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17 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

It's hard to stay relevant no matter how much sex one has. The trick is this, and I hope all of the tenants can hear me, YOU have to be an interesting person outside of sex. Whether it be your personality, your interests or talent, or your ever flowing sensuality, it has to come naturally and be compelling. Take Leora on RLC for example. She essentially does the same thing day in and day out yet she maintains a huge following. Why? Because her ever flowing sensuality comes out of her no matter what she does and it's naturally attractive. You have to be interesting in your own way. Eric and Layla frequently have good sex, but away from that what's to love? 

Hi Amy, i try to think what could they do that would be interesting other than sexual stuff, and i can't. And i'm not just talking about Layla and Eric. I mean all the folks in these apartments. Some of it is fun to watch because it's such a train wreck mixed with a soap opera, i can't help myself. Weeknights we sit around at night and watch tv or a movie, occasionally play a game, eat , sleep and have sex. Weekends we have people over sometimes, but all the fun we have is outside of our apartment. The idea that anyone might have sex, some really hot and sexy, some pitiful and ridiculous, is why i watch the rest of the foolishness that goes on. Without no sex at all, i would never spend any time watching what they all do.  Obviously sex is part of their lives, and its all laid out on here real or fake. I'm sure not too many on here now, but i'd like to know what anyone would find interesting for any of these people to do, That you would pay for without any sex?

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36 minutes ago, ashleyxyz said:

Hi Amy, i try to think what could they do that would be interesting other than sexual stuff, and i can't. And i'm not just talking about Layla and Eric. I mean all the folks in these apartments. Some of it is fun to watch because it's such a train wreck mixed with a soap opera, i can't help myself. Weeknights we sit around at night and watch tv or a movie, occasionally play a game, eat , sleep and have sex. Weekends we have people over sometimes, but all the fun we have is outside of our apartment. The idea that anyone might have sex, some really hot and sexy, some pitiful and ridiculous, is why i watch the rest of the foolishness that goes on. Without no sex at all, i would never spend any time watching what they all do.  Obviously sex is part of their lives, and its all laid out on here real or fake. I'm sure not too many on here now, but i'd like to know what anyone would find interesting for any of these people to do, That you would pay for without any sex?

The thing that gets most people to subscribe to any voyeur site is the sex. But after watching the same couples have sex on an almost daily basis, it can become stale. So the key to get those subscribers to keep their memberships going is to keep interest in other areas that isn't just sex.

Amy mentioned Leora. She's a great artist. Most of her fan base will sit there and watch her draw and paint for hours. Layne is a highly talented musician. I haven't seen him play much since having his own apartment on VH. But Dasha and Demid's place was always one of the top apartments in RLC when he would be at their parties playing music. Alina and Eugene's apartment was great when they had those girls stay a few days. And it wasn't just because of what they did in the bedroom. They had fun drinking and dancing. They always looked like they were having a good time. It was just entertaining to watch them.

As far as Eric and Layla go, they like to play strip games. We've seen them play cards, charades, the game they played the other night with the index cards on their heads. That's what I like about them. They know how to have fun and be sexy. Plus their parties are always interesting. They haven't had a party yet that didn't end in some sort of controversy. That might be why they haven't had one in a while.

Plus I don't speak the language. And that can make it kind of fun imagining what their saying when I really have no clue. But you are right. The sex is what sells. I don't think anybody would pay if there was no sex. At the same time you have to realize these are real people living real lives. You can't just flip a switch and sex happens.

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One thing about Leora, and don't get me wrong she is hot, is that in my opinion she is constandly aware of the camera's....
And that's what i like about Adriana on RLC for example, she isn't aware, she's picking her nose and eating like a dock worker.

