bluewinner Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, waldi said: 100% videos; we're talking about live performance and vhtv could become the world leader, instead we're watching Lisa and her cat... well, there is Chaturbate, Myfreecams, BongaCams, Stripchat, and hundreds of other online streaming webcam shows just doing that, why do you need one more ? 23 minutes ago, waldi said: 5 or 6 people on this forum and you're saying about excitement? I thought, we want vhtv to be a global player lol It's not 5-6 people, camcaps has more than 50,000 users and many of them do actually engage in discussions here, but regardless of size, it's a good sample of larger audience. 26 minutes ago, waldi said: it was because audience was angry and said; if you don't do anything, I fuck it and cancel my subscription; you're a dreamer my friend was that audience you by any chance ?😀 ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, bluewinner said: well, there is Chaturbate, Myfreecams, BongaCams, Stripchat, and hundreds of other online streaming webcam shows just doing that, why do you need one more ? I have expected you'll say that as it's not the first time on this forum; There is a difference between vhtv and all those cam sites, as vhtv shows the whole perspective, 24 hours and all aspects of tenants life from many cams; it's a huge difference and that site is much better; we were talking about it here at many occasions, have no time to come back to this subject again now, just check it out; 14 minutes ago, bluewinner said: camcaps has more than 50,000 users 99% of them are freeloaders waiting for links to videos.. 14 minutes ago, bluewinner said: was that audience you by any chance ?😀 ... what do you mean?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewinner Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, waldi said: I have expected you'll say that as it's not the first time on this forum; There is a difference between vhtv and all those cam sites, as vhtv shows the whole perspective, 24 hours and all aspects of tenants life from many cams; it's a huge difference and that site is much better; we were talking about it here at many occasions. so If I am not mistaken you like to have porn-stars as VHTV participants, so you can watch them 24/7 ! you can watch Sofi for now and see how it goes. 9 minutes ago, waldi said: 99% of them are freeloaders waiting for links to videos.. I don't have the statistics, you might be right or wrong on that . I have no idea. but at least they are interested, that should count for something. 11 minutes ago, waldi said: what do you mean?? I meant you are just projecting your own views, it has no base in facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 31 minutes ago, bluewinner said: well, there is Chaturbate, Myfreecams, BongaCams, Stripchat, and hundreds of other online streaming webcam shows just doing that, why do you need one more ? It's not 5-6 people, camcaps has more than 50,000 users and many of them do actually engage in discussions here, but regardless of size, it's a good sample of larger audience. was that audience you by any chance ?😀 ... I agree. We might be only a few people here but we are enough to form a representative group. It's like a survey when it come to elections. They ask a small group and they are quite accurate calculating the results for the big group. You are right. There are so much ordinary pornsites when VHTV will give in and just be a live pornsite like Waldi wishes they would not be anything special anymore at all. I think the majority is not into live porn and webcamming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, bluewinner said: so If I am not mistaken you like to have porn-stars as VHTV participants, so you can watch them 24/7 ! you can watch Sofi for now and see how it goes. yes I want to watch participants like Sofi, but they refuse to perform for reasons I mentioned above 3 minutes ago, bluewinner said: but at least they are interested, that should count for something. only subscribers are important, all the rest doesn't matter 4 minutes ago, bluewinner said: I meant you are just projecting your own views, it has no base in facts. sure, but after what I see in the apartments I'm almost fully convinced about what I said; That's it for now, have fun my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, jabbath1987 said: I think the majority is not into live porn and webcamming. it's a basic think we do not agree to and we'll never find out who's right in this case, nevertheless, when I look at the project closely and see all its up and downs, I'm pretty sure I'm right 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, waldi said: only subscribers are important, all the rest doesn't matter The point is target audience. There are tons of hardcore porn sites which deliver brilliant quality 4k60fps material for less money VHTV is per month. Tell me why people interested in that should subscribe to VHTV only to watch Sofi & Kirill? The target audience of VHTV is different and all the webcamming places and live porn places will get problems with that sooner or later. Plus like groomy said pornstars have no reason at all to perform here as they earn a lot more with professional productions. I think you look at the wrong place for the content you want... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, waldi said: it's a basic think we do not agree to and we'll never find out who's right in this case, nevertheless, when I look at the project closely and see all its up and downs, I'm pretty sure I'm right 😀 Tell me which of the places online for a long time does excessive webcamming or porn? 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewinner Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, waldi said: yes I want to watch participants like Sofi, but they refuse to perform for reasons I mentioned above maybe she refuses to perform, because it's not the right platform for her. ( she doesn't attract enough viewers---> she doesn't make enough money ---> she has to go back to her roots, which is working as porn-star. plain and simple). 15 minutes ago, waldi said: only subscribers are important, all the rest doesn't matter and how do you know what subscriber wants? there has been no survey taken from the subscribers. all we have to go on is the popularity of apartments here and based on number of views. 15 minutes ago, waldi said: sure, but after what I see in the apartments I'm almost fully convinced about what I said; That's it for now, have fun my friend you are entitled to your opinion my friend. it was good talking to you. have nice day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, bluewinner said: maybe she refuses to perform, because it's not the right platform for her. ( she doesn't attract enough viewers---> she doesn't make enough money ---> she has to go back to her roots, which is working as porn-star. plain and simple). and how do you know what subscriber wants? there has been no survey taken from the subscribers. all we have to go on is the popularity of apartments here and based on number of views. you are entitled to your opinion my friend. it was good talk. have nice day Fully agree here... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, jabbath1987 said: The point is target audience. There are tons of hardcore porn sites which deliver brilliant quality 4k60fps material for less money VHTV is per month. Tell me why people interested in that should subscribe to VHTV only to watch Sofi & Kirill? The target audience of VHTV is different and all the webcamming places and live porn places will get problems with that sooner or later. Plus like groomy said pornstars have no reason at all to perform here as they earn a lot more with professional productions. I think you look at the wrong place for the content you want... you completely didn't understand what I was talking about; all the time I'm saying about what vhtv isn't at the moment, and what it could become, if adequate measures were taken; It's not a wrong place for me jabb; I'm still watching videos from best so far apartment of Sonya and hoping they'll open one or two similar; 360 days left 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, waldi said: you completely didn't understand what I was talking about; all the time I'm saying about what vhtv isn't at the moment, and what it could become, if adequate measures were taken; It's not a wrong place for me jabb; I'm still watching videos from best so far apartment of Sonya and hoping they'll open one or two similar; 360 days left 😀 I get what you mean. But I think when they develop in the direction you want they will lose more members than they win. No matter what you do you have always to be aware of your main target customers or audience. You never can make everybody happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts