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In the US they gave New York city 70,000 doses of a Malaria drug Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine 750,000 doses of the later: has been used for years and what is call a Z-pack Anti Biotic, together there has been really good results in limited trials, so the President along with his Administration pushed all the red tape aside so this trial could start today in New York City, the worst hit in the US so far. They are getting ready to try it in other areas in the US as well. As the world's heath experts race to find treatments -- and eventually, a cure -- for the novel coronavirus, two drugs have jumped to the front of the conversation: chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. President Donald Trump has called the drugs, which are used to treat malaria and other conditions, game changers, and a rush to procure the pharmaceuticals spurred several US states to take measures to prevent shortages amid the Covid-19 pandemic. Your coronavirus questions answered New York moved to begin trials Tuesday, procuring 70,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine and 750,000 doses of chloroquine, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said. In addition Bayer, the drug maker, has donated 3 million doses of Resochin, its brand name for chloroquine, to the federal government. 'It's not going to kill anybody' The reason Trump lauds the drugs is because they've been shown, in labs, to be effective against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronaviruses -- including the SARS strain that causes Covid-19 -- as well as other coronaviruses, the CDC said. Hydroxychloroquine is being studied to determine if it can prevent the onset of Covid-19 before or after a patient is infected with the SARS coronavirus strain that causes it, and if it can be used to treat Covid-19 sufferers, the CDC said. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/health/chloroquine-hydroxycholoroquine-drugs-explained/index.html

What about Giuseppe Conti and Sergio Mattarella ? What about Pedro Sanchez ? What about Emanuel Macron and Edouard Phillipe ? What about Angela Merkle ? What about Boris Johnson ? there are many to blame other than the US for everything including our President. Lets run the numbers shall we ? United Kingdom, Spain, France, Italy, and Germany total population 320 million total # of cases 134,505 and deaths 8297 Unites States of America total population 327 million total # of cases 34,071 and deaths 431 You want to place blame then you must place it where it belongs on Communist China and how it suppressed the facts for too long, and ensuring that the virus would spread all over the world. One must never forget their goal of world dominance by 2030,

Helen Davidson in Hong Kong Fri 13 Mar 2020 02.39 EDT Jonathan Mayer, professor emeritus at the University of Washington’s department of epidemiology, said it was “entirely conceivable” there were cases as early as mid-November. We know that there are reports of early suppression of reports of cases, and the ‘whistleblowers’ dealt with rather severely. It’s widely accepted, including by the head of China’s Center for Disease Control and Prevention that the virus originated in Hubei

Official statements by the Chinese government to the World Health Organisation reported that the first confirmed case had been diagnosed on 8 December. Doctors who tried to raise the alarm with colleagues about a new disease in late December were reprimanded. Authorities did not publicly concede there was human-to-human transmission until 21 January.

BULLSHIT jabbath !!!!!!!!

This why you can not trust China, just think of how many people would be alive today if they were like all other countries in the world that don't try hide everything bad. Just think how prepared all of the other countries suffering so bad could have ramped up in preparation. This really is a China virus and yes they are most certainly responsible for what is happening around the world, let us not forget that OK !!!

First Covid-19 case happened in November, China government records show - report Earliest case detected on 17 November, weeks before authorities acknowledged new virus, says Chinese media The first case of someone suffering from Covid-19 can be traced back to 17 November, according to media reports on unpublished Chinese government data. The report, in the South China Morning Post, said Chinese authorities had identified at least 266 people who contracted the virus last year and who came under medical surveillance, and the earliest case was 17 November – weeks before authorities announced the emergence of the new virus. The Chinese government was widely criticised over attempts to cover up the outbreak in the early weeks, including crackdowns on doctors who tried to warn colleagues about a new Sars-like virus which was emerging in the city of Wuhan in Hubei province.

ed, I was on State championship debate team in high school. I enjoy a good honest discussion of differing views on a subject. I do not in any way take it personal. You are of course right, that we see things quite differently, but at the same time our goals, desires, and wants for the people of our countries are very much alike actually. ed our biggest differences are very simple. You are a firm believer in socialism, not that it is like a dictator communism socialism, but what I like to call European socialism. I am a capitolist, and a firm believer in capitalism. I believe that the harder you work and apply your skills in this world the more financial your rewards will be. I do not want my government to regulate or over tax what I have worked my entire life to achieve. I will not rely on the government to take care of me in any way, most especially in my retirement. I have paid well over $350,000 to my personal social security account. It will take me 18 years to draw that money I have paid into my account, and that will begin at age 67, and that means I would run out of what I have paid in only if I live to be 85 yrs old. I am not sure what you said about FDR is true or not, as yes he is one of many great Presidents we have had over the years. The greatest is and will always be open to debate depending upon you and your political views. As for of us Americans these days we lean independent and do not vote along party lines, but vote for who we think will represent us the best. Infuriately in the house and senate it does not work that way anymore, and has become very divided, and they most always vote along party lines no matter if they agree or they do not agree, that is until we have a crisis, then we all believe that we have no party affiliations and believe we are Americans, Then and only then do they do what is in the best interest of the American people. The corona virus is and example of this, and so was the 911 crisis. There are many more examples, but I believe you get my point. I think we should have term limits on both the House and the Senate of two terms, just as we do for President.

