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B4 - General Topic 2023 #75 (December)


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39 minutes ago, amiya.ifrit013 said:

Sono sinceramente curioso di sapere come sei arrivato a queste conclusioni. Inoltre prima hai risposto al mio post chiedendomi se è stato dopo la conversazione che hanno avuto a letto venerdì sera, se l'hanno finita allora, o qualcosa del genere. Non ho mai detto nulla del genere e non ho visto alcuna prova di ciò, come ho sottolineato in un post precedente. Immagino che molto si perda nella traduzione. 

Sono anche sinceramente curioso di sapere cosa ti ha fatto credere che fosse Massimo, quando ovviamente non lo era.

On page 29 of the previous tread you write ... "Example: Friday night, Karma sleeps in Sara's bed, but they don't have sex, but instead have a somewhat existential conversation. Bottom line, oh, they broke up or moved away. Forget that which happened in the kitchen around 2.09am:"... The 30th (Friday) is the night after Sara's engagement so I thought this but from what you say I think the translator made a mistake. Convinced it was Massimo because I was seeing someone with the beard and the hood as he usually wears, and at the beginning Sara asked some things that had happened in the villa. Then they greeted each other in Italian "goodnight love"

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9 minutes ago, poncherello said:

On page 29 of the previous tread you write ... "Example: Friday night, Karma sleeps in Sara's bed, but they don't have sex, but instead have a somewhat existential conversation. Bottom line, oh, they broke up or moved away. Forget that which happened in the kitchen around 2.09am:"... The 30th (Friday) is the night after Sara's engagement so I thought this but from what you say I think the translator made a mistake. Convinced it was Massimo because I was seeing someone with the beard and the hood as he usually wears, and at the beginning Sara asked some things that had happened in the villa. Then they greeted each other in Italian "goodnight love"

That could be the guy all tattooed that we saw with her for 2 days and with whom she had sex previously: he is also Italian.

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8 minutes ago, poncherello said:

He had a beard that I saw

I didn't see or hear the phone call, but Amiya said very decisively that he wasn't Massimo, so I thought he was her Italian "boyfriend". Evidently he will be another Italian boy or she said "buonanotte amore" to him because it is an Italian phrase that she likes (I also often use common phrases in another language)

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14 minutes ago, Boing said:

Non ho visto né sentito la telefonata, ma Amiya ha detto con molta decisione che non era Massimo, quindi ho pensato che fosse il suo "fidanzato" italiano. Evidentemente sarà un altro ragazzo italiano oppure lei gli ha detto "buonanotte amore" perché è una frase italiana che le piace (io uso spesso anche frasi comuni in un'altra lingua)

It could be, I have neither reason nor truth in my pocket

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3 hours ago, poncherello said:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I don't see rot, I see people doing something that I agree with, that I accept, that I disapprove but I don't allow myself to judge. The rot comes out of the pen of many posts indicating these shows as cheating, mockery, fake, whores, perverts and so on and so forth. I don't remember everything

Seth Meyers Omg GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyerswhew, my bad, I misunderstood lol

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7 hours ago, Lasse said:

It is strange why Daytona doesn't use the bath/shower in the penthouse when he almost has moved in there.

not strange, he knows that in full light there is only a man to be seen, for the same reason his hair always hangs in front of his face

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Il y a 8 heures, Boing a dit :

That could be the guy all tattooed that we saw with her for 2 days and with whom she had sex previously: he is also Italian.

Wasn't him either, besides, I believe she has distanced himself from that guy for now, if we are to believe what she said to Massimo the other night in the kitchen (right before Karma gave him a nice burn when he said something like "I thought I was pushing the right buttons" and Karma instantly replied "you aren't pushing any buttons")

So far we have gathered that up to recently, there were 3 people in Sara's life with whom she was intimate with simultaneously. 

1. Obviously Karma, with whom she seems to share most of her personal life with, personal feelings and thoughts and finds tranquility with her.

2. The guy from last week, who she clearly had a strong bond with beyond just physical. I believe he said in passing that he was British (given his accent I would believe that), but he seems fluent in Italian. I think it would be best to describe their relationship as two people with similar addictions and issues, who found each other and could be fully open about their issues without judgement from each other, and actually found support in each other.

3. The guy we have heard her on facetime with. This is the guy that she was discussing the whole civil partnership with (I don't know the outcome of that, if that is still ongoing, resolved, or abandoned, I don't follow every single conversation of everyone). This is guy that seems determined to not come to the Villa, I don't know how much he knows about what goes on there. I also strongly believe he doesn't know about the other two. Sara mentioned to Lacrim's friend about telling her "boyfriend" about Karma but didn't know how, but I'm not sure if she meant this guy or the moustache guy and then later decided on telling moustache guy, hence we saw them in bed together. Many here concluded she was just using this guy for the visa, but conversations and mannerism seem to make me believe that it is more than that.

To me it seems clear that Sara is polyamorous. She can love different people in different ways. Karma brings her intimacy on a spiritual and mental level. Moustache guy was a love based on mutual hard times, addiction and most likely more physical intimacy. And the third guy seems to play a more supportive role, to a degree a provider, and seems to be a relationship based more on the feeling of stability. 

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1 hour ago, amiya.ifrit013 said:

Karma instantly replied "you aren't pushing any buttons"

Good catch. She is not alone in that view on Massivemo.

If mustache guy is British (Gibraltar perhaps), with a very conservative view on sex,

it makes sense he didn't like Massimo's porn show in the living room.

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