 

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on the subject of what can be done besides sex & what would be interesting intertwining the real life of real people. one of the reasons that i liked zoe so much on vv was that she did normal things like cooking & cleaning while wearing no pants. or she wore nothing then got completely dressed to go smoke a cigarette, then returned to take her clothes off, then layed on the futon looking at the internet while highlighting her ass, strange that the normal everyday things with a little nudity mixed in makes a huge difference. once she & jack were in the kitchen having a bondage session & you could see that they really liked the thought of being seen. iris was also gr8 in this regard. she would cook, clean, read, etc while not giving a shit that she had no clothes on. she got off on the thought of being seen. once at boro she was having a long session with lex where they did a lot of shit and sonia's cat walked in front of the camera blocking the view. i thought she would throw the cat out because she was so into the exhibitionism. she loved the fact that everyone was watching & that made her happy along with everyone else. she & zoe were always trying to change their routine just enough to keep us interested while still doing the everyday things that were necessary. i don't see that really in any other people on these sites that i can think of except maybe leora. they are unique and somehow stay interesting while the other fade in & out or become dead weight like the boro gang who have regressed so much that even if they have an orgy or something they will find a way to make it boring.

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9 hours ago, Amy3 said:

You'll find lots of people who will argue that they are perfectly fine with watching their day to day liives. They'll deride you for any demands on the tenants to behave sexually. Remember this is their "real" life. Yeah, right, bullshit! The tenants know damn well where the camera are. They know the angles they reach and the quality the produce. Plus, they all are perfectly aware that they are being paid to behave provocatively and sexually in order to attract more subscribers. There are quite a few, what you might call "dead" apts. on RLC. Nothing can make me believe that these, virtually devoid of sex apts. get any views except for a few people checking to see if by some miracle something sexy is happening. So, your question, "What are we left with?" is the 64 thousand dollar question. Let's face it watching a coulple bounce up and down for a long period of time over and over again gets boring, yet look at the porn industry, it's still freaking huge even though it's all the same damn thing. I'm gonna get slayed for saying this, but I've often thought that these voyeur sites are the end run for porn addicts. Basically, this is where porn addicts go to die. Ok, whatever, the question remains, what can they do to keep us interested? My answer is quite simply this, personality, drama, and sensuality. You can read into that what you want, but therein lies the truth. Think about this. Rather than seeing Eric humping Layla over and over again wouldn't you like to see Layla laying bare breasted on his chest with her back arched, whispering sweet love and kissing his neck? Ok, that's just one thing, but still they need to be interesting outside of sex. One of the reasons I love Anna so much is because you never know for sure what she is plotting. There's always a hint of mystery and intrigue. A constant "what's gonna happen next" feeling. This is what's lacking in most of the apts. it's drama pure and simple. Humans want to see situations fraught with danger and excitement. They want to see things they can't believe. They want to be freaked out. Most people are so boring that there's no drama at all. This is why coupes only apts get stale. Personally, I wish they could intermix more singles in these apts. Particularly, very good looking singles, who can push the couples into stretching themselves out out of fear of cheating or maybe just to jump start them. The perfect personally for this cam life is someone who literally gets off knowing others are watching and also has to ability to elicit fun out of others. Anyways, I could go on and on. What do you think?

I agree with everything you said. I don't want anyone to get the impression i'm putting anyone down in these apartments for not being overly interesting. I said it about myself, it would be boring watching me, because we just don't do a whole lot at home. Obviously the language barrier is a huge problem for rousing interest. If we could understand what everyone was saying the drama element would be through the roof in some cases. The funny thing is, some of the people that should be the least interesting are such a train wreck, they get a lot of interest and comments on here. Personality, drama and sensuality are big reasons for watching these folks. If all i thought was good on here was the sexual stuff, i would watch porn. So it is a combination of both that draws us into these peoples lives. But my point about not being interested watching what goes on here without ANY sexual content is the truth. We need an apartment with hot hetero guys, say 3 of them could be interesting. And Amy, we have seen Layla lying barebreasted on Erics chest with her back arched, and it's sexy and romantic. 

