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11 minutes ago, darkman said:

Martina's conversation and concern has to do with the economic status of her parents, it seems that they ask her to help them, and she feels bad about it, she and her sister soon became independent from their parents, and her brother he is at home at the table set without working, that's where the shots of the conversation go.

Can't believe I am reading this a 2am Tuesday morning but it is a must that Martina and Alberto assist her parent!!!!!

13 hours ago, JenniferMom said:

Anyway ... apologies for starting this but as always this is what makes this interesting and fun for me.  I'm not even sure we have confirmation that Nelly and Martina are even together this weekend.  Where are our trusty translators?  I know, I know ... they have stopped assisting us because we don't respect them or something like that.   

Just a thought but the probability and likelihood they were not together is slim but could have been good for each. I am sure the forum will dissect the timing of their return, items of clothing, trinkets, etc. Also, if they were together, could it be not only for the activities together but perhaps about how to bring the relationship performance back to the camera? Once again it would be all about the money.

I do hope if Martina went home, she made time for her family!

11 hours ago, JenniferMom said:

I am referring to any sex between Martina and Nelly ... if it is happening ... why do they feel they must make love off-cam ... when their on-cam love affair was one of the best RLC moments of all time.

I’ve enjoyed your commentaries and threads,  though-out the forum today! Excellent! Thank you. However, Is there indeed the concern Martina and ugly Nelly are or are not engaged in the act of sexual activities, or just concern they are not engaged on camera? Martina is bi-sexual and a sex addict, of course sex is included with whoever she is with off camera for that time alone.  She has cravings for Nelly and Luis; travel, one bed, one room, why not?

In my opinion it is the few that continue to adamantly express abstinence between Nelly and Martina and even Luis, that we are aware.  And when the topic is raised (the two + few) rise to defend Martina and badger others as though she was the purist person on the planet. She isn’t, she knows it and these few attempts to conjure belief otherwise are futile. 

While a great deal of your commentaries theoretically stipulates excellent wisdom, fine oration, could they be interpreted as conjecture or the infamous “speculation”.  Just a thought. 

Also, Alberto is a mysterious individual of which we have provide much disapproval of him for not working or traveling with Martina for the need to be responsible and spent time with his old friend who has since passed. Shortly after the death of his friend (Blackie) he did secured work in short order and is reimbursing his friend Martina her loss funds to there venture and to working to leave RLC, with or without her.  A landscaper, not an easy job. He is as I read, responsibly, respectfully up daily, riding his bike, rain or shine to get to work.  

Lately, on Martina reading the self-help books, is she trying for the quick financial independence and also contemplates life without RLC dependency. Although, I would believe she realizes the need for RLC to finish school, yet could she be tarnishing, adding interruptions to her future through social media and videos? 

Thoughts? 
 

On 7/23/2022 at 12:28 PM, FrankZabba said:

nobody knows anything for certain about martina's life off camera except martina and possibly nelly.  good post though!

Thank you and you are correct about the actuality of Martina’s life off camera. We should all not be concern as it is her life on or off camera. However, for me it is troubling that such an intelligent person that indicates she wants to be successful in life may also be responsible for her uncontrollable, her short fall.

Could it be the whole bi-sexual situation is more disruptive than she knows? I do not believe anyone cares that Martina is Bi, in fact there are probably readers of the forum that may be Bi. 

I would like to see Martina and Alberto succeed in life after RLC. The utmost disconcerting entity about Martina is that she may not only be focused on the relationship with Nelly but at the same time delaying her future along with someone else’s relationship for her own desires. 

While most believe you live life for the present, shouldn’t one also consider life for the future….. 

I am sure those of you that enjoy the porn side of RLC and Martina, plus others will disagree. Wait for it!

Just being on RLC (considered a porn site) for as long as she has could be a disruption for her future goals after graduating school and a successful life thereafter if the goals still exist. I continue to say social media has a great deal to play in one’s life and the videos are out there for everyone to see and judge. 
 

5 hours ago, philo said:

I think that in order to understand why Martina and Nelly no longer have sex on camera, one has to understand the psyche of the Russian Male. I think that the comments on this forum comparing his ability to satisfy Nelly with Martina contributed to the diminution of Bodgan's self image. Bogdan may have exerted whatever authority he has at RLC for forbid it but only on camera. It is obvious that he condones Nelly having sex with other people. The evidence is when he waits up for her and she comes home butt naked with her clothes under her arms. Think of how Putin would have handled the situation and you have a clue about what Bodgan would do.... Control the media....that includes the people on this forum who are tasked with that assignment.

Your comments and thoughts are worthy. Do you know of Bogdan’s position at RLC? Is he a manager working daily hours or is he still doing odds and end here and there?  Does he have an investment in RLC? 

From reading a few of the threads about Martina, sadness, and possibly slight depression, she may be the next to “Crash” as did Nelly. I hope not.  She appears to be strong conceptually but with the possible physical, family, monetary and subjective tension, it could happen.  Martina seems to need the social simulation and I am not reading she is doing the overnighters lately now that her dance (and whatever else) partner is suggested to be out of Barcelona.

