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56 minutes ago, Epikouros said:

So, not "demonstrably" untrue, then.

Still "demonstrably" true. To think RLC has no control over who they allow on their own streams is just ridiculous, imo. If you want to think otherwise, you are free to do so. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Epikouros said:

Not really practicable imo... And would also kill the spontaneity of some guests. Also a hassle for someone just dropping by.

But i always understood guests have to be told about the cams by their hosts, and tenants are not allowed to bring in or host minors.

Though at a barbecue or other public gathering or with other family members (mom/family visiting) around it probably couldn't do much harm anyway (just like an ex-tenant carrying her newborn baby & showing it to her friends imo), but they have to be careful... You can get (metaphorically) crucified for less...

Spain does have some strict laws regarding cameras on sites like this that capture  but maybe there is not much enforcement. Things like not capturing neighbours in them and requiring signs. Just google it and you see.

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6 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

Many years ago under previous ownership all visitors did have to do exactly this. Nina and Kira had a friend over and they all got drunk together and then engaged in a threesome. The girl then sued RLC stating she was NOT informed of the cams of the fact they recorded in the dark

If I'm not mistaken after the law suit many of the doors to the apartments would have signs stuck on them indicating the presence of cams. You could see them when there was a hall cam that picked up a open door that swung inwards

👍 I just finished reading on google about the requirement to post signs. Lol. 

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8 minutes ago, Maxbell said:

Spain does have some strict laws regarding cameras on sites like this that capture  but maybe there is not much enforcement. Things like not capturing neighbours in them and requiring signs. Just google it and you see.

There was a guy on XCF years ago. He is a American life time service member that married a gal from Barcelona. He told me that it is illegal for anyone to record peoples houses and businesses privately on the outside. What is done inside everyone that enters MUST be informed of the cams. If a cop sees a tourist taking pics around houses and businesses they will ask you to delete them in front of them. If you don't comply they will take the memory card, camera or arrest you. They dont mess around when it comes to a persons privacy

Posted
7 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd 🤔

Haha…they are supposed to 

  • Public Awareness:
    It's mandatory to display clear signage indicating that video surveillance is in operation, and the signs should include details about where individuals can request access to their footage or have it deleted if it includes them. 
    Spanish regulations govern the processing of images captured by surveillance systems.
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Posted
50 minutes ago, Epikouros said:

Not really practicable imo... And would also kill the spontaneity of some guests. Also a hassle for someone just dropping by.

But i always understood guests have to be told about the cams by their hosts, and tenants are not allowed to bring in or host minors.

Though at a barbecue or other public gathering or with other family members (mom/family visiting) around it probably couldn't do much harm anyway (just like an ex-tenant carrying her newborn baby & showing it to her friends imo), but they have to be careful... You can get (metaphorically) crucified for less...

I mostly agree, but I really believe that there is a hard and fast rule about minors entering any of the RLC apartments.

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il y a 50 minutes, Captain Kangaroo a dit :

Many years ago under previous ownership all visitors did have to do exactly this. Nina and Kira had a friend over and they all got drunk together and then engaged in a threesome. The girl then sued RLC stating she was NOT informed of the cams or the fact they recorded in the dark

If I'm not mistaken after the law suit many of the doors to the apartments would have signs stuck on them indicating the presence of cams. You could see them when there was a hall cam that picked up a open door that swung inwards

What happened to Nina and Kira, did they get sacked from the project for not telling the guest about cams, as that sounds like a serious breach of the rules regarding those tenants. 

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il y a 52 minutes, miscvoyeur a dit :

Still "demonstrably" true. To think RLC has no control over who they allow on their own streams is just ridiculous, imo. If you want to think otherwise, you are free to do so. 

They can try to exert some control (ie explaining the "rules" while signing the contract), but them having absolute control is what's ridiculous imo.

If a tenant picks up someone at a club downtown and bring them home, RLC has zero control on who appears on the streams.

Of course the tenants are expected to tell their guests about the cams and not bring minors in (and indeed, possibly neither some blacklisted people if such a list exists and they know about it), but that's it.

You'll have to "demonstrate" otherwise to convince me, or it's not "demonstrably" true, but just in your opinion (which may be correct, but no one knows for sure, so not "demonstrably" 😉)

I usually agree with you on other subjects by the way, but i'm not sure you used "demonstrably" in the correct context here.

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