Martina and Alberto - home activities #32

[Nenemoh7]

we just have to read one ddhm post a day

[Nenemoh7]

16 minutes ago, ddhm said:

Things are quite simple , here are the suggestions according to what we see and experiencing the last year or so .. 

 

1) Nelly loves Martina ( I don’t think it is this much as how people here think , in my opinion it is like Martina is for Nelly her only real friend as she has zero social life since being in this foreign country , no motivation  , no plans , nothing for the future except making money by being part of RLC and doing nothing apart from sleeping , waking up , eating and fucking Bogdan when she needs dick and try to seduce Martina when she needs pussy ) in such a way that if she wants more there’s only one solution since Bogdan has been crystal clear . Divorce Bogdan and flirt Martina and try to divorce her from Alberto , that Martina clearly wants to be with him , and live happily ever after …. Only to be bored with her after 5-6 years as she is bored now with her husband. 
 

2 ) Martina loves Nelly ( that I also highly don’t believe so , if she did , she would move mountains and oceans to try and have her all for herself . She is confused being between her big love of her life Alberto and a current passion with expiration date - it will all be over when N&B return back in Russia and attend their business there ) but the big obstacle of Bogdan and her guilts towards him ,  being the person who infiltrated the married  life of a couple , and also to Alberto as she’s clearly using him - despite his continuous approval for all of Martina’s actions - because he has chose the path of silence and not opposing any decision of Martina , I can’t believe that he isn’t “ egoist “ enough “ to also demand and require things from her . After 10 years together , allowing your GF to have sex on your bed that you sleep with the woman you love , I am sorry , this is too much for a man to accept , it is like you approve you are the second in line and you are there exactly as Bogdan is , to provide dick fuck , male company / friendship and trust so as not feeling alone at times .. 

3) Bogdan loves Nelly incredibly much that he is blind of whatever actions Nelly is playing behind his back . In comparison to Nelly , he has a big role and job in Barcelona , something that gives him motivation and purpose to be in this foreign for him country , make more and more money as days pass by , amongst everything , he tries to keep equal and fair distance from anyone involved and appearing  on the cameras world , in my opinion , such a good guy that he can be considered a loser and weak character allowing all this and not doing anything for his own  pleasure  but just trying to keep everyone  around happy and his wife the happiest .. a “hero”  who is being taken advantage of the others . 
 

4) Alberto loves Martina in such a way that he has found a woman that he believes by giving him the total freedom that she ( hasn’t to be honest ) asks , everyday he is allowing to be presented with an image that he has no choice due to his lifestyle to accept all demands ( that have never been ) by Martina , he isn’t searching for a job as RLC ( and Martina’s stories provide enough for a living ) , he has accepted his role being the guy that will always be like the best friend of Martina and the one she will always search in case of emergency . He knows easily that Martina will always go back to him no matter what because he was / is / will always be the absolute one to trust and seek shelter after each adventure . Being sure that the woman you share the life with the last 10 years , it gives you absolute control so to define and control the relationship in comparison to what the majority believes , that is Martina being the one that handles this relationship .. pure mistake , Martina actually needs Alberto in her life so much more ( emotionally , friendly and so on ) than Alberto needs Martina ( apart from work , he will be able to survive emotionally easily if Martina tells him “ hasta la prossima “ one day ) 

 

The conclusion is that this is a quartet without any future simply  because both men except their own routine life have no interest to other women and their love / erotical / sexual life is satisfied by these two women and they seek nothing more than both of them to be near them . This will go on and on till one day a big and unforgiven thing will happen and it will all collapse .. and the persons who will pay the price and understand their mistakes during this  period and ultimately reflect on them , will be the two women who experience the maximum of feelings and emotions , Nelly and Martina .. life is fair and brings balance , the extreme smiles will balance it in the future with sadness and disappointment when both men finally wake up , revolutionize and say “ that’s it , no more “ ( that I hope it never happens ) 

to me the conclusion is rlc should send nelly and bogdan back to mother russia

[ddhm]