9 States Where Registered Independents Outnumber Both Major Political Parties Millions of voters are not just choosing to self-identify as independent of the two major parties, they are dumping their party registrations in droves. In about half the states that register voters by party, independent voters outnumber at least one of the two major political parties. But here are 9 states where independents not only outnumber registered Republicans AND Democrats, they are also having a significant impact on political developments within the state. Only 33 of the 50 require a registered voter to identify party affiliation.

Your thinking of the presidential election and presidential electoral college. All states have US house of representative seats based on population of each state elected to the US House of Representatives, then each state has 2 Senators in in the US Senate. Only the Presidential Election is decided by the Electoral College for fairness for all of the 50 states regardless of population. This what is called equal and fair representation for all of the US citizens regardless of where you live in this great country and how densely populated your state is. We have 3 branches of government. The House of Representatives is the legislative branch, they develop, debate, and write the laws (435 in total). The Senate (100) and President are the Executive Branch, and pass and enact, and sign the bills into laws. Then there is the Judicial Branch which decides whether laws are constitutional or not. Each of the 50 state governments has very same structure. Wikipedia explains this very well and why our fore fathers decided to do things this way when they developed the constitution and bill of rights.

I remember a man who said, "We need to close our borders." I remember a man who said, "We need to bring our businesses home." I remember a man who said, “We need to become less dependent on other countries to survive." I remember a man who said, “We need to take care of America first!!!" Now I know all the reasons why he said those things... AND, I'll never forget those who purposely got in his way,.. Will you?

I guess I was mistaken when I thought this was European Union ? there are plenty of beds in other countries just a hop skip and jump away that all support the European Union financially, but you let the elderly die because you prioritize your healthcare, just like Brain my employee from the UK, who's mother passed away waiting for and oncologist for over 8 months..… No Thanks ed, I am not interested you can have it.

ed I believe that we control our own destiny by the decisions we make every single day. This is the reason we had the Boston Tea party !!!!

I understand it very well ed, but I don't and will never agree with it. It is the hard-working farmer who ought to have the first share of the crops. But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need. I am not aware of anywhere in this wise book to live by does it say rely on the government to take care you. "God helps those who help themselves" is correct. As an example, if you asked me to help you move a piece of furniture, but then just watched me as I moved the furniture for you, I was not actually helping you. I would be doing the work for you. Many people fall into the trap of inactivity. Many people ask their government for help, but then expect the government to do everything for them. They excuse this by pointing to the fact that government will provide according to their will and in their timing. However, this is not a reason for inactivity. As a specific example, if you are in need of a job, ask the government to help you find a job - but then be inactive in actually looking for a job. While it is in the governments power to do so, it is highly unlikely that the government will cause employers to come looking for you!

Yes they do, just ask the 80 year old Italians that are dying today, and yesterday, and will tomorrow. Not to mention Russia, China, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, and North Korea just to name a few. Wake up ed. Those all I mentioned are national universal health care systems.

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Once again let me tell you the facts, no one in the US is ever refused Medical treatment if needed if you do or do not have insurance. It is the Media BS that you all overseas hear and is not the truth. All hospitals will work out payment plans, all doctors offices will work out payment plans with those who are not insured. What you don't seem to get is that all Americans pay what is called No fault Insurance in many ways, like here in my local county that has a large regional medical center, we pay 5 mils on our property taxes, and that is to support those who do not have insurance if they should default on paying, they will still receive the medical treatments they need. We have a huge Hispanic population, and sometimes because they are not legal to be in the US they default or get the treatment they need and then bail back to Mexico which is very common, but yet the hospital never ever turns anyone away. The big difference is there are no real lengthy waiting times to get treatment in the US. Don't believe all the Media BS that you receive via CNN or the other liberal Media outlets who pray on liberal sympathies around the world, most of it is simply put just not true. Most of the uninsured in this country choose not be insured, not because they can't afford to pay premiums, but by choice, and because they are mostly the young in the work force and working part time or for minimum wage with less than 40 hours a week. A month ago there were over 7 million jobs available for fulltime employment with employer sponsored insurance, but these generation " C " young'uns want everything for free and expect that the government will give it them because they think they deserve it, instead of working hard and getting a fulltime job that provides employer assisted insurance premiums, and you can get government sponsored health insurance under the Obama Mandate that is still in place at reduced rates and is income adjusted. You see we really do have national healthcare.

