Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20

[girlsfun2]

3 hours ago, ddhm said:

In my humble opinion , it is Martina ( as I have repeatedly said ) that she will suffer if she loses Alberto ( which I believe this will never happen , no matter what happens , the “ worst “ case scenario is that they will be always best friends , people that would never be able not have one another in their lives ) .. it isn’t easy to find a person who accepts all of the way of living style like Alberto does for Martina .. others would question the nights out , won’t approve or accept , speaking about a normal relationship that is . Martina won’t be able to find a guy that he will be accepting her fucking next room and on the couples bed and bedroom her lesbian married lover . Martina will have difficulties to find a guy that she can trust  easily all of her secrets without being judged negative or in a disappointed / degraded way like the actions of Martina who many times aren’t the best example ..Martina needs Alberto more than Alberto needs Martina …

 

He proved that he can find a job , he is a decent boyfriend , he knows how to cook , he can make it by himself easily , it is just Martina’s personality and the forum here at CC’s which has mostly male members that her presence overshadows many of the positive characteristics from Alberto .. In my opinion he is a great guy and the only disadvantage is that he is kind of “ home lover “ guy , he prefers his quiet, peace and relaxation and he’s not this much into parties or social gatherings ( he won’t say no and he will enjoy the maximum if the company is for his tastes ) .

 

My conclusion - as I have said again - is that Martina is dependent on Alberto concerning her freedom of actions routine .. I don’t know if she can be with a guy that will “ demand “ things from her , a guy that he will also behave exactly the same way like her .. can it be that she can share life with a “ male Martina “ lifestyle ? Can Martina accept a guy in her life that  fucks in the next door bedroom and couple’s bed a common female friend while she builds Lego or plays PlayStation in the LR ? An answer in that can tell about the relationship of these two people for over or nearly 10 years now .. with the normal ups and downs as it should always be in long term ( whatever kind of ) relationships . 

Agree with you so much.
Another argument to confirm your thinking: among friends, we sometimes discuss about other couples in our circle and in one case, we say to ourselves "how does this woman impose her way of doing things to her boyfriend like that instead of appreciating the chance to have such a good guy by her side. And we often come to the conclusion that this man would have absolutely no problem finding another woman who would appreciate him at his true value (he has great looking, personality and money...) and that this woman doesn't realize that she could lose everything overnight because sooner or later her boyfriend will wake up.
Strange the 'strength' of habits in humans, we can live situations that do not meet our needs but we do not decide to act to change things, especially in couples ... we all live these situations .... 
 

[Adalbert]

Well then everything seems to be fine. But you seem to be quite interested in their way of life, otherwise you wouldn't be watching and commenting on them like we all do.😉

[girlsfun2]

3 hours ago, darkman said:

First of all, to qualify someone as a psychopath, a narcissist, it's not an insult, I'm not a psychologist, but I do understand and know how these beings work, I had to deal with one like that, and it didn't come off very well, if I'm a sucker, and of course a long time ago , since martina was not in rlc , so i have been able to see her evolution , likewise i understand her language , and her country 's social culture , it is similar to mine , that is why , in many conversations from day to day Day, his gestures, and above all his actions, I recognize a manipulative person and if not psychopathic, if toxic, I see myself reflected in his relationship, always look at what he does, never what he says and you will discover them.

And the good question: how they end up together in RLC, that would, I think, explain a lot of thing but nobody offer an answer... 

[JenniferMom]

3 hours ago, ddhm said:

I don’t know ( even if I could easily .. ) what , how , where and with who spends her nights .. I only know that if she was sexually satisfied , what’s the point of keeping on sexually with Alberto if all of her needs are satisfied ? 

As both good friends omedo and emnv have said repeatedly , Martina isn’t a saint .. Alberto many times hasn’t liked or approved some of her actions but in my country here we say that there’s no point trying to prevent or get mad from your BF/GF if the person has decided to do anything with someone else . 

I will always say that if Alberto didn’t like the situation , I believe he would have quit RLC … I don’t think that Martina would have done the same  as i believe she LOVES the exposure , the popularity , I do believe she loves to be watched but in another “ bossy / demanding “ way because of her character and not like Leora for example who is the top exhibitionist because she has no other interest in her life and this is how she has grown up and knowing it to do professionally .. 

I believe that this couple will always be there for one another even if both of them get married with others and have children , these two will always be special for one another . 

You've come back with a much improved and better reasoned response.  This is the DD I remember! 

So yes you make a good point, why go out looking for sex if Alberto is satisfying her?  But we KNOW she did this at least once with Nelly.  Why does everyone think it's so impossible to think she might be doing it again?  I will agree that if she is hooking up she is likely hooking up with a girl.  But the other aspect of whether Alberto is satisfying her -- perhaps it doesn't matter if this is simply a FWB arrangement.  Again and again I will admit that I think DeepDave and you and others are more likely correct that these two intend to be together for the long term.  But we should not discount other ideas at this point.

Thank you for reminding us that emnv and omedo have shared often that Martina is not a saint.  This seems to have been lost as of late.

Your last sentence (bolded) is exactly what I have believed in, i.e. they will always be special to each other.  I think some here think FWB relationships are like escort services or one night stands.  No a good FWB has to start with two people who are very close to each other and great friends.  Think Masha and Sam perhaps.  Why is it so crazy to think Martina and Alberto are similar to Masha and Sam?