5 minutes ago, Nenemoh7 said:

we just have to read one ddhm post a day

This is when it is too warm at the sea and female company is resting 😂🤣

[ddhm]

3 minutes ago, Nenemoh7 said:

to me the conclusion is rlc should send nelly and bogdan back to mother russia

We agree till the last sentence and word 🤓

[JenniferMom]

18 minutes ago, DWI said:

  I think all three of you have made some very insightful remarks here. I basically agree with everything you all saw last night. Here is my additional take on what happened in the backyard last night. I was moved emotionally. To me, I think these two ladies are still deeply in love with each other still. The genuine tenderness was a beutiful thing thing to watch. There was no sex, but the long hugs and gentle kissing was as real as it gets. I am both happy and sad at the same time for both women. I am happy because for the first time in a while they were able to break through the sexual tension since they stopped having sex together but still sad for them that for some reason the sexual aspect has been put on hold. What I do know is that their love for each other is real and not a "staged" event. More and more I'm leaning toward the belief that Bogdan was involved in the sexual curtailment of their love-making. I do know that last night was as "real" as it gets on RLC. This is the type of thing RLC needs desperatly. In some ways it was as sensual as them having sex...sometimes showing genuine tenderness and emotion between people that love each other can be just as nice to watch. Once again thank you three for your excellent posts.

Thank you DWI (a screen name that is a little disturbing and hope doesn't represent you based on what a DWI means to me). 

I was going to add to my earlier post another thought.  We talked about "friendship" and "sex" as important emotions but the other aspect of yesterday -- that you touch on -- is INTIMACY.  

Yesterday we saw Martina and Nelly being very intimate, not in a sexual way.  This is a strong need, especially for women.  Two times were very special ... once when Martina seemed upset as she was painting and Nelly came and put her arms around her to comfort her. [Translators:  What was she upset about?]  And then of course the entire patio discussion which included a lot of embracing and tender kissing.  This is strong evidence of their connection ... a connection that they don't necessarily get from their men.  Alberto for sure, I don't think ever comforts and consoles Martina.  I could be wrong and ask the group to challenge me on this.  But I remember even when she was struggling with her knee pain, I don't recall Alberto coming over and hugging, etc.,  He listened and I assume he listened empathically, but you did not see any real intimacy.  He does care about Martina but you do not see a lot of empathy and intimacy.  Some guys are like that, I get it.

Bogdan does a bit better in this regard, especially when Nelly is drunk or needs special attention.  But Nelly seems a "tougher personality" to me and not necessarily needing empathy and caring as much as Martina seems to need it.  And Bogdan should worry less about Nelly getting sexual satisfaction from Martina and worry more about Martina meeting Nelly's intimacy needs.

Anyway, don't need to see textbook emoji's ala DD so I will cut it off now.  My thoughts on this are not well organized beyond just the idea that girls treasure the kind of intimacy we saw yesterday.

[ddhm]

16 minutes ago, maxfactor said:

Why don't you be Nelly's friend, since you seem to have none either and loads of time to write endlessly on here about he lives of people you don't even know.  

I observe and read carefully , lifestyle and things here allow for it .. I have an opinion and I share it when I could simply speak insults , not respectful and with comments that would show jealousy .. it’s s forum and this is what it has been created for , so as people to log in and post their thoughts .. what are you doing here since you find everything and everyone miserable and lonely ? Why do you log in to read other peoples thoughts and at times communicate your thoughts by posting ? 

[JenniferMom]

32 minutes ago, ddhm said:

The extreme smiles will balance it in the future with sadness and disappointment when both men finally wake up , revolutionize and say “ that’s it , no more “ ( that I hope it never happens ) 

I'm kinda agreeing with the group my friend, you could have summarized your entire post with just the part I clipped above.  I have said and many of us have said that if Bogdan is so upset, he needs to leave Nelly, not keep fucking her.  He is weak in this regard.  And if Alberto wants to keep Martina, he needs to step up his game and show it to her.

