Timewarp Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 The insane amosexual white dude is a far greater problem at the moment than any Muslim problem some have imagined. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBsq69 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 the Muslim problem some have imagined ... do you even pay any attention to the news? Hundreds of thousands if not millions have died over the last 15-20 years all over the world thanks to Islamic minority populations trying to assert their independence egged on and funded from the Gulf, or far worse Jihadists not egged on but still funded by the Gulf trying to cleanse the world of Muslims who just aren't Muslim enough. If you are Non-Believer, a Shiite, a Yazidi, a Kurd, a Christian, a Buddhist or a Sunni who simply does not believe in the strict implementation of Sharia Law, they and their enormous oil revenues are coming to get you. Year by year watch the fault line between Muslim and Christian edge southwards in Africa, watch religious minorities in countries with extreme Islamic regimes become ever smaller until like in Zanzibar they vanish completely and they have to resort to throwing acid into women's faces because they have got rid of all the people to hate. Putin (who you may be talking about, although his girlfriend/wife is a young sporty hottie) may be a problem right now, mainly to former Soviet states, but there is no question what the biggest problem is for the world and it lies in the desert. The insane amosexual white dude is a far greater problem at the moment than any Muslim problem some have imagined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Yes but by, funded from the Gulf, you mean essentially Saudi Arabia and its Wahhabist regime. Who supported the Wahhabists and continue to do so today? It's easy to blame the fundamentalists (who are only minorities in the countries in which they are stirring up shit) but they are the symptom not the cause. People want an enemy to blame but they don't understand what is happening in the day to day turmoil in the Middle-East (I don't understand the shifting alliances and who are the good or bad guys myself, so don't think that I'm trying to sound like an authority on it), so we take who the media tells us are the bad guys and cling to that - be they refugees, all Muslims, whatever. But the true bad guys are never named, even by the ill-informed all-Muslim haters, because politicians and the media have agreed that there is so much money in Saudi oil that the Wahhabists can do whatever they want and never be named and shamed as the source of the strife. 15 of the 19 9/11 assholes were Saudi Arabian, yet the media made sure that the majority of the public supported the subsequent killing of 1.5 million Iraqis in retaliation leading to the destablisation of the country and the emergence of Wahhabist backed ISIL. We wage war with one yet bow our heads and shake hands with the other? That is properly fucked up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBsq69 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 The Gulf - not only Saudi but Qatar who are perhaps even more pro-active in funding and certain rich individuals in the Emirates as well. Saudi are about 20% Wahabi UAE and Qatar, 40% each but these tend to be the ones with the power and the money. We have already heard from reliable sources that a senior figure within the Saudi Royal Family/government (since they are the same thing) said that they intended to wipe out all the Shiites and yet they plead with the West that they are being surrounded by forces who threaten them. This is exactly why they poured support into the rebels in Syria and were delighted when the Muslim Brotherhood took over Egypt (even though they have since pretended to have nothing to do with them by cosying up to the current regimein Egypt ... they disowned them when they lost). Turkey under Erdogan has continually shown support for Saudi's aims doing almost nothing to stop and, by attacking the Kurds, helping Islamic State - the Saudis flew 6 missions against IS as far as I know in a token gesture. IS only became a problem for the Saudis when its barbaric nature was revealed, but before all they cared about was that it was helping promote (often at the point of a gun) their ideas. They do not like Asad (not just because his family are mass murderers) and they do not like democracy (hence their attempts to destabilise Iraq). They simply do not care how many people die for their aims. All the West (particularly the US and UK) see are dollar signs when they talk to the Saudis and in return the Saudis promise they will leave Israel alone - why do you think Hamas is sponsored by Iran even though the Palestinians are Sunni? But I find their sponsorship of terrorism in Africa even more alarming. All over West Africa with Boko Haram and its affiliates who have armies big enough to take on several countries at once - like IS their soldiers are well paid and they have good equipment often better than the armies of the countries they are fighting. In East Africa there is the battle hardened Al-Shabbab gradually pushing its influence further into Kenya while Kenya tries to fight back more and more towns in its own country appear to becoming under the extremists' influence. In Central Africa too they have been attempts to declare Islamic law in countries which are at least half currently Christian. Out in China they have a terrorist presence. In Pakistan the so-called Taleban's support comes from previously Saudi sponsored schools. In Afghanistan IS has even popped up attempting to steal minds from the real Taleban. And if we skip over Malaysia where the island states are getting mor extreme and Indonesia which looks the other way regarding intolerance of other religions, we come to the Philippines where pushes for independence amongst the Muslim areas become greater every year There is no doubt in my mind these rich Gulf Wahabis have enormous ambitions to control large parts of the world and they do not care how they do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Indeed. I think it's high time that the media stopped referring to these people with the divisive and unhelpful term of Muslim extremists and instead used the more correct term of Saudi state sponsored Whabbist extremists. SSSWH doesn't have a good ring to it though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewarp Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 