Katie & Phil, Lena & Peter

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16 hours ago, BenCoudon said:

I have a question for viewers that are watching this apartment more than me Is there a problem between Phil & Katie? For all the years I've been on a voyeur site, I never saw a woman (that is there as a couple) to be so often alone in her bed. It looks like that she prefers masturbate (and she does it all the time) than being fucked by Phil. Also, when they have sex, it seems that she doesn't like it. On several occasions, I saw Phil finish with his hand instead of keep fucking She simply seems to get bored when he is fucking her. And we all know that she enjoys lesbian sex with Lena And, again tonight, Phil sleeps on the couch and Katie is alone in her bed. Any one has an idea about that? Some days, I got the impression that she is more lesbian than bisexual and she is with Phil only because of that project (and probably also because Lena has a boyfriend so she can't be with her all the time Your comments would be appreciated to help me to understand this situation

I find Katie very attractive, and to share how she might be feeling I can only relate to you my personal opinions from my personal relationships.  I married a woman who had been married three times.  Short times.  One an alcoholic, 5 years, one an abuser, 3 months, and one who did not like to be a step-parent to her daughter, they were married about 8 years.  My wife told me that she had never had an orgasm.  When we made love in the beginning, I noticed that she was not reaching an orgasm no matter what I tried and when I asked, she shared it.  I could tell that perhaps the other guys were the wham bam thank you ma'am type of guys.  So, I made it my mission to take my time and to find what felt best for her.  Penises did nothing for her (later we found a use).  Fingers did nothing for her.  BUT, we took our time and we found what enriched foreplay - kissing, caressing, talking, sharing, along with oral sex - was the key to what finally produced the resulting outcome.  GREAT!  I always asked her if she wanted to try other different things and she said, "take me how you want me", and I replied, "I want to take you how you want me too".  So, we started with foreplay, then when she was ready for oral, she guided me to 'her place'.  I took care of her needs, physically and emotionally, and I had asked her to try something new.  Instead of finishing on her back to tell me to roll over and for her to "cowboy up - front or backwards" to complete the orgasm (use of the penis at her rhythm, pressure, and time)  And, yep as you guessed, she completely finished her orgasm and I did too as she uttered the guttural sounds of the completion.  So, I think someone (Phil) is not taking his time.  He sees it as a chore to finish, kind of like him believing 'sex with Katie is what I do to pay the bills'.   But Katie wants to feel needed, wanted, and he just isn't trying to do it her way.  That's my opinion based on my experiences of what worked and has worked for my wife and I.  I am sure some may offer additional opinions based on their own experiences.  Katie might also want to review 'SEX.RIGHT.NOW.' on fusion tv FUSNHD here in the USA.  Hopefully, it is available on RU TV, or at fusion.net/section/sex-life.  This program is real sex right now and is a documentary (not porno) talking with different people to get a perspective from others.  Just this week they have discussed HIV, UTI's, Recreational Marijuana for Women's Improved Sexual Inhibitions, Women Do It Too, How Breasts Became Boobs, and more.  Anyway, BenCoudon, I hope this helps with your thoughts and concerns with Katie.  Self-awareness and improvement would probably be better in their own apartment/at their own time/and in their home country instead of us chipping in and bringing her to the USA.  LOL.

[Amy3]

Very nice write up. Thx for sharing with us. You could very well be in to something. We know that she can get off using a vibrator, so maybe Phil's general attitude is hampering life in the sex department. Personally, I think Phil is over living on cam. He's just going through the motions at this point for the money. AlexLina need to recognize burnout when they see it. Maybe a vacation is in order?

[ashleyxyz]

33 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

Katie is looking depressed.

Yeah, she's not the happy carefree person she was at the compound.

