Howard

Unless you heard her specifically say (or someone else say), within the walls of the apartment she is without child, how do you know it's fact? I'll speculate that she is w/o child, assuming she would be a loving mother, based on her occupancy in the apartment.

That's different Pepe. You're making a speculation that, without your knowledge, turned to be fact. You intent was not to reveal an outside activity that you had no knowledge of.

The Moderator Lords has spoken. Speculation is OK to discuss. Facts/knowledge of outside activities, no bueno. That's what I've been sayin'. Thank you Squirrely. 😄

You wont let it go Pepe. I gave you the out that we will have to agree to disagree. I stand by my previous three posts, which includes that CC and RLC are two separate entities, negating your interpretation that SPECULATING what they do outside the apartment is the same as if it is factual.

The purpose of the wording is the assumption one would know, factually, what they do outside the apartment. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO OUTSIDE THE APARTMENT. Anyone who knows, factually, what they do outside the apartment, indeed it shouldn't be discussed. That is the intent of the words in red. What would be factually known. To speculate does not fall under this policy. To speculate Leora goes to a gym, or a bar, or to a salon, or blows men for $20 behind the neighborhood bodego - that's speculation. Nothing factual about what I just said unless I have knowledge she does any of those things. For those who don't have a legal background, this discussion falls under the purpose of "intent". Intent is a subjective state of mind that usually accompanies knowledge. As we don't have knowledge what goes on outside the apartment, speculation would be permissible.

Again, READ the rules you posted. CC doesn't host the apartments. Nothing factual is being posted in any forum regarding outside activities. Much of the content in any post is speculation (inside or outside the apartments). Where does it say speculation (not factual content) isn't allowed? I interpret nothing in the rules stating otherwise. We'll have to respectfully agree to disagree.

CC doesn't host the apartments. CC provides a forum to discuss their lives. CC and RLC are two separate entities that have no legal binds (as far as I know). If CC was a subsidiary of RLC, this rule might be applicable. Think of CC like a news outlet reporting (discussing) the political administration in your favorite democratic country. Another position is we don't know what they do outside the apartment. Therefore, since what would be said is not factual but speculative, this rule does not apply.

Everyone's perception of these two feeling each other out is different. Is it forced? Well, not really. But I'm confident they received a 'memo' from RLC how to spice up the channel. I do think Malia is more willing then Leora to take it to the next level. But for it to go there, it's Leora's decision to make. *IF* I was Malia and I wanted to go to the next level, a few minutes after a rubdown, when Leora is a bit more relaxed, is the time to bring out a dildo and use it gently on her to... That will get Leora's transmission into overdrive.

Since nobody has first hand knowledge of their lives OUTSIDE the apartment, there's no harm in speculating. Speculating, in part, is no different then those oogling either girl and fantasizing of being with them. Or trying to understand why Leora cried (or is upset) after a phone call she had with someone we do not know of. There has always been lots of Monday morning quarterbacking regarding what goes on INSIDE the apartment. No reason the game can't be played speculating what happens OUTSIDE the apartment. Personally, I think Leora's trips outside are for typical household items, and maybe something similar to a gym membership. I doubt she has a job outside the apartment. I'd hope she socializes (maybe goes to a church gathering, a bar, see an outdoor concert). *I* don't think she's developed a skill that would enable her to survive on her own (i.e. secretarial skills, cooking, etc). After all these years, I haven't seen her apply any skills inside the apartment that she might use professionally to earn an honest rubel (other then housekeeping). Come to think of it, if she wears a French maid uniform and becomes a professional housekeeper,....

I don't frequent this apartment. But I concur she did seem sick last week. Also, there was a day that both slept on the couch.

There's nothing 'lesbian' gong on. It's a performance. Soft porn without the porn (the porn comes later when they are alone in their bedrooms). As I write this, no insertion of any kind has occurred in another's orifice. Think bad acting or a scripted reality show for TV.

When these cams first came on (before RLC's existence), they were pure voyeur. Participants were rarely playing for the camera. They never acknowledged their existence. They went about their day and we would be the fortunate ones to peek in. It wasn't only about sex. Much of the voyeur experience had to do with watching the participant's behavior, their social interactions, etc. I brought up JenniCam a week ago. Jenni rarely had sex on camera. What made her the pioneer was she showed the public either how similar (or different) her college life was to the voyeur. With that said, I recall about 3 years ago, when many thought we were watching Leora being 'natural,... She was in the guest room, door closed, We thought Paul was sleeping in the living room while she was having a good bate on the sofa. Her back was towards the camera, her ass in clear view. She just started to orgasm when Paul, w/o knocking on the guest room door, walks in. Leora is 3 seconds into her orgasm and Paul, by opening the door (and then shutting it quickly with Leora's help), gave up the ghost. That was a 'jump the shark' moment. Most thought she was being naughty, always bating behind Paul's back (or when he was away), when he was in on it!! Most every guy's voyeur fantasy came to a screeching halt when he acknowledged he knew.....Leora was his money-maker. (it has always been staged) While my priority watching any cam is for the behavioral/social interaction, and sex being secondary, since that day, the fantasy has been ruined. I see Leora as a porn actress - everything is staged (and if you're still in doubt, don't think for one second the Malia/Leora massages occur because they discovered they are naturally attracted to each other). If you can stay in that fantasy, knowing her actions (just about everything but cooking and laundry), is choreographed, power to you. That fantasy/escapism is OK as long as you know the difference from reality.

