Thestarider

I remember a man who said, "We need to close our borders." I remember a man who said, "We need to bring our businesses home." I remember a man who said, “We need to become less dependent on other countries to survive." I remember a man who said, “We need to take care of America first!!!" Now I know all the reasons why he said those things... AND, I'll never forget those who purposely got in his way,.. Will you?

I guess I was mistaken when I thought this was European Union ? there are plenty of beds in other countries just a hop skip and jump away that all support the European Union financially, but you let the elderly die because you prioritize your healthcare, just like Brain my employee from the UK, who's mother passed away waiting for and oncologist for over 8 months..… No Thanks ed, I am not interested you can have it.

ed I believe that we control our own destiny by the decisions we make every single day. This is the reason we had the Boston Tea party !!!!

I understand it very well ed, but I don't and will never agree with it. It is the hard-working farmer who ought to have the first share of the crops. But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need. I am not aware of anywhere in this wise book to live by does it say rely on the government to take care you. "God helps those who help themselves" is correct. As an example, if you asked me to help you move a piece of furniture, but then just watched me as I moved the furniture for you, I was not actually helping you. I would be doing the work for you. Many people fall into the trap of inactivity. Many people ask their government for help, but then expect the government to do everything for them. They excuse this by pointing to the fact that government will provide according to their will and in their timing. However, this is not a reason for inactivity. As a specific example, if you are in need of a job, ask the government to help you find a job - but then be inactive in actually looking for a job. While it is in the governments power to do so, it is highly unlikely that the government will cause employers to come looking for you!

Yes they do, just ask the 80 year old Italians that are dying today, and yesterday, and will tomorrow. Not to mention Russia, China, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, and North Korea just to name a few. Wake up ed. Those all I mentioned are national universal health care systems.

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Once again let me tell you the facts, no one in the US is ever refused Medical treatment if needed if you do or do not have insurance. It is the Media BS that you all overseas hear and is not the truth. All hospitals will work out payment plans, all doctors offices will work out payment plans with those who are not insured. What you don't seem to get is that all Americans pay what is called No fault Insurance in many ways, like here in my local county that has a large regional medical center, we pay 5 mils on our property taxes, and that is to support those who do not have insurance if they should default on paying, they will still receive the medical treatments they need. We have a huge Hispanic population, and sometimes because they are not legal to be in the US they default or get the treatment they need and then bail back to Mexico which is very common, but yet the hospital never ever turns anyone away. The big difference is there are no real lengthy waiting times to get treatment in the US. Don't believe all the Media BS that you receive via CNN or the other liberal Media outlets who pray on liberal sympathies around the world, most of it is simply put just not true. Most of the uninsured in this country choose not be insured, not because they can't afford to pay premiums, but by choice, and because they are mostly the young in the work force and working part time or for minimum wage with less than 40 hours a week. A month ago there were over 7 million jobs available for fulltime employment with employer sponsored insurance, but these generation " C " young'uns want everything for free and expect that the government will give it them because they think they deserve it, instead of working hard and getting a fulltime job that provides employer assisted insurance premiums, and you can get government sponsored health insurance under the Obama Mandate that is still in place at reduced rates and is income adjusted. You see we really do have national healthcare.

No, I Have not heard anything from him.