[ashleyxyz]

36 minutes ago, PENSIVE BLUEYES said:

I find Katie very attractive, and to share how she might be feeling I can only relate to you my personal opinions from my personal relationships.  I married a woman who had been married three times.  Short times.  One an alcoholic, 5 years, one an abuser, 3 months, and one who did not like to be a step-parent to her daughter, they were married about 8 years.  My wife told me that she had never had an orgasm.  When we made love in the beginning, I noticed that she was not reaching an orgasm no matter what I tried and when I asked, she shared it.  I could tell that perhaps the other guys were the wham bam thank you ma'am type of guys.  So, I made it my mission to take my time and to find what felt best for her.  Penises did nothing for her (later we found a use).  Fingers did nothing for her.  BUT, we took our time and we found what enriched foreplay - kissing, caressing, talking, sharing, along with oral sex - was the key to what finally produced the resulting outcome.  GREAT!  I always asked her if she wanted to try other different things and she said, "take me how you want me", and I replied, "I want to take you how you want me too".  So, we started with foreplay, then when she was ready for oral, she guided me to 'her place'.  I took care of her needs, physically and emotionally, and I had asked her to try something new.  Instead of finishing on her back to tell me to roll over and for her to "cowboy up - front or backwards" to complete the orgasm (use of the penis at her rhythm, pressure, and time)  And, yep as you guessed, she completely finished her orgasm and I did too as she uttered the guttural sounds of the completion.  So, I think someone (Phil) is not taking his time.  He sees it as a chore to finish, kind of like him believing 'sex with Katie is what I do to pay the bills'.   But Katie wants to feel needed, wanted, and he just isn't trying to do it her way.  That's my opinion based on my experiences of what worked and has worked for my wife and I.  I am sure some may offer additional opinions based on their own experiences.  Katie might also want to review 'SEX.RIGHT.NOW.' on fusion tv FUSNHD here in the USA.  Hopefully, it is available on RU TV, or at fusion.net/section/sex-life.  This program is real sex right now and is a documentary (not porno) talking with different people to get a perspective from others.  Just this week they have discussed HIV, UTI's, Recreational Marijuana for Women's Improved Sexual Inhibitions, Women Do It Too, How Breasts Became Boobs, and more.  Anyway, BenCoudon, I hope this helps with your thoughts and concerns with Katie.  Self-awareness and improvement would probably be better in their own apartment/at their own time/and in their home country instead of us chipping in and bringing her to the USA.  LOL.

Nice! Its hard to tell if Katie ever communicates what she wants to Phil or she does and he doesn't care. Once he cums its all over, My man was really bad at oral when we started going out, he was a quick learner though, and now i need him to slow down or i'd be finished before we ever got going!

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6 minutes ago, ashleyxyz said:

Nice! Its hard to tell if Katie ever communicates what she wants to Phil or she does and he doesn't care. Once he cums its all over, My man was really bad at oral when we started going out, he was a quick learner though, and now i need him to slow down or i'd be finished before we ever got going!

"A thought just entered my mind"....hmmm sounds like a country western song...lol....  Anyway - Can couples who watch VH post tutorials of what they do so the VH couples can learn?  Thought maybe if they could, we might find enough people in USA to have a VHUSA.  LOL

[ashleyxyz]

5 hours ago, PENSIVE BLUEYES said:

"A thought just entered my mind"....hmmm sounds like a country western song...lol....  Anyway - Can couples who watch VH post tutorials of what they do so the VH couples can learn?  Thought maybe if they could, we might find enough people in USA to have a VHUSA.  LOL

We need a vhusa!. Not knowing what everyone is saying is really frustrating to me, just like everyone i guess.  Not knowing does lead to fun speculation though. I will give my first sex advice, watch Jeff and Violet, i'm not sure if she cums every time she's with him, but it's not anything he's doing wrong!

[BenCoudon]

Thanks to both of you for your very welcome comments.  That couple puzzles me.  Yes, Katie is extremely attractive but quite often she looks sad.  One thing is sure:  that couple would not win an award for the best performing couple on a voyeur site.They seems to love each other, as I often saw, from both of them nice kisses and special attention.  But on the sex side, they appear to be, may be for the reasons you both expressed, a total mistmatch

[Kkru394]

[Kkru394]

I would have gotten the changing but the replay skips 25 minutes

[jabbath1987]

Timeline is really bad there. I submitted a ticket.

[henriPas]

On 26/09/2017 at 7:11 PM, ashleyxyz said:

Does Phil ever take Katie out of the house to have some fun? These 2 couples are too young to be sitting around all day doing nothing. Maybe hit a movie, then get something to eat, have some laughs. They don't look as happy anymore with each other like they did in the compound. 

Katie n'a pas l'air d'être très intelligente : elle crie souvent, pleure, râle... Un bébé. Et lui, un soumis qui accepte tout...

un couple triste...;

[golfer06]