Grrr.. tried linking a pic w/o success. Oh well...

Malia would go to the other side. You can tell that she can be persuaded. Leora, not so much. Maybe if Malia had one of Leora's dildos to use (that might take away some of Leora's protective guard as her mind might be more relaxed using a 'familiar' tool). But still, doubtful.

Leora needs a dude in her life. Someone she can have an emotional attachment with. Unfortunately, she's in this rut of parading in lingerie, waking up mid-day, and bating on cam. Anyone remember JenniCam? She was one of the very first, if not the first, internet cam girl portraying her daily life. Whether cooking in the kitchen or having sex with her boyfriend. Nothing staged. Jenni quit the 'cam' (because she realized it impeded personal growth). Leora has been on cam for several years. For the OGs (going back to the days of that rust color couch and closet that was called a kitchen/dining area), have you seen significant personal growth from Leora? Several years of almost daily hoochie massage and the only growth we've seen from her is moving into larger apartments. RLC is holding her back. If she reads the forums (as many of you say she does), hopefully this post will be a wake up call for her. Thirty is around the corner and what does she have to show for it? Just my opinion/observation.

Good points! I forgot she liked to paint and dress up dolls. She also doesn't read novels as often as she use to. Her nose is glued into watching videos on her tablet. Truth is, she has gotten boring. There needs to be a man in her life. Malia isn't the missing piece because neither are lesbians. It's one thing to experiment (they've gone as far as they will go). But having her bate nightly is just 'rinse and repeat'.

Ouch! Your words hurt me. I'm in pain inside and out,.... HYPOCRITE!

HYPOCRITE!! You came to CC to watch porn - download a video of your fantasy (from a supplied link) that will never become reality!! How moral can you (or any of us) be?! Look in the mirror, Nikky. You're as moral (and slightly perverted) as the rest of us. You need to go to the Amazon link I provided (especially for you) a few posts back....and release some of your immorality.

You can be as sympathetic and compassionate as you'd like to leora's illness (as if she's on her death bed). No matter - you still have no chance of banging her. ..and what's even just as hilarious, this is the 4th page in a thread started because Leora has the sniffles. Ya'll need to get some affection from a female. If that's not possible, start with this,...https://www.amazon.com/Loftus-International-Blow-Judy-Doll/dp/B010R6I8V4/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=inflatable+doll&qid=1599348434&sr=8-1

WTF?! She has a cold and I didn't see it as headline news on CNN? Damn - why didn't I get a text alert....an email...see a small plane in the sky pulling a sign saying Leora has a cold. Did anyone call the medics? Is it the onslaught of Covid? Is she dying??? Did anyone even have the courtesy to start a GoFundMe campaign? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!! 😄

BREAKING NEWS: I interrupt local programming to give you this breaking news: For all you dog-faced, shower-once-a-week horn dogs, there's hope for you yet. Even attractive girls like Malia are date-less and stay home on a summer evening. I now return you to your local programming.

I haven't subscribed in quite a while. How many ways can I see Leora bate? At least w/ Martina & Linda's apartment, there is more then banging. You see two couples interact and grow. Malia is there because RLC needed someone Leora can interact with (RLC knows one woman can not successfully carry a channel for long). That's why you see them lotion up each other. That goes beyond their natural comfort zone. I was surprised to see Leora get touchy-feely w/ Malia's private parts. But it didn't go beyond insertion or trying to make her wet (or did it and I'm not aware). I think the motivation to be touchy-feely came with RLC throwing some extra rubels there way.

Respect for an OG. Bite me! 😁

Thank you. Didn't know how to do it (now has been done). Now, visiting this forum will be more enjoyable. As I can now ignore his posts and it seems the Sysop hasn't a care, please Pulo, post one word for every post. That will drive the SYSOP to a sanitarium as it creates more work (and maybe he/she will do something sensible about your nonsense).

Pulo Dude - you're getting annoying. Every five minutes you write a three or four word post, flooding the thread with nonsense. SYSOP: How does one block this person from not seeing his/her posts?