mr1010 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 So, you are on this porn site and you have a wife? That doesn't sound so moral either, does it? He who casts the first stone.... You never spoke to me like another human being, with a positive approach. How would that make you feel if someone didn't do that with you? I have been relentlessy respectful and positive towards people on camcaps, have actually tried to interact with people, be friendly. After all, we are all shipmates on the same boat. Why do that with me? If you wanted to talk to me like a human being to another human being, I could respect that and might even heed 'friendly advice". I know I have problems. We are all here on a fucking porn site, jerking off to sex. Don't be so morally righteous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlii Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 My comments are not directed an anyone in particular but since you question my moral compass I wouldn't be here if I weren't paying for what everyone else is. I enjoy the window into the personal lives of these people or so it is portrayed to be and even though there is some ridiculous behavior, I believe I join the masses in throwing in some comments, most of the time in humor to lighten things up. If you don't share my opinion that this is odd behavior for this site then disagree and enjoy it. Enough said..enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Houili, who are you referring to? I was referring specifically to miscvoyeur and timewarp, not to anyone else. I didn't see anything wrong at all with your comment. I did think it was funny! And right! Laptop guy is a freak. And now we know he is gay even though he tries to hit on Christy. No that there is anything wrong with being gay, just don't act under false pretenses. And he is a jerk, lying on christy's bed, the other day monopolizing the room on his laptop. And i think there is something not quite right with him. The other guys, although not good with women, don't seem like bad guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StnCld316 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 OK Guys settle it down. If you wish to differ and bash each other. Take it over to Flame Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlii Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Sorry Mr. 1010.. misunderstood and thought it was directed at me.. I enjoy all the comments on here including yours.. Peace all.. enjoy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Thanks, Houlii. I felt that others were acting morally righteous when we are all doing the same thing, honestly. I don't judge anyone, certainly I don't think I am a perfect human being. Far from it. Everyone has their things, live and let live. I should have known that others might misinterpret my comments. It just happened that your comment got posted right before mine even though I was referring to someone's earlier comments. That always is a problem. Like you said, people should just enjoy what they like about VV, say whatever they want about it without censorship, but always, always be respectful of other people's opinions. If you or others critique what is going on at VV, just because I disagree with someone's opinion or how often they post about a certain topic doesn't entitle me to call you out or complain. If someone wants to complain all the time, as long as it is not pointed at me personally, who am I to judge. I can state my opinion if I want, but that's it. And never anything personal. We are all fellow human beings who are imperfect. And one other thing, others say some of the same things I do but they don't get called out like I have. Maybe it is because I am forceful with what I say more than other people are, or in the other words I put myself all out there making me a target. I am not afraid, nor will I be silenced. And I don't know what the f... is Flame Wars. I am not arguing politics or things not relevant to the forum here. You can't tell me that if I am attacked that I cannot respond. Instead, moderator, why don't you direct your comments at all the disrespectful, downright insulting comments that are being made. Try to do your job fairly. How about you tell people to pm me or others for personal comments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upndown Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Thanks, Houlii. I felt that others were acting morally righteous when we are all doing the same thing, honestly. I don't judge anyone, certainly I don't think I am a perfect human being. Far from it. Everyone has their things, live and let live. I should have known that others might misinterpret my comments. It just happened that your comment got posted right before mine even though I was referring to someone's earlier comments. That always is a problem. Like you said, people should just enjoy what they like about VV, say whatever they want about it without censorship, but always, always be respectful of other people's opinions. If you or others critique what is going on at VV, just because I disagree with someone's opinion or how often they post about a certain topic doesn't entitle me to call you out or complain. If someone wants to complain all the time, as long as it is not pointed at me personally, who am I to judge. I can state my opinion if I want, but that's it. And never anything personal. We are all fellow human beings who are imperfect. And one other thing, others say some of the same things I do but they don't get called out like I have. Maybe it is because I am forceful with what I say more than other people are, or in the other words I put myself all out there making me a target. I am not afraid, nor will I be silenced. And I don't know what the f... is Flame Wars. I am not arguing politics or things not relevant to the forum here. You can't tell me that if I am attacked that I cannot respond. Instead, moderator, why don't you direct your comments at all the disrespectful, downright insulting comments that are being made. Try to do your job fairly. How about you tell people to pm me or others for personal comments! Hi mr1010. I have read a lot of your posts over the last few weeks and you seem like a good, honest type of guy. I seldom, if ever, get involved in other