Deepdave

4 hours ago, piedpiper1968 said:

Hey, pull your head out of your ass and recognize that Alberto is on this site voluntarily. He has no difficulty getting hard yet after he comes he leaves his woman laying on the bed 90% of the time to take care of herself. Occasionally he will return but not very often. I love this couple but that doesn't excuse the fact that his main interest is in himself and not with her. He's been fucking her for 10 years not just a couple of weeks. If he doesn't know what gets her off by now it is either complete ignorance or lack of caring and I vote for lack of caring.

Could I perform on camera.... hell no, but he made the decision and he doesn't seem to have any troubles. They've been on this site for almost 5 years and in that 5 years how many times has Martina had an orgasm. She had more orgasm's fucking Nelly in 9 months than Alberto in 5 years. Nelly cared about Martina's orgasm, did what she needed to do to get Martina off..... Alberto could do the same if he cared too. 

 

 

I don't know what you are watching but you need a course in statistics.  Alberto gets Martina to orgasm more than 10% of the time.  Perhaps your numbers should be the other way around.  When a man finishes an orgasm he normally deposits a nice gooey wet thing that the woman normally does not want stay with  for very long.  In addition men sweat.  Women mist.  So it may not be as comfortable after a good fuck to stayed glued to each other.  Also I think Martina is a giver, therefore she loves to give the orgasm as much as she gets the orgasm.  When she was with Nelly their lovemaking was more rolling around than actual orgasm.  The sessions looked like they lasted longer because they used to kiss a lot. That's what I saw.  Their first get together lasted the longest because it was new and exciting.  But as they saw each other their sessions got shorter and shorter.  It was harder to do something new.  Anyway I still feel that Martina and Alberto have a lot of passion for each other because their love is more than a quick flash.  They have a truer love for each other.  Martina does not have to get drunk to love Alberto.  He still gets her horny and they enjoy fucking  together.

2 hours ago, piedpiper1968 said:

He has been her lover for 10 years. He should know everything he needs to do to please her. I am one who believes the man is not responsible for the woman's orgasm, but he should do everything he can to help his lover achieve her orgasm. That includes building up stamina and mental exercises that allow him to keep his erection long enough to please his woman. My wife takes 20 - 30 minutes of sexual activity before she has an orgasm, but OMG she will go on to have 3 or 4 more. Over time I have built up the mental toughness to hold my orgasm until she has hers. Alberto has had 10 years to do this.... but he doesn't care. WTF he leaves almost after he cums. 

And for those men who have had the privilege of being inside a woman when she has a wonderful orgasm know it is well worth the wait. And by the way my wife's best orgasm come when I fuck her while she also has an anal vibrator in her ass, which is something I think Martina would enjoy. 

It is easy to brag on a forum.  Have you watched Alberto make love to Martina?  You can study his technique in about 100 replays over the years.  It looks to me that Martina enjoys herself.  Sometimes they go slow and sometimes they go fast.  It is often difficult to change your style so that it interesting to all of the RLC viewers.  I hope you could perform in front of whatever number of people are watching.  And would your wife be able to orgasm as well in front of an audience?  It's great that you and your wife are so compatible, but anyone could do that once a month (maybe I am underestimating but who knows other that you).  How about 3 or 4 times a week as Alberto and Martina are expected to perform?  Again, in front of an audience.  I am not so sure.  Sorry for being so critical but what Alberto and Martina do is not so simple.  Alberto does his best.  That is just one of the many reasons that she is still with him and I believe loves him.  

12 minutes ago, František Ńaršík said:

ked si to nepochopil tak prepač.

18 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

The above may be the most ridiculous post on RLC ever.   I am not good at not backing down.

I am very pleased that I have blocked HarleyFatboy.  I would be very pleased if he blocked me.  Thank you HarleyFatBoy

2 hours ago, JenniferMom said:

I apologize for being critical of your post.

It's obvious you care very much about them and that is really commendable.

I was going to just leave well-enough alone, but I simply can't let the above statement stand.  Do you seriously think Alberto has off-cam activities of any serious consequence?  He hardly is ever off-cam and may be one of the most on-cam people on RLC.  When he is off-cam, I think we are 99% certain he is either walking the dogs, bike riding, getting groceries, or with Martina (pretty much in that order I bet).

Anyway, sorry to be critical Deep ... I think you are one of the more honest and authentic posters here and I appreciate your views.