Regarding visitation between Martina and Nelly, the rules may have changed to Martina’s favor with regards to Bogdan’s apparent approval to have sex and seeing Nelly, sex if it is off camera. Also, off camera mean RLC is no longer liable for what occurs if disturbing. 

Another question, I have also not read Bogdan and Nelly are having sex on camera? Does that mean they are not having sex or no longer on camera?  Although, previously when I had a subscription, and she was seeing Martina regularly, she was bating regularly. I would venture to say that most likely she has not stopped but not as often.  
 

11 hours ago, Ash1 said:

She's with Martina, visiting Martina's hometown.

From time-to-time Nelly or Bogdan leave for a day or two with little to no baggage and return.  While no one in the forum cares to hear, the subscribers continue to pay Martina and Nelly their salary, on or off camera, also for their trips.  Could it be that Martina did not leave Barcelona to visit her hometown and instead remains in Barcelona with Nelly at there private place? It is that get away from the men for some girl time @JenniferMom mentioned.  Of course, unless you know for certain this is where they have gone. 

1 hour ago, daerjohn2015 said:

We are going to have to look after the fish again for a weekend.
It's about time Alberto started realizing that life with Martini was impossible.

I apologize but for the record her stage name is Martina. And I believe Alberto has already that bit of knowledge about his friend. While we know a lot about Martina, we know very, very little of Alberto in comparison. 

7 hours ago, Ash1 said:

She's with Martina, visiting Martina's hometown.

I had not read but was there a sex session between Alberto and Martina before her departure. The sex or "oil change" as @girlsfun2 refers to it,  is a good sign she is either preparing for an “All Nighter” or “Departure” for another big adventure, leaving her dog and friend behind. Of course, the sex is to acknowledge her only financial means which she can certainly depend on from the loyal RLC subscribers. More videos for the vault?

There is no doubt Nelly and Martina have become good friends (similar to her and Alberto) and deserve each other (like her and Alberto). She will continue to read and gain the knowledge needed to become financially independent, take care of Nelly, and ride happily in the sunset with her deep friends Nelly and Luis.  

I am hoping they can one day be together for always and perhaps we will see Nelly urinate on Martina's apartment floor. Wait..that will not happen, Martina will have Nelly trained by then.  

Regardless of who she is with, I hope the trip was not self-centered, but to visit with her family (especially to check on her father and brother)

14 hours ago, emnv said:

Just the weekend

Thank you so much for the great information...

17 hours ago, JenniferMom said:

I generally agree that Martina and Nelly has cooled but I still think your “nothing to see here” perspective has some clear flaws.

Do you really think Alberto would do anything for her?  ANYTHING?  I don’t see it.  But it is hopeful that he has a job now and is focusing on improving his life.  That is important to Martina.

The all night partying is still my biggest concern before I can be firmly in Camp DeepDave.
 

I don’t think Martina and Nelly are “cooling it” because of Alberto or Bogdan.  I think Martina realizes what is simply sex to her is having more meaning for Nelly and she does not want to complicate Nelly’s life any further.  Clearly Nelly doesn’t care about Bogdan and it seems like Martina is more sensitive to Bogdan’s feelings than his own wife.  Nelly may be awesome in bed but Martina realizes Nelly isn’t capable of a sex only relationship.

 

Say all you would like, believe all you would like, see what you see, I think Martina and Nelly have learned to play the game much better than us all.  ......Maybe Alberto and Bogdan as well. 

5 hours ago, Adalbert said:

yes the fishes and not to forget Dani and Taco...but for sure we are waiting for Martina to return. Let's see if she will be back today (was her plan) or tomorrow. 🤗

Good Morning, I can see how she would not be in any hurry to return. Although, I am hoping Martina returns revitalized, she stays on RLC for as long as necessary.  However, I am also hoping the self-help books (Tony Robbins, etc) encourages and advises, if to achieve financially self-regulation, she no longer resorts to any deterrents such as exposing herself sexually on RLC.  No more on camera sexual activities! 

I am sure you all will agree that you would like Martina’s hard work to yield her success in the area in which she is pursuing with her education. She should refrain from the risk of being an attraction on social media, RLC as it may affect her life goals, a good job, her own business, financial independence, etc. The RLC videos are forever and could become very detrimental. 

There is no need for Martina to engage in these sexual shows to stay on RCL; From what I have read there are quite a few girls on RLC that do very little and are still being rewarded monetary; why should Martina participate unless that is what she wants and feels she must.  
 

35 minutes ago, FrankZabba said:

from what i've read it sounds like martina really likes the gay guy (don't remember what you all call him) so maybe she took him on vacation to try and fuck him straight.  what do you think about that possibility?

I believe she has already fucked him (in fact most likely many times). Wait for it! However, without hearing or on camera visual activities it is hard to provide evidence. 

 Is he (Luis) gay or is he bisexual?