peoples rants, but just maybe I can bring a little reasoning to the negative postings you've been receiving. So here is my totally un-asked for, but hopefully not resented advice to give you a happier forum experience. You make a lot of good points in your posts. Unfortunately, you tend to post it as you would say it, leading to lines and lines of text and often meaning your point is lost or obscured. I suggest that before posting, you decide what point you want to make, and make it within a sentence or two. I also suggest that you stop defending yourself. If you look back over your posts, I think you will be amazed at how often you have posted long defences of your opinions. The quoted post is a perfect example. Had I been replying to this, it would have been four words -"No problem. Thanks Houlii". Remember, on an open and anonymous forum such as this, you will never, ever change people's attitudes or behaviour. I have never been attacked on this forum, but if it happens, my answer will be "Oh God, I really, really wish I was as smart as you :lmao: :lmao:" To me, this is a far better way to deal with haters. However, on the subject of haters, some of the guys you have been arguing with, in my experience, are really good guys. Worth keeping in mind that sometimes there is a good guy in a bad mood behind a tackless post! Also, sometimes, a reply that's intended to be helpful can come across as critical. A further critical reply to that and hey presto! flame war!! (By the way, a Flame war posting thread is at the top section of the forum page). So in conclusion, decide what you want to say before you start posting, shorten your posts to maximise effect, don't waste your time defending yourself, and don't have digs at the mods. Overall, they do a damn good job. And finally..............Smile :) :) :) :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Alright, upndown, I carefully read your post. I like your post. It is said in a positive way and is respectful and helpful. Actually it has good advice for me. I am older so I am not that experienced at posting, so like you said I write like I speak. I don't know the nuances of posting on forums. I think I feel the need to be expressive a lot and I guess many people don't want to deal with that. I guess I can be very defensive and protective. I make the mistake of thinking that an anonymous internet exchange is like a real life interaction. I would never ever take the things that are said here from people in person, but since this is anonymous people don't give a crap. I do the same thing on Facebook which I recently joined. I think I can influence people in political discussions on Facebook. What a fucking waste of time! I guess that is just what I am like personally, a person who is passionate in my beliefs, believes strongly in morality between people and am constantly disappointed by people. I try to hide it behind a mask of cynicism. But I am hurt. So, you see my problem here on CC is more in my dealings with people than just a sex obsession. I try to make friends on the site and several guys and gals are very respectful. But others are not. I must let it bounce off my shoulders more and not let it get to me. I also hide my insecurity by being very forceful in my defense, but what the fuck difference does it make? No one gives a crap. I really think my problem is more with CC than with VV. I could stop posting tomorrow and still watch, but I like the interactions with people. Again, thanks for talking to me like a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beancounter Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 mr1010 90% of the people on this board are good people. There are a few that are just assholes, they are people you need to just ignore and keep on being mr1010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upndown Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Alright, upndown, I carefully read your post. I like your post. It is said in a positive way and is respectful and helpful. Actually it has good advice for me. I am older so I am not that experienced at posting, so like you said I write like I speak. I don't know the nuances of posting on forums. I think I feel the need to be expressive a lot and I guess many people don't want to deal with that. I guess I can be very defensive and protective. I make the mistake of thinking that an anonymous internet exchange is like a real life interaction. I would never ever take the things that are said here from people in person, but since this is anonymous people don't give a crap. I do the same thing on Facebook which I recently joined. I think I can influence people in political discussions on Facebook. What a fucking waste of time! I guess that is just what I am like personally, a person who is passionate in my beliefs, believes strongly in morality between people and am constantly disappointed by people. I try to hide it behind a mask of cynicism. But I am hurt. So, you see my problem here on CC is more in my dealings with people than just a sex obsession. I try to make friends on the site and several guys and gals are very respectful. But others are not. I must let it bounce off my shoulders more and not let it get to me. I also hide my insecurity by being very forceful in my defense, but what the fuck difference does it make? No one gives a crap. I really think my problem is more with CC than with VV. I could stop posting tomorrow and still watch, but I like the interactions with people. Again, thanks for talking to me like a person. OK mr1010, Just a couple of points. Regarding being older, I'm in my mid-sixties, and I guarantee you that the large majority of people here are over fifty. Age is an attitude, not a number! Also, at our kind of age, if you still have a good appetite for sex, that is not an obsession - that is a wonderful gift that should be gratefully held in both hands! (but not too tightly)! Good luck!! :yes: :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Lol, upndown! You are as young as you think! I just hit 60 so I went through a little crisis, trying to think like that. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Thanks beancounter for the pep talk. Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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