 

Hi Jennifer

You are of course correct about Alberto.  But Alberto's bike riding could be significant.  He is often gone most of the day and well into the evening.  Much can be done in that time.  But one other activity that Alberto spends a significant amount of time doing is using his cellphone.  I believe he is very knowledgeable about the different apps on his cell that he and Martina use to manage their RLC affairs and any other business that they are considering.  Martina's schoolwork requires her computer and every once in a while Alberto helps her with some of the apps.  I think Alberto is a smart guy and I find it hard to believe that Martina's thinks that he is just sitting around doing nothing.  It is my belief and I have not been told by anyone that something will materialize for Alberto that will surprise us all.  At least I hope so.

21 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

Harley ... I don't think ANYONE here believes any of this is "real life".  You cannot have "real life" with cameras on you 24x7.  

But I think DeepDave has a point that perhaps he has not made very succinctly.

If you look at all the apartments, most of the girls seem to just live in the apartment and do shows ... almost like a cam girl on chaturbate ... but instead of sitting in front of a desk cam, they have cams all over the house.  You do not see much  of what these girls are all about.  They clearly are here to perform for the camera.  Yes we see Holly doing some sewing and Nana on her laptop ... they have hobbies ... and they bring friends in from time to time ... but by and large, their lives all seem very staged.  The fact that they are here on 30, 90, 120 day contracts, etc. reinforces this "staged" feeling.

I think this is different for Martina & Alberto.  They seem to have a purpose in life beyond just performing on cam.  This is especially true for Martina as we have seen her study and work on some personal goals and try to live her life by partying, etc.  It seems to me that she looks at the RLC cams as just a cool way to get an apartment for free.  She is not shy and very open and doesn't care to let people see her fuck ... but to me, her purpose is not to be here to perforrm for us.   It is harder to see this with Alberto and he in fact might just be here to perform for the cash ... but if he is truly stuck in his life as a ni ni ... this could make it feel like he is a cam boy when in fact he is just stuck in life.  Both scenarios would look similar to us.  

What this tells me is that if the GOV/COV cast members are here ONLY to perform (not live their lives like the couples) ... then it's clear that they are not very good at performing.  It tells me they need to recruit more Masha-like girls to perform for us.  This would dilute their brand identity though and make RLC more of a pure porn site which is maybe why they don't do this.

The GOV apartments also perhaps are showing us that all those GIRLS GONE WILD videos are pretty much bullshit and most college spring break events are boring.  I recall a lot of my friends who went to college and went on spring break telling me that it was nothing more than pretty lame for them.  And these are girls who were sluts in high school.

I don't think any of the GOV/COV apartments have this same sort of "real life" feel.  The couples apartments have more of it and I think Martina/Alberto's apartment honors this authenticity the best.  

Anyway this is just my opinion  and you will chew my head off but so be it.

I will try to be more "succinct" in the future.  I would like to say that the "ni ni" comment is overplayed by the forum.  It was said once by Martina (if I remember correctly) and everyone has made there own interpretation of what it means.  Alberto may seem unmotivated but there are extenuating circumstances that we may not be taking into account, such as covid and his outstanding legal issue.     And he may be doing things off cam that we are not aware of.  Both Martina and Alberto seem to be happy with their situation and as I have said many times before, this makes me happy.  They live their lives the way they want and to the approval with trust and acceptance of each other. 

3 minutes ago, Noldus said:

A naked Martina plays darts with Alberto 

Maybe she wants to get fucked again after darts.  Good strategy.

9 hours ago, girlsfun said:

@Deepdave

Let's clarify 2 things and take a deep breath:
1) my intervention (line of cocaine ...) was to bring a little laughter to relax the rotten atmosphere of the last few interventions and anyone must have realized that my intervention was a fucking mixture of a story completely crazy who mixed up precisely these last interventions and that it made no sense, so there was nothing to take seriously
2) Deepdave, you love Martina very much and you have all the rights to be so (so do we!) But must not forget that we have no impact on their real life, because we do not physically exist in their real life! Yes they consult the forum because it is part of the RLC game. And of course, for many years, they have known that the forum can be a source of positive and negative judgments ... it's part of the game and they agreed to participate! Besides Alberto shows great control in the face of negative impacts and luckily, he is a great support for Martina so that she can cope with it.

And between me and you, does all this seem to stop Martina in her plans for all these years?

For me, Nelly (everybody know that I love Nelly) exist in my fantasy only and I will never have anything with her in my life. Even when I read the 'ugly Nelly', I don't mine, because it not of my fantasy.

Have great fun everybody and a lot of fantasy, we need it to survive ! 

