snaky Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 If I didn't feel used before by VV, now I really feel used. I have to think about my priorities in wanting to get fucked over by these people. I feel like a masochist. I've got to find some other things to do other than this crap. I like all you people and love the interaction, but I am beginning to hate this shit! Well, if you're gonna get that hysterical about every little harmless play time or hump session that doesn't lead to full sex, then don't let the door hit your arse on the way out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 Snaky, that is only my speculation, I know, about pregnancy or abortion. Who knows? But, someone else had speculated also on the pregnancy angle, and now she has a health issue. Her moodiness is incredible even by her standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 I don't know, tallguy, what is real anymore on this site. It looked faked to me. Other people here have complained in the past about faked shows, not just me. Especially with the girl on girl or some of Ivo's shit at times (though now his stuff with Sonia is real, he cums on her). And I don't think complaining to VV would do any good. They would probably think, good it worked, they are hooked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 One last thing on this. As spielo said, this was cinema fantasico! What a grand show! They should have taken bows afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewarp Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 It will be interesting to see if this site lasts, but not for any of the reasons speculated about here. If VV is demanding that people coming into the program have sex as they script or describe then they must have a different legal status. If the threat of eviction is held over these young men and women's heads then how are the VV management any different than pimps? I know that people feel differently but whenever I see people posting that "these people owe us ....this and that" my first thought is that these people don't owe you shit except to be there and live. VV may feel differently but my opinion of them is pretty low. They act like juveniles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 I don't think they owe us, but I don't like being led on and teased (I suppose Akira could feel that way, had they not agreed in advance to what they did). Imagine if a girl did that to you. Well, that is what VV did to us. I guess I deserve it because I wanted a sex show (but not a fake one). And you might not be wrong timewarp about this site. I have no idea how legal it is under russian law. It does feel as if there are obvious demands and expectations by VV towards the participants. However, I am not a prude. I am not abashed to admit I want to see sex here. Of course, only if it is consensual and voluntary. And this site is not rlc. If you think that on this site they just live their spontaneous lives and we have or should have no impact or influence over what they are doing, then you are deluding yourself. VV responds to every complaint by tacking here, tacking there. Shows are planned, games are planned. You know what is not planned? When they started playing ball and other games in Voro tonight. That was spontaneous. Julia and Gavin having a fight this morning. That was spontaneous. Akira and Natasha doing a fake fuck, planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I know that people feel differently but whenever I see people posting that "these people owe us ....this and that" my first thought is that these people don't owe you shit except to be there and live. Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewarp Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I guess I live in a different universe. I have to confess, even if I did spend all night watching these people, I can't imagine having my night ruined. I was going to continue that sentence but I will stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 Maybe you are right, timewarp. When I read my fiction books or watch my fiction shows or movies, I get into them like I was there in the story. It is called escaping. I am a passionate person so when I express myself it is a bit dramatic and flowery. It is just my nature. I admit that when I escape, I really get into the experience of it. I know it is not reality and I can separate from it, but I actually let myself experience the emotions of it. There are much worse escapes in life. There is drinking, smoking, drugs, overeating, cheating on your significant others, midlife crises. I don't do any of these. So this escape is much less bad. But, I know that you can be harmed a bit psychologically by letting your emotions go way up and down artificially. That is my issue. So, I have to for my own good, not get into the experience too deeply, try to take away some of the emotional roller coaster. If I can't do that, and I will try a little longer to do that, then I must separate myself from that. The problem is I get a little addicted to the experience. I must be stronger. I recently lost 55 pounds, knocked my diabetes type 2 back almost to normal levels, have been working out with a trainer at a gym. I have a wife, three grown kids (four if you count my son in law), was a successful lawyer, generally have a happy life. I can either control this or I have to kick it out as I have done other things in my life. And one other thing. This isn't just about sex. I watched porn for years. I see plenty of sex. It is the voyeuristic experience that has me hooked. I suspect others are as well. Oh, and I like most of you guys, even those who disagree with my statements. Camcaps is kind of an addiction as well. I do appreciate your earlier efforts, timewarp. I resisted it because addicted people always do. I don't think like you, suspect we have had different lives, have different personalities, but we are both human beings worthy of respect. And I did listen to you even if I was upset. I have always had the philosophy that you can learn things even from those you disagree with. I am an open, honest person and I treat people with respect. So, in short, as long as you are respectful with me, I will always listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natres Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I missed that one, has been working at night, it wasn't very good, as far as I can tell, I'm not surprised, forcing a binary yarattıar, 5 a.m., He spoiled girl in the Tan that you would expect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yadevol Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Did anyone see what happened this morning. I saw Akira in Tver but he has now gone out and Natascha and Julia were gone when I looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewarp Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I have mentioned that I have spent my life in a tech career. My unused degrees, however are in developmental psychology. While I have never practiced and I try very hard not to analyze people, you present an obvious and glaring question. With regard to this topic of escapism which you return to and have written extensively about, you have what sounds like a pretty comfortable life. So what then are you trying to escape from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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