 

[girlsfun]

4 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

Thank you DWI (a screen name that is a little disturbing and hope doesn't represent you based on what a DWI means to me). 

I was going to add to my earlier post another thought.  We talked about "friendship" and "sex" as important emotions but the other aspect of yesterday -- that you touch on -- is INTIMACY.  

Yesterday we saw Martina and Nelly being very intimate, not in a sexual way.  This is a strong need, especially for women.  Two times were very special ... once when Martina seemed upset as she was painting and Nelly came and put her arms around her to comfort her. [Translators:  What was she upset about?]  And then of course the entire patio discussion which included a lot of embracing and tender kissing.  This is strong evidence of their connection ... a connection that they don't necessarily get from their men.  Alberto for sure, I don't think ever comforts and consoles Martina.  I could be wrong and ask the group to challenge me on this.  But I remember even when she was struggling with her knee pain, I don't recall Alberto coming over and hugging, etc.,  He listened and I assume he listened empathically, but you did not see any real intimacy.  He does care about Martina but you do not see a lot of empathy and intimacy.  Some guys are like that, I get it.

Bogdan does a bit better in this regard, especially when Nelly is drunk or needs special attention.  But Nelly seems a "tougher personality" to me and not necessarily needing empathy and caring as much as Martina seems to need it.  And Bogdan should worry less about Nelly getting sexual satisfaction from Martina and worry more about Martina meeting Nelly's intimacy needs.

Anyway, don't need to see textbook emoji's ala DD so I will cut it off now.  My thoughts on this are not well organized beyond just the idea that girls treasure the kind of intimacy we saw yesterday.

you are exactly right about the level of intimacy of those 2 couples. And about the "sexual way" it is now happening outside the RLC, I'm sure on that. We are not living in a monastery here . Thank again JenniferMom ! Love you.

[girlsfun]

40 minutes ago, ddhm said:

Things are quite simple , here are the suggestions according to what we see and experiencing the last year or so .. 

 

1) Nelly loves Martina ( I don’t think it is this much as how people here think , in my opinion it is like Martina is for Nelly her only real friend as she has zero social life since being in this foreign country , no motivation  , no plans , nothing for the future except making money by being part of RLC and doing nothing apart from sleeping , waking up , eating and fucking Bogdan when she needs dick and try to seduce Martina when she needs pussy ) in such a way that if she wants more there’s only one solution since Bogdan has been crystal clear . Divorce Bogdan and flirt Martina and try to divorce her from Alberto , that Martina clearly wants to be with him , and live happily ever after …. Only to be bored with her after 5-6 years as she is bored now with her husband. 
 

2 ) Martina loves Nelly ( that I also highly don’t believe so , if she did , she would move mountains and oceans to try and have her all for herself . She is confused being between her big love of her life Alberto and a current passion with expiration date - it will all be over when N&B return back in Russia and attend their business there ) but the big obstacle of Bogdan and her guilts towards him ,  being the person who infiltrated the married  life of a couple , and also to Alberto as she’s clearly using him - despite his continuous approval for all of Martina’s actions - because he has chose the path of silence and not opposing any decision of Martina , I can’t believe that he isn’t “ egoist “ enough “ to also demand and require things from her . After 10 years together , allowing your GF to have sex on your bed that you sleep with the woman you love , I am sorry , this is too much for a man to accept , it is like you approve you are the second in line and you are there exactly as Bogdan is , to provide dick fuck , male company / friendship and trust so as not feeling alone at times .. 

3) Bogdan loves Nelly incredibly much that he is blind of whatever actions Nelly is playing behind his back . In comparison to Nelly , he has a big role and job in Barcelona , something that gives him motivation and purpose to be in this foreign for him country , make more and more money as days pass by , amongst everything , he tries to keep equal and fair distance from anyone involved and appearing  on the cameras world , in my opinion , such a good guy that he can be considered a loser and weak character allowing all this and not doing anything for his own  pleasure  but just trying to keep everyone  around happy and his wife the happiest .. a “hero”  who is being taken advantage of the others . 
 