Hi Girlsfun

Your comment was eloquent and gracious. Thanks.  I will always get upset and respond when I see posts that talk about hard drugs and fantasies that are unfounded.  I do think that Martina and Alberto read these comments and have feelings about them.  We can think that some of our comments are for the benefit of the other forum readers to excite them but this should not be at the expense of their feelings.  They do understand that there are readers that post hurtful comments and they do their best to ignore them.  I will always try to explain and support my understanding of the way they carry on their daily life.  You cannot forget that RLC is their livelihood and until they have a viable alternative they have to perform.  I believe that they perform with their true "real life".  I must admit that I love Martina (and Alberto, the dogs and the fish).  I get upset when they get upset and I am happy when they are happy. 

32 minutes ago, nagachilli2 said:

I've just watched it in great detail on magnifier...

What absolute total bollocks you're talking. I would stop now before you really embarrass yourself...Oops, too late 😏

She was cleaning her ear plugs...that green lump was an ear plug you numpty...🤪

No wonder Alberto showed little interest...So should you have...😏

Amandafan is a numpty.  I like that description for Amandafan.  Thanks Nagachilli2.  End of the great green, not brown earplug caper.

2 hours ago, girlsfun said:

with all that, it makes me want to make a line of cocaine..sorry I will be out for a while...searching for my brick of Hash also ...I'm full of energy, let do the cleaning at 1:00 am, get the dog out and some running at 3:00 am...Challenge Alberto on the x-box at 4:00 am. Hum......stop talking at the same time ! Nelly, Nelly where are you for me ? Let me do you my "puff of the puffing nipples" Martina, your next ! Wow exciting, continue guys !

What in the world are you babbling about.  Babble, babble, babble.  Please use this forum for something that makes sense.  Nothing of what you said above has any relevance to Martina.  You have said that you like Martina.  Then say nice things about her, not babble.

2 hours ago, emnv said:

I suggest you stop insulting me, buy a monthly subscription and check out the scene you are referring to using the link below. You are on time before the day is out. Think that many people can see that you have made a fool of yourself and how reliable you are, you have still time to rectify. And if you need a translation of the conversation, don't hesitate to ask for it.

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I don't think Amandafan has access to RLC Replay because Amandafan admittedly does not have a subscription or a subscription that has the ability to use Replay.  This person may have had a view of something that happened that everyone who has RLC Replay has replayed and not seen what Amandafan saw.  By the way it does not make sense that Martina brings out a plastic bag that Amandafan says is drugs.  I have never seen Martina or Alberto take drugs as some of the other participants of RLC have done openly.  Any mention of drugs in the forum has had the translators saying that this causes Martina to be very upset.  Unfounded accusations by persons like Amandafan should be ignored.

33 minutes ago, girlsfun said:

ouf ! thinking that Alberto was out to see some else, would have fuck up my scenario...

There was no scenario to fuck up.  Sorry. They are both safe and sound at home.

2 minutes ago, girlsfun said:

i'm stress, I do not see Alberto, I see the dogs, martina but no Alberto ?

I think that's so cute.  You're worried about Alberto.  I think he is in the guest room.  There is a more comfortable bed there.  He does not want to disturb Martina.  She gets a much better sleep when she sleeps alone.  He is very considerate while she is going to school.

2 hours ago, girlsfun said:

Now, like usual, she has to sleep. No time for Alberto. Every weekend 'Alberto time' is put aside. Like I write recently, Alberto is not the only one in a her life so he has to wait for his time with her because she have multiple relationships.

Alberto doesn't matter to share Martina with other one (strong affection and sex) , that what is strange to us. When you are in a true love relationship, you want to share every time with that person, no one else matters.

So Martina hasn't find it yet, she still searching....

And don't forget that Martina has a very good sex appeal and she has no trouble to attract someone in any party. We know, woman, we have that power of attraction. At a party, good looking, dress, a big smile, soft touch and the look of the eyes....so imagine yourself in a party and every body drink or smoke pot and music and Martina show off in front of you and seem interested in you, will you invite her to read the bible ? or ask yourself 'does she have a boyfriend ?' 

 

 

Sorry to say this, but your persistent comments about Martina makes me believe that it is you who would want Martina's life that you project.  Martina is not looking  for sex from outside her home.  You seem to think only of sex that you would want.  Martina wants to enjoy the Barcelona nightlife with her friends.  Martina invites Alberto to come along but that is not what Alberto enjoys.  He does not stop Martina because he knows he can trust Martina.   Although Martina does not need Alberto's approval, she always makes him aware of everything that happens before and after these nights. 

