jabbath1987 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Chip2020 said: Sorry Amy, but I don't condone violence. What I'm saying is that what you consider violence is only your opinion, based on your cultural norms, religious upbringing and experience. I happen to share the same opinions about violence as you do, but I do not judge people from other cultures that conform to a different social structure than I do. I don't eat with my hands, pick my nose or act aggressively toward other people, but as you may have noticed, some people from some European countries do all these things and more. I haven't seen anybody physically injured in VH-TV apartments, so I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and not label their social conduct as "violent" even though I acknowledge that such behavior is unacceptable in the U.S. If you slap your wife in the U.S. and she calls the police, you're likely to go to jail. In many parts of Russia, the police would ask if she deserved it and if so, don't leave marks next time. If you find this type of thing offensive (and I'm definitely not a fan either), you have the option of not watching it, but you don't have the ability to change it. Their culture is shared amongst themselves, not you (or me) and they don't seem to have a problem with it. When it comes to the "rough stuff", they each seem to give as much as they get (both the men and the women). I see no victims here, but I immediately stop watching when there are physical altercations on camera, until things quiet down and I can resume watching. I recommend that you do the same. During my travels through Africa, I witnessed many tribal customs and "rites of passage" that you would have been appalled to see had you been there. As disturbing as these things were, I never judged them or characterized them as "violent" people. Their actions were all based on their own cultural and religious beliefs, not mine. By the way, many Europeans believe that circumcision, (commonly performed in the U.S.) is a violent assault on innocent babies who cannot give consent to such a procedure. To agree with that opinion, one would have to label many American parents as violent offenders. I say, "to each their own" and "Judge not, lest ye be judged". Yes in my opinion its child abuse. Doing it witout medial indication is just religious bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sr71gn Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Chip2020 said: Sorry Amy, but I don't condone violence. What I'm saying is that what you consider violence is only your opinion, based on your cultural norms, religious upbringing and experience. I happen to share the same opinions about violence as you do, but I do not judge people from other cultures that conform to a different social structure than I do. I don't eat with my hands, pick my nose or act aggressively toward other people, but as you may have noticed, some people from some European countries do all these things and more. I haven't seen anybody physically injured in VH-TV apartments, so I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and not label their social conduct as "violent" even though I acknowledge that such behavior is unacceptable in the U.S. If you slap your wife in the U.S. and she calls the police, you're likely to go to jail. In many parts of Russia, the police would ask if she deserved it and if so, don't leave marks next time. If you find this type of thing offensive (and I'm definitely not a fan either), you have the option of not watching it, but you don't have the ability to change it. Their culture is shared amongst themselves, not you (or me) and they don't seem to have a problem with it. When it comes to the "rough stuff", they each seem to give as much as they get (both the men and the women). I see no victims here, but I immediately stop watching when there are physical altercations on camera, until things quiet down and I can resume watching. I recommend that you do the same. During my travels through Africa, I witnessed many tribal customs and "rites of passage" that you would have been appalled to see had you been there. As disturbing as these things were, I never judged them or characterized them as "violent" people. Their actions were all based on their own cultural and religious beliefs, not mine. By the way, many Europeans believe that circumcision, (commonly performed in the U.S.) is a violent assault on innocent babies who cannot give consent to such a procedure. To agree with that opinion, one would have to label many American parents as violent offenders. I say, "to each their own" and "Judge not, lest ye be judged". Excuse me but what kind of kool aide have you been drinking--Africans are not a violent people???????????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip2020 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Just now, jabbath1987 said: Yes in my opinion its child abuse. Doing it witout medial indication is just religious bullshit. Exactly! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip2020 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Just now, sr71gn said: Excuse me but what kind of kool aide have you been drinking--Africans are not a violent people???????????? That's what I just said... Africans ARE NOT violent people. Read what I wrote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 1 minute ago, sr71gn said: Excuse me but what kind of kool aide have you been drinking--Africans are not a violent people???????????? I guess they are not more violent as other people. Why do you think you are better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsichtbarer Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Just now, jabbath1987 said: I guess they are not more violent as other people. Why do you think you are better? Because he has a gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Just now, Unsichtbarer said: Because he has a gun Our superhero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sr71gn Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Just now, jabbath1987 said: I guess they are not more violent as other people. Why do you think you are better? Do a little research--they slaughter hundreds of thousands of their own people in Africa ---Look at stats on Chicago usa-- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sr71gn Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Just now, jabbath1987 said: Our superhero You talk like child Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Just now, sr71gn said: Do a little research--they slaughter hundreds of thousands of their own people in Africa ---Look at stats on Chicago usa-- What did the Americans do to the native Americans? What did the Americans do to civillians in Vietnam? Should I go on? No ones better or worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsichtbarer Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Just now, sr71gn said: You talk like child Come on, don't be a dick. Having a gun is just hard to get for us Germans. Almost everyone can buy a gun in the US, while they would put you into jail when your knife is too long here. There are differences between the cultures and that's a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, sr71gn said: You talk like child Nope like a grown adult who does not need a gun to solve conflicts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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