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10 hours ago, heineken said:

The thing that gets most people to subscribe to any voyeur site is the sex. But after watching the same couples have sex on an almost daily basis, it can become stale. So the key to get those subscribers to keep their memberships going is to keep interest in other areas that isn't just sex.

Amy mentioned Leora. She's a great artist. Most of her fan base will sit there and watch her draw and paint for hours. Layne is a highly talented musician. I haven't seen him play much since having his own apartment on VH. But Dasha and Demid's place was always one of the top apartments in RLC when he would be at their parties playing music. Alina and Eugene's apartment was great when they had those girls stay a few days. And it wasn't just because of what they did in the bedroom. They had fun drinking and dancing. They always looked like they were having a good time. It was just entertaining to watch them.

As far as Eric and Layla go, they like to play strip games. We've seen them play cards, charades, the game they played the other night with the index cards on their heads. That's what I like about them. They know how to have fun and be sexy. Plus their parties are always interesting. They haven't had a party yet that didn't end in some sort of controversy. That might be why they haven't had one in a while.

Plus I don't speak the language. And that can make it kind of fun imagining what their saying when I really have no clue. But you are right. The sex is what sells. I don't think anybody would pay if there was no sex. At the same time you have to realize these are real people living real lives. You can't just flip a switch and sex happens.

Hi Heineken, i agree with a lot of what you say. And i didn't mean to sound like these people are personally boring. I was saying how much can anyone do that so interesting, you would pay to see it without any sexual content. And i personally believe it would virtually no one. Most anything we do of any interest is out of the apartment. Being home is just hangin out, watching tv or a movie and other mundane activities during the week. The weekends may be more, but not anything anyone would pay us to see. I wasn't really saying everyone is on here just for the sexual stuff, or they could watch all the porn they want for free. So it's a combo of both that makes it interesting. The language barrier really cuts out a lot of drama that is going on obviously.

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10 hours ago, heineken said:

The thing that gets most people to subscribe to any voyeur site is the sex. But after watching the same couples have sex on an almost daily basis, it can become stale. So the key to get those subscribers to keep their memberships going is to keep interest in other areas that isn't just sex.

Doesn't get more true than this statement right here.

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3 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

@ashleyxyz Something to always remember is that most of the tenents grew up in a completely different environment then you probably did. Most of them have no skills and no job or any prospects to get a job. Life before cam life likely amounted to drinking and fucking and that was about it. Expecting them to be intellectual or otherwise interesting in some way outside of sex is probably asking too much. I know this, if one wants to make a career out of camming, they better learn one skill, and that is intrigue. That is, be able to create a series of "what's going to happen next" fevers in the mind of the subscribers. That's what sells. That's what makes this different then porn. That's why I'm here.

Exactly. I guess that's why the silly4 or the silly 6, whatever it is today, are having such a problem being interesting at all. Imagine, free rent, and get paid. And for whatever reason, as bad as they are, im rooting for them to get something going. And for some reason i am intrigued by what they are going to do day by day. I must be a glutton for punishment.

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1 minute ago, Amy3 said:

The Silly 6 are an enigma. It's their niche and it why there's hundreds of pages of comments about them and not nearly as much in the other apts. As much as we complain about them, they are still there getting views and the majority of our interest. Anna is the master of intrigue. 

That's why I said a while ago that the Anna apartment is the most interesting apartment overall. They don't have the best tenants. But they have the most intrigue.

Eric and Layla were right up there when they were throwing parties every other night. Angie fucking the guest was one of the hottest moments on VH, if not the hottest. And it was practically set up by Eric and Layla. But the fallout from that was a disaster for them.

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What I want to see is people having fun - girls looking sexy like Sveta does most of the time, she will change clothes several time a day from street clothes to super sexy. Sex is good but not hiding in closets or in the dark or under blankets. But most of all have fun enjoy life. these get paid & rent free & food. If I was in my 20s I would do this in a heart beat and love every minute of it.

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