Leave her alone.  Your comments will only upset her and Alberto.  I do not understand why you persist.  Please stop and let her successfully complete school and then become successful at her chosen profession. 

23 minutes ago, girlsfun said:

To you all,

Put yourself in Martina shoe, what will you do to have fun and no one can stop you ?

If she goes and come back at almost at the same time, you never date someone in this situation ?

Imagine yourself living with someone and the other one you met is also living with someone and you and the lover 'meet' at the same time every week so as not to arouse suspicion ? 

But here Alberto know that a girl like Martina doesn't go to the church during the night dress like this. She like to party, drink and maybe smoke and she always searching for sexual pleasure. He know, because she always have to bates before, during and after he have sex with her. She always ready, him not.....      

You are amazing. You are with your lover and every weekend you are making love and then all of the sudden at almost exactly the same time you turn off your love and return home .  Now that is self control.

Think of another reason that this might happen.  Either you are with some friends and you are at a bar and the bar closes at that time and you have to go home or even better you are working at that bar and it is time to close the bar and you go home.  You do not go to your lovers place because there is no other lover except Alberto.  End of my happy story.

Just now, Deepdave said:

She did not come home until later the next day.  Very different.

And we could see what was happening - on cam!!

2 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

What evidence is there that her Friday nights (and Saturday … did she go out tonight?) are different than when she spent nights at B4 with Nelly and Megan?

She did not come home until later the next day.  Very different.

2 hours ago, JenniferMom said:

Dave … I will be the first one to agree that @girlsfun scenarios are quite a bit “out there” … but I think she challenges us to think outside the box.  Her perspectives on human behavior are quite good I find … like above when she mentions that people are creatures of habit.  You seem to think it is extremely unlikely that Martina goes out all night and parties and dances and fucks … and I am skeptical of this as well.

But as we ALL know … when things were hot and heavy with Nelly … this is EXACTLY what she did … went out, danced, got drunk, and made love.  All night long!  Without Alberto.

So for me, I do not know what she does all night … but I leave all possibilities on the table.  

But Alberto knew where Martina was, if she was out all night.   And Martina and Nelly often did their loving on cam for the benefit of the RLC viewers and the ratings.  The Friday night outings are different.  They are either Martina's night for singing and dancing (not sex) or she is working and we will probably never know exactly what's happening unless we follow her around all night (which cannot happen).

44 minutes ago, girlsfun said:

Your right. We all search in a way to be with the person that answer all our need to feel good, have good time together, respect, confidence, sexual pleasure etc (all that it really impossible). But here, what it show, Martina has only part of it with Alberto and she still searching to have someone that will answer her need. And she will find it somehow someday. And I think that would be the end with Alberto. But she will keep Alberto has a very good friend that will be always there.

I realize that you enjoy making up scenarios but really have not got a clue what they are talking about (because you do not speak their language and google translate is at best sketchy) or about what is happening off cam.  What is fact is when you see them enjoy talking to each other.  You see Martina going to school everyday and then studying when she gets home at night and then going to bed at 12 midnight with goodnight kisses to Alberto and the dogs.  Isn't it unusual that Martina religiously gets home before 8AM every Friday night and does not stay over at this fictitious boyfriend's or girlfriend's place.  If she is enjoying herself with this person so much you would think that she might slip one week.  No, her return coincides with the closing of the bars and may indicate that she is working at these bars (this has not been confirmed but is possible)

You are still dreaming that you are Martina and are putting yourself into her place and making up what you would like to see happen to yourself.

Martina and Alberto are good people.  Stop trying to ruin their relationship.  If their relationship is rocky (which I do not think is) they will either work it out or not.  But it should not be because of your weird scenarios. 

41 minutes ago, yelt said:

Their relationship seems to be rooted deep within each others soul. A part of each other forever and in each others heart.  Don't know why the relationship seems to be rocky but strong? Any thoughts they get out of RLC soon and also get married? 

I like your reasoning.  "They seem to be rocky but strong."  The old adage is opposites attract.  They seem to have different opinions in many areas but at the end they listen to each.  They talk a lot.  I often see them discussing the news, discussing what's happened to each other during the day or the night, deciding if the one wants to cook for the other, deciding how the chores around the house arel divided, loving the dogs and fish together, she talks to her mother while Alberto listens, and they respect each other when one wants to make love and the other does not necessarily want to.  I can go on and on.  Love is not only the physical one but also the mental one.  They get into an argument and they seem to know how to resolve the argument.  They are tolerant of each other. As Yelt says "they seem to be rocky but strong".  I like that.

1 hour ago, girlsfun said:

Now in the tv program "And I am making this up" , next episode: Martina met another man and he is gay. Martina try to help the man to make sure that he is gay (he is only 18 years old). She goes into a lot of "physical work" with him for long hours between 1:0 am and 7 a.m.. After those few hours, the man begin to have doubt. She ask Alberto if she can 'extend' the helping of the man. Alberto said yes and that she can bring the man home and use the bedroom if necessary, The 'helping' Martina goes into work again....until she receive a text message from Nelly that Bogdan abuse the viagra and that she need help.....episode end.     

You are a dreamer.  Your dreams are probably for yourself.  Have many more happy dreams today.

1 hour ago, chuck206 said:

Yes, she is dreaming about that tall good looking classmate she met at the school. Dark haired, well groomed, blue eyes, and a beaming smile. Fit, with a swimmers body. Easy to talk to. Interesting, captivating. He flirted a bit, playfully, and she flirted back! Can't wait to go to school tomorrow.

Hey, I'm in agreement with Deapdave, stop making shit up. 😈 

As long as she is dreaming, this guy is also a drug addict.  He beats women when they don't agree with him.  And he has a criminal record as long as your arm.  A perfect hunk of a man. And I am making this up.

1 minute ago, Deepdave said:

Just checked.  Martina is on Alberto's side of the bed.  Free cam right now.   Alberto still awake.  He should try to go to bed earlier to match Martina's sleep time.  I know he tries not to disturb Martina while she is sleeping but I think she likes when he sleeps next to her.

She is sleeping with a smile right now.

2 minutes ago, Deepdave said:

I saw what Noldus saw.  Whatever happened Alberto apologized and they spent the hour before she went to bed together.  Some people are making up stories.  Don't do that.  I am sure that Alberto will find a way to spend more time with Martina.   They do enjoy talking together and will find a way to make Martina happy.  If Martina is happy, Alberto is happy which makes me happy.

Just checked.  Martina is on Alberto's side of the bed.  Free cam right now.   Alberto still awake.  He should try to go to bed earlier to match Martina's sleep time.  I know he tries not to disturb Martina while she is sleeping but I think she likes when he sleeps next to her.

I saw what Noldus saw.  Whatever happened Alberto apologized and they spent the hour before she went to bed together.  Some people are making up stories.  Don't do that.  I am sure that Alberto will find a way to spend more time with Martina.   They do enjoy talking together and will find a way to make Martina happy.  If Martina is happy, Alberto is happy which makes me happy.

9 hours ago, chuck206 said:

Please don't jump on me!      Martina is done with Nelly  (and done with her skinny schoolmate)  I don't recall a post stating so. I was going to ask the same question.....when did this happen?

I recall the night events of Sept 24. Martina and Nelly hanging out, drinking Gin and OJ.

00:18 Happy time in bathroom, laughing. Kiss. Martina shakes head to deflect further intimacy. 

00:21 Laughing continues, till Martina shakes her head no, atmosphere changes, Nelly's demeanor changes to serious. 

00:21 Nelly gathers her purse and jacket quickly. Returns to bathroom.

00:22 Nelly joins Martina in the toilet area off cam.  ( bathroom door open, conversation taking place)

00:38 Nelly exits bathroom quickly, heads to apartment door.  Martina follows, nobody has a happy face.

00:39 Nelly out the door, Martina follows.      ( maybe the argument happened outside after this time)

01:28 Martina returns, joines Alberto on the balcony.

01:50 Martina prepares to go out.

02:10 Martina out the door, with the bottle of Gin.

08:00 Martina returns.

 

So this timeline is very clear.  You would think that if Nelly and Martina were still together they would not have left each other so quickly that evening.  There does not seem to any doubt that what Nelly tries to do is get Martina drunk and then she can try to reestablish their love affair.  But Martina does not allow this to happen.  Nelly tried to do the same thing a few weeks earlier at the villa and Martina refused to give in.  Martina wanted Nelly as a friend, not as a lover.  Nelly has proven that she cannot just be friends.

Their separation is further verified by the fact that they have not been seen together since this date.  It's possible that they have been meeting off-cam but when does Martina have time to do this.  Generally when Martina has gone partying on a Friday night we can see Nelly asleep in bed with Bogdan.  It's impossible for Nelly to be in 2 places at the same time and obviously Friday nights were a perfect time to meet, if at all.

Martina, you have a vision and it's to get an education in an area that you find interesting and enjoy.  You will do well in life. Keep up the good work!!