More
 
JULIE CARR SMYTH
Thu, October 8, 2020, 11:51 AM EDT
 
 

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — A federal judge on Thursday temporarily blocked an order by Ohio's elections chief that limits the number of ballot drop boxes available in next month's election, calling the move “essential to vindicate a vital constitutional right.”

Republican Secretary of State Frank LaRose moved immediately to appeal.

U.S. District Judge Dan Polster's decision marked the second time in recent weeks that a court has ruled against LaRose's directive restricting ballot drop boxes to a single location in each county in the presidential battleground state.

A voting rights group keen on expanding access to the boxes — which voters see as an attractive option amid concerns about Postal Service cuts and the coronavirus pandemic, and which are often sought by urban, more Democratic-leaning counties — had asked Wednesday for Polster to reopen its case after LaRose said the judge's ruling was “expressly contrary” to LaRose's intent.

 

Polster, based in Cleveland, had dismissed the A. Philip Randolph Institute's case Tuesday because he said a clarification LaRose issued to his one-box-per-county order now permitted ballot drop boxes at multiple locations within a county. That was what the institute's lawsuit had been seeking.

But LaRose's office argued that by allowing drop boxes “outside” boards of elections, his new directive was meant to restrict them to board property just outside the building — not to allow them off site.

Polster said in reopening the case Thursday that LaRose's definition appeared arbitrary.

“It appears the Secretary has arbitrarily drawn the ‘outside’ boundary somewhere beyond a board’s premises but not as far as a library a few miles away,” he wrote. “This leaves the Court and the boards with no working definition of where ‘outside’ collection is permissible.”

Polster's original order said the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections could move forward with its plan under LaRose's clarified order to set up ballot drop boxes at six public libraries scattered around the county, which is home to Cleveland. But lawyers for LaRose immediately ordered the county not to proceed.

Three courts have now scolded LaRose for the original drop box directive, calling it unreasonable and arbitrary. A state appellate court made clear he had the authority to remedy the order under law.

LaRose and his Republican allies in the case, including President Donald Trump's reelection campaign and the Republican National Committee, argue that Ohio voters have ample opportunities to vote, including being able to deliver absentee ballots by mail or in person.

“Voting has begun, and Ohio's elections are safe, secure and accessible,” LaRose spokeswoman Maggie Sheehan said in a text message Thursday. “The place to make changes in how we run our elections is the Statehouse, not the courthouse.”

Polster said defenders of the directive “gloss over the risks and obstacles that those options present under today’s unprecedented conditions.”

Jen Miller, executive director of the League of Women Voters of Ohio, said now that both state and federal courts have ruled against the order, LaRose should relent and begin working with Ohio’s 88 county boards to add more drop boxes.

“We applaud the judge’s ruling, because multiple, satellite drop boxes provide better access for voters in rural and suburban areas as well as senior citizens, voters with disabilities, and those without reliable transportation,” she said in a statement.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, O_U812 said:

Sensible people know who's doing the cheating.  
 

California Republicans are allegedly setting up fake 'official' drop-off boxes to harvest ballots

 
 
Peter Weber
Mon, October 12, 2020, 12:35 AM EDT
 
 
fcbefaa0fbbc1687c2ae694924eb2bba

And if they are using fake official drop boxes, they are breaking the law, Orange County Registrar of Voters Neal Kelley said Sunday. "It would be like me installing a mailbox out on the corner — the post office is the one that installs mailboxes."

That is funny, because on our mail route, the postal customers had to buy and install their own mail boxes---

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
×
×
  • Create New...