the Muslim problem some have imagined ... do you even pay any attention to the news? I perhaps should have been more specific about the context. Here in the good ole USA, right wing cowards have been providing an endless dialogue of anti-Muslim rhetoric (All Muslims are scary aparently)and time after time it is some 'Merican,bible thumpin', gun totin' white dude that's been shooting up the towns and taking over government facilities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBsq69 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Yes I see that. The racist theme, or at the very least a demonisation of whole populations, is very disturbing and not just inside the US. The UK may withdraw from the EU just because of it which would be like cutting off our nose to spite our face. The main reason people want out is because the media continually run stories about how East Europeans are putting enormous strains on our economy by claiming benefits when in fact they bring a lot of energy. hard work and are a net benefit to the economy.However since it is politically incorrect to attack the influx of non-whites, because they are white the Poles and Romanians are somehow scene as people easy to attack. It is not limited to the UK but I think following the events of 2008 which the world economy has not recovered from, it is almost human nature to want keep blaming people and instead of the bankers and politicians, immigrants are always the go to target. We have around 3 million Muslims in the UK, I'd imagine the jihadists here number less than 10,000 which is about 1 in 300 and the number of terrorist attacks carried out inside the UK by them over the last 15 years can be counted on the fingers of one hand not including the thumb which is almost nothing compared to the attacks we had from the IRA before the Good Friday agreement - they were also Protestants attacks on Catholics but they tended to be shootings in Northern Ireland so more targetted assasinations than terrorism. the Muslim problem some have imagined ... do you even pay any attention to the news? I perhaps should have been more specific about the context. Here in the good ole USA, right wing cowards have been providing an endless dialogue of anti-Muslim rhetoric (All Muslims are scary aparently)and time after time it is some 'Merican,bible thumpin', gun totin' white dude that's been shooting up the towns and taking over government facilities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foamy T. Squirrel Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 the Muslim problem some have imagined ... do you even pay any attention to the news? I perhaps should have been more specific about the context. Here in the good ole USA, right wing cowards have been providing an endless dialogue of anti-Muslim rhetoric (All Muslims are scary aparently)and time after time it is some 'Merican,bible thumpin', gun totin' white dude that's been shooting up the towns and taking over government facilities. I and my friends must be living under a rock or something. I see amazingly little racial, religious or even cultural friction. Perhaps it is because I hang around so many different people, and once you know them personally, you treat each other as human individuals, and not members of a "group." Politicians and media in the US only deal with categorizing people in terms of their "voting blocks." Honestly, I think the accusations of racism and bigotry in the US are highly overstated for the political gain of the rich pigs who are in control. There have been minor battles in the evolution away from 19th Century thinking as regards race; and a very few skirmishes as regards sex; but generally speaking, Americans have never had wars between religions the likes of which their ancestors in Europe experienced for hundreds of years. Those were devastating wars. Media exists now to portray reality out of context. It deals with exciting aberrations, but never the regular daily lives of Americans. It's not that I'm in a privileged and isolated environment of rich white people (and squirrels), but rather I have been cast into the lower classes by brunt of socialist ideology and my family consists of mixed race, mixed religion, and mixed politics. And we never have a bad time around the Thanksgiving table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Time, I agree with you 100%. I find you to be one of most socially conscious people on this site. I am sorry we ever fought before. Your views are very much like mine. I don't know that we are in the majority but I sure hope so! Respect for all peoples! We are all homo sapiens, color, race, sex, religion all irrelevant. What matters is humanity towards your fellow human! We were born with big brains! Use them people! When you know you have no reason to resent a person but for some physical characteristic or because of their faith, then it it is just bigotry, is illogical and inhumane! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 BB, your comments about the gulf states is right on, pal. And time, you have found your niche here! And I think I will come here at times to give you support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 People respond with fear too much. All american muslims are not terrorist. Most are good solid american citizens. Are we going back to the Japanese internment camps? What are people afraid of? Don't help the terrorists terrorize you! We will destroy ISIS where they are, don't worry. We have beaten back the Soviet Union with 25,000 nukes, we can beat this vicious ragtag army! We are already reducing their territory, reduce their finances, killing their top people! They want us to lose our democracy. That is what makes us great! Don't give in! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Maturin, I love your comments! We must be wary of our corporations. They will soon control our government and politicians (or do they already?). The TTP is horrible, giving away the store to our corporations and other countries. And we are heading back towards 2008 crash again if we do not at least restore Glass Steegle. Ironically, my President Bill Clinton did away with it during the roaring 90's! And get money out of politics! Or we won't have any democracy left if we haven't already lost it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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