 

[girlsfun2]

3 hours ago, Deepdave said:

Hey GF2

i don’t make up these translations and you admittedly don’t trust the translators anyway.  So your comment is that I repeat myself.  I hate to tell you but go back to your posts and you will fall asleep with all of your repetitions, repetitions, repetitions, repetitions LOL if you know what I mean, I forgot the !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry.

If I remove all the copy/paste of your last posts, there is no information (posts) about the exchanges between Martina and the others on RLC. So where are your translations ?

So what new information that you have for us about Martina and Alberto lately ?  Prove it to us !

For fun, LOL !!!! +  

[berty_47]

2 hours ago, darkman said:

no se si sabeis la fabula de la rana hervida , tu pones una rana en agua hirviendo y salta de la olla automaticamente y salva su vida , si haces lo mismo en agua fria y la calientas poco a poco , la rana muere hervida , no salta , alberto esta en una situacion que se llama indefension aprendida , si me apuras hasta sindrome de estocolmo , ademas de una dependencia emocional de ella , alberto no va a dejar JAMAS a martina , en cambio ella el dia que lo deje lo va a hacer de un dia para el otro , fria , dicotomica , sin ningun tipo de miramientos , cuatro lagrimas de cocodrilo , como el dia que murio black y vida nueva , en terminos de psicologia martina esta aplicando una cosa que se llama TRIANGULACION  , esto no es lo mismo que cuernos , la triangulacion tiene como objetivo crear en el otro la sensacion de que cabe la posibilidad que lo pueda perder , sea con parejas reales o ficticias , dandose un valor que en realidad no tiene , esto provoca en alberto todos esos sintomas que menciono , ademas de la ceguera , dice una frase que el enamoramiento es un transtorno transitorio que hace ver en el otro , cualidades que no existen y oculta defectos evidentes , espero que este señor abra los ojos mas pronto que tarde .

Hello darkmann, thank you for this remarkable contribution.
When I wrote my post today, I also had the thought of the "Boyled Frog". I repeat myself: Contrary to what is always said here, Alberto clearly suffers from all the circumstances.

And there is solid evidence of this: quite a few times after Martina's "all-nighter" there were very serious conversations, always in the bathroom (because there is no audio). Marina then sits in the corner like a small child and usually listens without protesting. After that, she gets offended and Albert immediately strokes and kisses her because he is afraid that she might leave him. Or she tries to calm him down with sex. Lately he's even turned down her offers because he saw through the scam. It bothers him and he suffers when she is out at night but he "tolerates" it because he cannot do otherwise. Alberto loves Martina very much, without a doubt. Can a lover bear that there is another partner in this relationship? (Even if it's just an hour-long phone call). Experience shows that it rarely works. One of the three is usually the loser. Here the loser is predetermined.

[JenniferMom]

On 9/4/2022 at 1:30 PM, darkman said:

what happens with nelly is that two psychopathic personalities coincide, the two complement each other, only that nelly is of a much higher rank in every way, and martina doesn't let her live, she needs to win yes or yes, she can't stand losing.

I love a lot of your thoughts Darkman, but you lose me here calling them psychopaths.  You actually contradict yourself because earlier you say they are 20-somethings.  I guess the older folks here think some 20-somethings are psycho ... but this is not appropriate I don't think.  Martina is a young girl out to have fun.  I don't think she is psychopathic at all.  I have said I don't think there is a lot of hate here for this couple (as some suggest) but yes if we are saying things like this, then maybe there is a bit of hatred.  I don't think you hate this couple though.

[girlsfun2]

2 hours ago, Deepdave said:

If she does it your way, she doesn’t get it very often and must be a quick quickie.  Not her style.

WOW ! 'quick quickie' not Martina style....

[girlsfun2]

2 hours ago, Noldus said:

Martina in the shower

We approciate you Timekepper, ! Big Kiss  

[girlsfun2]

1 hour ago, Adalbert said:

🥱😴😴 perhaps can someone wake me up if she will post something new and not only repeating the same stuff again and again...thanks a lot. By the way, you don't notice at all that you are arguing with the same arguments that you are condemning in others. Pathetic and you sound like one of the many conspiracy theorists who act like the three monkeys...🙈🙉🙊

Do you catch it ? you fell into the trap again !!! Deep !

[JenniferMom]

4 hours ago, Deepdave said:

So, it is time for the defenders of Martina to reappear. 

I never thought you had drifted that far away!

4 hours ago, Deepdave said:

Right now, her true love is Alberto.  Recently I have seen them cuddling on the couch, watching TV.  Why would Martina be doing this unless she really felt something for Alberto.

It's when you say things like this I think you lose credibility.  How do YOU KNOW Alberto is her true love?  You don't think close friends cuddle while watching TV?  What do all the girls in all the other apartments do all the time ... cuddle ... often naked ... is that TRUE LOVE?

4 hours ago, Deepdave said:

And most importantly and sadly they do not trust the translators who have been an invaluable way to know and love Martina and Alberto.

As DD has mentioned, the translators have actually painted a not-so-rosy picture of their relationship at times.

[girlsfun2]

41 minutes ago, darkman said:

LATEST NEWS , Martina , after seeing an apparition of the Virgin in the citadel park , becomes a cloistered nun , they are considering the possibility of putting cameras inside the convent , I think most of the sisters are BI , lesbians , or undefined sexuality. 

Yes I'm in, where can I how can I register ? 

Funny Big kiss !