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4 hours ago, SierraTM said:

 I assume you prescribe to this project to see sexual content and not Disney... The fact you signed for this project means you are a perv and you want to see sexual content, be it how regular it is shown to you.

 

The fact that you assume this shows that you have not grasped the range of people that make up the title 'voyeur', nor have to listened to what some people on this forum have said repeatedly.

There are those who just enjoy watching the girls, whether or not they are doing something sexual.  For myself, I love watching the interactions between girls living together, and yes I also love the sexual aspect of that, but it is certainly not all sexual for me, and for some people on here the sexual is even less important. Would it surprise you to hear I very rarely masturbate to anything I have seen on RLC, and I suspect I'm far from alone in that. 

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Il y a 4 heures, moos54 a dit :

I think your analysis is not entirely correct
Already RLC is a site for voyeurism, not porn, it means that even watching a girl who is not naked on her bed can be just as interesting to see for real voyeur

I also think that the decline in subscriptions within RLC is due to the loss of Russian apartments which allowed to see the real life of couples, with their family and friends
I do not think that the sexual aspect is the primary reason for subscriptions otherwise there would not be as many members who leave the ship because there is still as much nudity and sex as before, even more than before
and I think that many are tired of always seeing the same thing with Barcelona apartments because we can see that girls have almost a slight obligation to do the show, either to make a bonus or to be able to claim a longer stay than planned

It is true that RLC does not take a lot of risk by bringing back old girls, but most have already shown everything in previous participations and suddenly does not show anything really interesting
I do not find it very fairplay when we see that the apartments for couples do not have a real obligation to attract premium members, we had apartments that stayed for years in the project without it bringing any real added value

Some people have better information than speculation about how RLC or Barcelona apartments work and what girls say in apartments

Speaking of Cindy, I really think that it is a management error of Nora and RLC not to keep her longer because I am convinced that she would surely have given us much more, like for example Alla but we didn’t will never have a chance to experience it

Alla, so far is the most recent girl in my memory who did a turnaround and provide solo, G/G and B/G entertainment in B4.

But Cindy, from her time here until she ultimately leaves, has not given us any indication that she would be an Alla. Alla did provide bates, both undercover and half-covered even before she had a 180 degrees turnaround.

Cindy provided nothing. Please do not compare Cindy to Alla.

Voyeurism, in this aspect, since the cameras are not hidden, is pornography and not real voyeurism as you always assume it to be.

It is not, please do not take RLC's words for it. There isn't any real life to talk about. Girls like Monica are happy to do shows but will not fuck her b/f or male friend on camera which I will respect because this is her choice.

The girls, especially those in GOV, are unlikely to bring any real life content to the apartments unless there is a pre-arrangement with RLC (which defeats the purpose anyway).

For the Russian apartments, I will admit you and perhaps some others are more informed about this. I assume this plays a part too, so I cannot disagree with you on this.

Edit: "Some people have better information than speculation about how RLC or Barcelona apartments work and what girls say in apartments" - Yes I know you are one of the some people, but I am not really interested in what the girls say in Russian or listen in to their conversations. I know you are willingly a double agent because you want information about RLC and the girls, which is absolutely fine. Some people just want to know more while some could care less.

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il y a 33 minutes, Hornygirl a dit :

The fact that you assume this shows that you have not grasped the range of people that make up the title 'voyeur', nor have to listened to what some people on this forum have said repeatedly.

There are those who just enjoy watching the girls, whether or not they are doing something sexual.  For myself, I love watching the interactions between girls living together, and yes I also love the sexual aspect of that, but it is certainly not all sexual for me, and for some people on here the sexual is even less important. Would it surprise you to hear I very rarely masturbate to anything I have seen on RLC, and I suspect I'm far from alone in that. 

I think most of us don't jerk off to RLC's porn, well at least for me I can't type and jerk off at the same time.

All of us enjoying watching the interaction between the girls living together, no one will say the interaction are not unnecessary and not important but since this is ultimately a porn site (if you are still in doubt, send the URL link of this site to a credible lawyer. I sent to mine, and she told me half-jokingly not to tempt her to watch porn while at work...), the girls must be willing and show clear indication that she is able to provide sexual content. And hopefully, we don't have to wait 2-3 months to see that. Wasting USD$45 per month for 3 months to wait out a girl is unfortunately not something I would do.

What I want to be clear is that we should be rational and not emotional when it comes to paying money for pornography. And stop telling yourself you don't watch porn because RLC is porn.

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2 minutes ago, SierraTM said:

Voyeurism, in this aspect, since the cameras are not hidden, is pornography and not real voyeurism as you always assume it to be.

It is not, please do not take RLC's words for it. There isn't any real life to talk about. 

 

If by  "Real life" you mean what the girls would be doing if they hadn't been flown across Europe and paid to be in a house with cameras then of course it isn't real life.  But I believe we get a very real and interesting view into how a group of girls, many of whom are strangers to each other, are thrown into a house together to negotiate all those interactions with the added aspect of knowing they are being viewed around the world.  As long as they are real people interacting and not acting a script - and I don't want to get side tracked into how much input RLC has to what they do - then that is real life and as a voyeur I love it. 

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8 minutes ago, SierraTM said:

I think most of us don't jerk off to RLC's porn, well at least for me I can't type and jerk off at the same time.

All of us enjoying watching the interaction between the girls living together, no one will say the interaction are not unnecessary and not important but since this is ultimately a porn site (if you are still in doubt, send the URL link of this site to a credible lawyer. I sent to mine, and she told me half-jokingly not to tempt her to watch porn while at work...), the girls must be willing and show clear indication that she is able to provide sexual content. And hopefully, we don't have to wait 2-3 months to see that. Wasting USD$45 per month for 3 months to wait out a girl is unfortunately not something I would do.

What I want to be clear is that we should be rational and not emotional when it comes to paying money for pornography. And stop telling yourself you don't watch porn because RLC is porn.

Would you consider the TV show "Big Brother" and similar to be pornography? What they show, at least in parts of  the world where the editing is less strict, is little different from much of what you see on RLC - you see naked people showering, people masturbating, people having sex,  yet it is shown on TV channels that would certainly not show pornography.  I would argue the only difference with RLC is we are seeing the raw feed rather that what an editor has chosen to shown us, and I watch it for the same reason I watch those programs, as an interesting sociological exercise that sometimes produces arousing moments, most certainly not as porn. 

And I for one would be much more likely to pay my subscription if they kept the less open girls in for long enough for us to begin to see them grow and develop, however long that takes- there are 15 beds across the 3 GOV flats, more than enough for a good mix of show girls and quieter types. 

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18 minutes ago, SierraTM said:

Alla, so far is the most recent girl in my memory who did a turnaround and provide solo, G/G and B/G entertainment in B4.

But Cindy, from her time here until she ultimately leaves, has not given us any indication that she would be an Alla. Alla did provide bates, both undercover and half-covered even before she had a 180 degrees turnaround.

Cindy provided nothing. Please do not compare Cindy to Alla.

Voyeurism, in this aspect, since the cameras are not hidden, is pornography and not real voyeurism as you always assume it to be.

It is not, please do not take RLC's words for it. There isn't any real life to talk about. Girls like Monica are happy to do shows but will not fuck her b/f or male friend on camera which I will respect because this is her choice.

The girls, especially those in GOV, are unlikely to bring any real life content to the apartments unless there is a pre-arrangement with RLC (which defeats the purpose anyway).

For the Russian apartments, I will admit you and perhaps some others are more informed about this. I assume this plays a part too, so I cannot disagree with you on this.

Edit: "Some people have better information than speculation about how RLC or Barcelona apartments work and what girls say in apartments" - Yes I know you are one of the some people, but I am not really interested in what the girls say in Russian or listen in to their conversations. I know you are willingly a double agent because you want information about RLC and the girls, which is absolutely fine. Some people just want to know more while some could care less.

Objectively, tell me what did Alla do during her first month in the project? I can tell you, nothing much more than what Cindy did, however you consider Cindy to be a do nothing but not Alla, I think your cursor is not really calibrate well :biggrin:

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il y a 2 minutes, Hornygirl a dit :

Would you consider the TV show "Big Brother" and similar to be pornography? What they show, at least in parts of  the world where the editing is less strict, is little different from much of what you see on RLC - you see naked people showering, people masturbating, people having sex,  yet it is shown on TV channels that would certainly not show pornography.  I would argue the only difference with RLC is we are seeing the raw feed rather that what an editor has chosen to shown us, and I watch it for the same reason I watch those programs, as an interesting sociological exercise that sometimes produces arousing moments, most certainly not as porn. 

Big Brother is not pornography. It is a reality competition on mainstream TV which voters can decide who to keep or kick on every few rounds. This content is unique because in some countries, it is heavily inducted with sexual content to keep some audience interested while in other countries like the UK and or US, the sexual content is censored or the cameras will move away if they think an accidental nudity was incoming. Big Brother is just another version of reality TV, with celebrity participants or model participants, which the general audience can accept and watch on mainstream TV to a certain extent. The main pull of Big Brother is actually how the contestants live with each other on set, make alliance and try to outplay each other so that they can avoid being voted off. Sometimes for the female participants, being willingly sexual on set will help their cause.

Comparing RLC to Big Brother is kinda rough for me. In fact, it is quite unfair to label them as pornography I think.

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4 minutes ago, SierraTM said:

Big Brother is not pornography. It is a reality competition on mainstream TV which voters can decide who to keep or kick on every few rounds. This content is unique because in some countries, it is heavily inducted with sexual content to keep some audience interested while in other countries like the UK and or US, the sexual content is censored or the cameras will move away if they think an accidental nudity was incoming. Big Brother is just another version of reality TV, with celebrity participants or model participants, which the general audience can accept and watch on mainstream TV to a certain extent. The main pull of Big Brother is actually how the contestants live with each other on set, make alliance and try to outplay each other so that they can avoid being voted off. Sometimes for the female participants, being willingly sexual on set will help their cause.

Comparing RLC to Big Brother is kinda rough for me. In fact, it is quite unfair to label them as pornography I think.

I wouldn't label them as pornography either, my point is that your description there, thinking of parts of the world where they censor less, is not that different from RLC with the exception of the public voting being replaced with bonuses. For me RLC is much closer to reality TV than pornography. 

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il y a 3 minutes, moos54 a dit :

Objectively, tell me what did Alla do during her first month in the project? I can tell you, nothing much more than what Cindy did, however you consider Cindy to be a do nothing but not Alla, I think your cursor is not really calibrate well :biggrin:

I think it is pointless to argue on with you, just like previously, you are always insistent that you are always correct.

If I as a fucking whiner can tell you Alla, whom I whined about, was better than Cindy, I believe I have no logical sense to contradict myself that bad right now.

Alla was weird, that is the furthest you can criticise her in her first month. She delivered her 'sexual content' while hiding from the cameras.

Cindy delivers nothing of such. All Cindy delivers is that she is consistently making good use of the space in the kitchen and in the living room.

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il y a 1 minute, Hornygirl a dit :

I wouldn't label them as pornography either, my point is that your description there, thinking of parts of the world where they censor less, is not that different from RLC with the exception of the public voting. For me RLC is much closer to reality TV than pornography. 

This can't be because if you consider Big Brother to be reality TV, than RLC is reality pornography.

This is the logical association if we follow your logic.

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3 minutes ago, SierraTM said:

Big Brother is not pornography.

are you really sure about that? the cameras are not hidden either as compared to RLC and if you do a google search for videos of Big Brother, I think you will find more on porn sites than those of RLC :biggrin:

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il y a 2 minutes, moos54 a dit :

are you really sure about that? the cameras are not hidden either as compared to RLC and if you do a google search for videos of Big Brother, I think you will find more on porn sites than those of RLC :biggrin:

Please read my whole comment and not just take what you want to make fun of. Please do not be like Trump.

The videos are found on sites because they don't clamp down on them like RLC does. Even Russian forums have limited amount of RLC videos.

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