Jabbath, I expected more from you than just being a Trump hater. News about the coronavirus outbreak that started in Wuhan, China, is changing rapidly. The respiratory infection, named COVID-19 by the World Health Organization (WHO), is closely related to SARS and MERS. The majority of cases are no longer in China, and the disease has been diagnosed in more than 100 other countries, including the United States. We'll provide the latest updates on cases, deaths, travel restrictions, and more here. Italy now has more deaths from the new coronavirus than any other country. Earlier today, Italian officials announced that 475 citizens there have died from the virus in just one day, raising the total number of deaths to 3,405. That surpasses the 3,250 deaths reported in China. In all, Italy now has 41,035 total cases, second only to China's 81,238. A new study from the Italian national health authority reports that more than 99% of those who have died from the coronavirus there had other medical problems. However, the study only looked at the backgrounds of 18% of the nearly 3,000 people who have died, which means of the estimated 536 cases investigated, 531 had a pre-existing condition. Italy has more cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus, than any country outside China. As of Thursday morning, more than 35,000 Italians were infected. For the first time since the new coronavirus outbreak began in December, China -- once the epicenter of what would become a global pandemic -- reported no new domestic cases Thursday. The National Health Commission, however reported 34 new cases, all of which were imported from outside China. It's been 81 days since the first case was announced in Wuhan, China. There have been more than 81,000 cases in China and more than 3,200 deaths there. The number of global cases has passed 220,000 according to Johns Hopkins University, which has been tracking cases worldwide. Hot spots continue to balloon across Europe and, for the first time, the virus is threatening to spread across all of Africa. In an effort to boost testing efforts across the country, Trump also said he is asking the FDA to speed up potential approval of a home test for coronavirus. “The groups are working on determining if a ‘self-swab’ by an individual is as effective as the other.” Deborah Birx, MD, White House Coraonvirus Task Force response coordinator, said getting private labs to help with testing has eased the logjam of collected specimens. It also, she warned, will likely mean a week or more of much higher numbers of confirmed cases. “Our curves will not be stable until some time next week,” she said. “With several weeks of focused action, we can turn the corner,” he said. Yet Trump also warned that the outbreak could last until "August, could be July, could be longer than that." Many schools and universities are closed, and people who can are being asked to telework. Officials also said they will reconsider the guidelines after 15 days and that they may need to be extended. The guidance came the same day Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said that the first human trials of a potential vaccine began in Seattle. Earlier this week, the Trump administration announced efforts it said will bring coronavirus testing into a new phase this week. Vice President Mike Pence said at a Sunday news briefing that more than 1.9 million tests will become available and more than 2,000 labs are ready to process them quickly. At the same time, the U.S. Public Health Service is working with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to set up drive-through and walk-up sites in all 50 states. Tests will be prioritized for health care workers, first responders, and people in the highest risk groups, including anyone over 65 years old and people with compromised immune systems. The new sites should be able to conduct 2,000 to 4,000 tests a day and will be set up on a rolling basis, officials said. They warned that the ramped up testing will cause a spike in the number of positive cases. “The worst is yet ahead for us,” said Fauci. “It is how we respond to the challenge that is going to determine what the ultimate endpoint is going to be.” While public health officials warn of more cases to come, they say that the risk to the public remains low. Data in China showed that about 80% of cases there were mild. People at higher risk of having more severe cases include those over 65 and people with underlying conditions or compromised immune systems. According to the European CDC, about 42% of the global cases are in China. More than 80,000 are confirmed outside of China in 150 countries and regions and every continent except Antarctica. Italy, Iran, and Spain are the countries with the most cases outside of China. The virus has caused more than 9,000 deaths worldwide. Italy, Iran, and Spain have the most deaths outside China.

Confirmed 14,363 Deaths 218 Recovered 121 as of this morning

No one is ever turned down from receiving medical treatment in the United States of America as long as you to need help, they will help you, no matter of finances. Don't believe the BS propaganda. America is a civilized country, what makes you think that it is not ?

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ed we have very best healthcare in the world hands down, that is why everyone in the world comes here for our healthcare system. Universal healthcare is not the answer.... My wife battled cancer for over 5 years with 3 major surgeries 2 rounds of chemo and radiation. The very first time she went to the emergency room she was diagnosed with colon cancer and went straight to surgery that day. The next day she was in recovery when her oncologist paid his first visit and outlined the plan for her recovery, and within 2 weeks from that visit she was having her first round of chemotherapy. My total payments out a 1.7 million dollar medical bill was a little over 5 thousand dollars. I currently pay 12% federal taxes and 6.5 % States and local taxes for a total of 18.5% of gross income in taxes, now you tell what is right and what is wrong. I have a employee who's mother died while waiting in Great Britain waiting to see an oncologist after being diagnosed with stage four colon cancer. It was almost nine months later and still no plan to save her life. He will tell you the universal health sucks compared to the healthcare in America.

As far as I remember the twins never ever had a head or did they give head !!!!! 😉

Naga I would jump in bed with the two Blondes in heartbeat, but I am afraid the way they act the little head would have heart failure and would quit beating rather quickly in watching them. The limpy wimpy noddle syndrome.

Monica bailed on us again my friend, so it time to lay praise on the next "M" I desire.

I am not sure she really knows what that is happy 😈

Magnificent Mysterious Malia, we are still waiting for the magic to begin. It is there burning deep within your inner most desires. I know it is just waiting to be released, and to allow that burning desire out !!!

Who is the other dark haired girl in black ?

China recasts itself as global coronavirus response leader as US, Europe struggle It's an extraordinary transformation. In a matter of weeks, Chinese President Xi Jinping and his Communist Party have apparently managed to convince the world to forget that they muzzled the coronavirus for months as it grew into what is now a global pandemic, silencing doctors and critics whose early alarms could have saved thousands of lives. Instead, the communist-run nation has now positioned itself as the country ahead of the coronavirus curve, even as they make unsubstantiated claims that the U.S. is behind the crisis. From denying its central role in unleashing the pandemic to baseless finger-pointing and finally, to casting itself as a global savior, China's makeover has been aided by a compliant media and allies such as Russia and Iran who are eager to help deflect the blame to the U.S. "Two narrative tracks that we’re seeing advanced by China is malign information trying to finger the U.S. as the origin of the coronavirus, and then the second narrative track is what we call ‘Brand China,’ which is the [Chinese government’s] effort to try and turn the crisis into a news story about the supremacy of the Chinese Communist Party as opposed to democratic systems that have allegedly mishandled the crisis,” U.S. Special Envoy Lea Gabrielle told The Washington Times. “So [it’s] basically a 'China' good, everyone else bad’ narrative.” Indeed, China has been mounting a very public -- and largely successful -- humanitarian campaign to come across as a strong world leader. It's a power move that has allowed China to take over a role the United States and Europe have dominated for decades. China's private and public sectors are working in lockstep to fast-track aid to countries that are in desperate need of it. "The Chinese government has been trying to project Chinese state power beyond its borders and establish China as a global leader, not dissimilar to what the U.S. government has been doing for the better part of a century, and the distribution of medical aid is part of that mission," Dr. Yangyang Cheng, a postdoctoral research associate at Cornell University, told The Intercept. Earlier this week, Xi pledged to send more medical experts to Italy, a country on track to surpass China in the number of coronavirus-related deaths when the numbers are tallied at the end of Thursday.