4) Alberto loves Martina in such a way that he has found a woman that he believes by giving him the total freedom that she ( hasn’t to be honest ) asks , everyday he is allowing to be presented with an image that he has no choice due to his lifestyle to accept all demands ( that have never been ) by Martina , he isn’t searching for a job as RLC ( and Martina’s stories provide enough for a living ) , he has accepted his role being the guy that will always be like the best friend of Martina and the one she will always search in case of emergency . He knows easily that Martina will always go back to him no matter what because he was / is / will always be the absolute one to trust and seek shelter after each adventure . Being sure that the woman you share the life with the last 10 years , it gives you absolute control so to define and control the relationship in comparison to what the majority believes , that is Martina being the one that handles this relationship .. pure mistake , Martina actually needs Alberto in her life so much more ( emotionally , friendly and so on ) than Alberto needs Martina ( apart from work , he will be able to survive emotionally easily if Martina tells him “ hasta la prossima “ one day ) 

 

The conclusion is that this is a quartet without any future simply  because both men except their own routine life have no interest to other women and their love / erotical / sexual life is satisfied by these two women and they seek nothing more than both of them to be near them . This will go on and on till one day a big and unforgiven thing will happen and it will all collapse .. and the persons who will pay the price and understand their mistakes during this  period and ultimately reflect on them , will be the two women who experience the maximum of feelings and emotions , Nelly and Martina .. life is fair and brings balance , the extreme smiles will balance it in the future with sadness and disappointment when both men finally wake up , revolutionize and say “ that’s it , no more “ ( that I hope it never happens ) 

yes my dear @DDHM, you have it right, this is exactly the way I understand it. 

[ddhm]

10 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

I'm kinda agreeing with the group my friend, you could have summarized your entire post with just the part I clipped above.  I have said and many of us have said that if Bogdan is so upset, he needs to leave Nelly, not keep fucking her.  He is weak in this regard.  And if Alberto wants to keep Martina, he needs to step up his game and show it to her.

 

In order for the conclusion to be understood , the review needs to be provided 😂🤣 .. there are more things we , all of us don’t know , in the personal lives of these four people , this is when all four of them are away of the cameras and we don’t know what they are up to .. nobody knows what Alberto and Bogdan and Nelly and Martina do while not on cameras .. but life needs romantic moments outside , a dinner , a walk by the beach , a visit to the fun fair , an afternoon by the lake with wine , snacks , smiles , hugs and talks .. are they doing things like this ? Or the cameras exposure and feeling  “ stars “ by being watched by thousands have made them lose simple human actions and moments ? 
 

This is a fairy tale or a Hollywood love story scenario but - sorry to say - the end won’t be satisfactory for at least one or more .. the men will survive because they have been surviving with all these things happening behind their back or in total knowledge of them .. but the girls ? Who is there for them if they lose their men ( especially Nelly she is a complete lonely woman in Barcelona without Bogdan , Martina is a native , she can always go back to mother and brother ) .. 

[JenniferMom]

7 minutes ago, girlsfun said:

And about the "sexual way" it is now happening outside the RLC, I'm sure on that.

I am one of the foremost "IF I DO NOT SEE IT I DO NOT BELIEVE IT" types here; however, I am willing to accept that if everything we know is true ... Martina and Nelly are not having sex off cam.  Yes I see your point ... and I would not be surprised if they are having sex off cam ... but they do seem to genuinely be trying to not have sex so I can accept they are trying to abstain off cam too.  We will never know of course.  But generally, once an "affair" is exposed, it is much much more difficult to hide it from a spouse.

[girlsfun]

1 minute ago, girlsfun said:

yes my dear @DDHM, you have it right, this is exactly the way I understand it. 

And Martina is very, very lucky to have Alberto, she will have a lot of trouble to find another man that accept her 'life', that why she is showing so much love and affection to Alberto despite all other thing about Alberto. She know that she found in Alberto the freedom she need, she is bright !