No, I Have not heard anything from him.

Jabbath, I expected more from you than just being a Trump hater. News about the coronavirus outbreak that started in Wuhan, China, is changing rapidly. The respiratory infection, named COVID-19 by the World Health Organization (WHO), is closely related to SARS and MERS. The majority of cases are no longer in China, and the disease has been diagnosed in more than 100 other countries, including the United States. We'll provide the latest updates on cases, deaths, travel restrictions, and more here. Italy now has more deaths from the new coronavirus than any other country. Earlier today, Italian officials announced that 475 citizens there have died from the virus in just one day, raising the total number of deaths to 3,405. That surpasses the 3,250 deaths reported in China. In all, Italy now has 41,035 total cases, second only to China's 81,238. A new study from the Italian national health authority reports that more than 99% of those who have died from the coronavirus there had other medical problems. However, the study only looked at the backgrounds of 18% of the nearly 3,000 people who have died, which means of the estimated 536 cases investigated, 531 had a pre-existing condition. Italy has more cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus, than any country outside China. As of Thursday morning, more than 35,000 Italians were infected. For the first time since the new coronavirus outbreak began in December, China -- once the epicenter of what would become a global pandemic -- reported no new domestic cases Thursday. The National Health Commission, however reported 34 new cases, all of which were imported from outside China. It's been 81 days since the first case was announced in Wuhan, China. There have been more than 81,000 cases in China and more than 3,200 deaths there. The number of global cases has passed 220,000 according to Johns Hopkins University, which has been tracking cases worldwide. Hot spots continue to balloon across Europe and, for the first time, the virus is threatening to spread across all of Africa. In an effort to boost testing efforts across the country, Trump also said he is asking the FDA to speed up potential approval of a home test for coronavirus. “The groups are working on determining if a ‘self-swab’ by an individual is as effective as the other.” Deborah Birx, MD, White House Coraonvirus Task Force response coordinator, said getting private labs to help with testing has eased the logjam of collected specimens. It also, she warned, will likely mean a week or more of much higher numbers of confirmed cases. “Our curves will not be stable until some time next week,” she said. “With several weeks of focused action, we can turn the corner,” he said. Yet Trump also warned that the outbreak could last until "August, could be July, could be longer than that." Many schools and universities are closed, and people who can are being asked to telework. Officials also said they will reconsider the guidelines after 15 days and that they may need to be extended. The guidance came the same day Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said that the first human trials of a potential vaccine began in Seattle. Earlier this week, the Trump administration announced efforts it said will bring coronavirus testing into a new phase this week. Vice President Mike Pence said at a Sunday news briefing that more than 1.9 million tests will become available and more than 2,000 labs are ready to process them quickly. At the same time, the U.S. Public Health Service is working with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to set up drive-through and walk-up sites in all 50 states. Tests will be prioritized for health care workers, first responders, and people in the highest risk groups, including anyone over 65 years old and people with compromised immune systems. The new sites should be able to conduct 2,000 to 4,000 tests a day and will be set up on a rolling basis, officials said. They warned that the ramped up testing will cause a spike in the number of positive cases. “The worst is yet ahead for us,” said Fauci. “It is how we respond to the challenge that is going to determine what the ultimate endpoint is going to be.” While public health officials warn of more cases to come, they say that the risk to the public remains low. Data in China showed that about 80% of cases there were mild. People at higher risk of having more severe cases include those over 65 and people with underlying conditions or compromised immune systems. According to the European CDC, about 42% of the global cases are in China. More than 80,000 are confirmed outside of China in 150 countries and regions and every continent except Antarctica. Italy, Iran, and Spain are the countries with the most cases outside of China. The virus has caused more than 9,000 deaths worldwide. Italy, Iran, and Spain have the most deaths outside China.

Confirmed 14,363 Deaths 218 Recovered 121 as of this morning

No one is ever turned down from receiving medical treatment in the United States of America as long as you to need help, they will help you, no matter of finances. Don't believe the BS propaganda. America is a civilized country, what makes you think that it is not ?

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