This is what is on my mind today. God Bless this great country and all those who made my life easier. It is my hope that everyone appreciate all those who gave so much so we could live such a wonderful life. I have lived a great life and I want to say thank you those who made it possible so that I would have such a good life. I talked with a man today, an 80+ year old man. I asked him if there was anything I can get him while this Coronavirus scare was gripping America. He simply smiled, looked away and said: "Let me tell you what I need! I need to believe, at some point, this country my generation fought for... I need to believe this nation we handed safely to our children and their children... I need to know this generation will quit being a bunch of sissies...that they respect what they've been given...that they've earned what others sacrificed for." I wasn't sure where the conversation was going or if it was going anywhere at all. So, I sat there, quietly observing. "You know, I was a little boy during WWII. Those were scary days. We didn't know if we were going to be speaking English, German or Japanese at the end of the war. There was no certainty, no guarantees like Americans enjoy today. And no home went without sacrifice or loss. Every house, up and down every street, had someone in harm's way. Maybe their Daddy was a soldier, maybe their son was a sailor, maybe it was an uncle. Sometimes it was the whole damn family...fathers, sons, uncles... Having someone, you love, sent off to war...it wasn't less frightening than it is today. It was scary as Hell. If anything, it was more frightening. We didn't have battle front news. We didn't have email or cellphones. You sent them away and you hoped...you prayed. You may not hear from them for months, if ever. Sometimes a mother was getting her son's letters the same day Dad was comforting her over their child's death. And we sacrificed. You couldn't buy things. Everything was rationed. You were only allowed so much milk per month, only so much bread, toilet paper. EVERYTHING was restricted for the war effort. And what you weren't using, what you didn't need, things you threw away, they were saved and sorted for the war effort. My generation was the original recycling movement in America. And we had viruses back then...serious viruses. Things like polio, measles, and such. It was nothing to walk to school and pass a house or two that was quarantined. We didn't shut down our schools. We didn't shut down our cities. We carried on, without masks, without hand sanitizer. And do you know what? We persevered. We overcame. We didn't attack our President, we came together. We rallied around the flag for the war. Thick or thin, we were in it to win. And we would lose more boys in an hour of combat than we lose in entire wars today." He slowly looked away again. Maybe I saw a small tear in the corner of his eye. Then he continued: "Today's kids don't know sacrifice. They think a sacrifice is not having coverage on their phone while they freely drive across the country. Today's kids are selfish and spoiled. In my generation, we looked out for our elders. We helped out with single moms who's husbands were either at war or dead from war. Today's kids rush the store, buying everything they can...no concern for anyone but themselves. It's shameful the way Americans behave these days. None of them deserve the sacrifices their granddads made. So, no I don't need anything. I appreciate your offer but, I know I've been through worse things than this virus. But maybe I should be asking you, what can I do to help you? Do you have enough pop to get through this, enough steak? Will you be able to survive with 113 channels on your tv?" I smiled, fighting back a tear of my own...now humbled by a man in his 80's. All I could do was thank him for the history lesson, leave my number for emergency and leave with my ego firmly tucked in my rear. I talked to a man today. A real man. An American man from an era long gone and forgotten. We will never understand the sacrifices. We will never fully earn their sacrifices. But we should work harder to learn about them..learn from them...to respect them.

Sounds like Bait Central to me.

Government official: Coronavirus vaccine trial starts Monday The first participant in the trial will receive the experimental vaccine on Monday, the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the trial has not been publicly announced yet. The National Institutes of Health is funding the trial, which is taking place at a Kaiser Permanente research facility in Washington state, the official said. Dozens of research groups around the world are racing to create a vaccine as COVID-19 cases continue to grow. Importantly, they’re pursuing different types of vaccines — shots developed from new technologies that not only are faster to produce than traditional inoculations but might prove more potent. Some researchers even aim for temporary vaccines, such as shots that might guard people’s health a month or two at a time while longer-lasting protection is developed. The worldwide outbreak has sickened more than 156,000 people and left more than 5,800 dead. The death toll in the United States is more than 50, while infections neared 3,000 across 49 states and the District of Columbia. The vast majority of people recover. According to the World Health Organization, people with mild illness recover in about two weeks, while those with more severe illness may take three weeks to six weeks to recover.