Alberto may be aware she is fucking Luis (and everyone has an idea but won’t comment). Alberto doesn’t care if she’s fucking Luis, as long as the on-camera porn show between them continues to satisfy RLC subscribers. It is all about the money here. With no job, how else is Martina going to pay for those fun vacations and school? 

Perhaps the Robbins readings will help increase her financial stability, thereby relieving her of RLC. It would be great to hear she is no longer on RLC at last!

12 hours ago, berty_47 said:

I’m sorry, after sending my post I can’ see anything. However, piedpiper1968 answered to my post.
Very strange. Next and last try.

It seems some forum members disappeared…..

tle wrote: We never see any of the other girls just sitting down and reading a book.

This is not entirely true, see Leora et al. However, the special thing here is what kind of book Martina reads. Martina is always good for surprises: she is reading the book for days, even at night: IMBATIBLE, La formula para alcazar la libertad finaciera.

Available in English as: Unshakeable: Your Financial Freedom Playbook, by Tony Robbins, an American author, coach, speaker, and philanthropist.
In German; Unschlagbar, Die Formel, um finanzielle Freiheit zu erreichen

Wow, my compliments to Marina, she has the power to change her life.

I wish you much success.

Accolades too Martina for always seeking to enhance or improve her life. If she would just leave RLC.  Does anyone know if Martina has mentioned some of the thoughts from the Robbin books too Alberto or Luis? Or was Luis the one that suggested the book?  Where is Luis lately? Anyone know? I have not read Martina has been out dancing lately, is it because Luis is absent for the moment? 

On 7/4/2022 at 10:25 AM, tle said:

We never see any of the other girls just sitting down and reading a book.

Agree.  Do you ever see Martina listening to Podcast? They are mostly free and make for a good equilibrium to reading.  There are also a great collection of interesting, subject discussions and intellectual topic that can be retrieved in Barcelona. 

On 7/2/2022 at 5:11 PM, emnv said:

Yes, I can confirm it.

Martina and Alberto stopped talking on the phone when they realized that she was at home and he was coming in.

You should grow up a bit and stop spouting nonsense here.

Wow! Is that a translation. You are with little talents, but you can now add child psychologist to you porn addiction profile. 

11 minutes ago, emnv said:

Yes, I can confirm it.

Martina and Alberto stopped talking on the phone when they realized that she was at home and he was coming in.

You should grow up a bit and stop spouting nonsense here.

Since it was Alberto, perhaps you can honor the forum with the translated conversation. 

More Martina secrets:  Saturday at 21:20:32 Martina is speaking with a male on the phone, thought to be Alberto. Alberto returns at 21:21:57 Martina quickly hangs up the phone with whomever she is speaking with in the middle of the conversation. Can someone confirm this happened? 

It is Saturday close to noon here; currently cloudy and about 90 degrees. It's another hot day.  I just received a email that Martina did not go out tonight and instead stayed in playing video games and watching movies. She also did not have any early morning phone conversations. In fact the note said she made dinner for Alberto. If true, I wonder what bought that on? Is she starting to realize Alberto is the good guy that he, that he is working hard for her love now and for the future.  I wonder where might she be or what she would be doing without him? Better or worst!  Has she decided to show him "love" other than just having sex. Is this the start of doing more with him than without him? Or is this the quiet before the storm. Another trip with another male friend perhaps in the works?

2 hours ago, JenniferMom said:

I noted the seriousness too which would not be what you would expect if the other person was a love interest.  The exception to this is a discussion on where this relationship with the love interest is going.

For all the reasons @chuck206 describes and the note from @A Gid Scots Laddie regarding the denial of so many on the forum, that place her on the “do no wrong list” or “look the other way”, why would there not be another love interest for Martina (male or female). Though we may not know if there is another love interest; Martina may have a need to satisfy, perhaps something to prove, and no one will circumvent her from the path in doing what she wants; when she wants. 

It is hard to say what is really occurring with the conversation since there has been no visual validation, or what most on the forum consider conformation by the reputable translators. But you have to give M&A credit for starting another chapter. 

As you say Jen and I have been saying (perhaps more to the point) anything is possible.  

Someone just asked if the call with Martina will resume tonight or this am if Alberto goes to bed? Thoughts
 

33 minutes ago, yelt said:

Yes, Good thought and there could be some suspicious. She could be having a conversation with her dad or her brother...but if not, perhaps the soccer friend I mentioned, or you would be correct who else?

However, she could be re-igniting an old long-distance relationship? Who knows? It is so outside of my realm to think about unless it is proven she did not go to Croatia but another destination and Croatia was a diversion. Again who knows and your translators are not telling? Wait for it...

1 hour ago, tle said:

Wouldn't that be the best time to talk secrets?

Another thought. From all I’ve read and continue to read, sounds like a lot of games being acted by Martina (maybe Alberto is aware), to keep RLC and the forum interested, protect their privacy and to keep the money coming in. 

Also, can you imagine if your father was in prison and you find out he has cancer, your brother is having troubles and Martina get a call from a friend, accusing her of being, what is it "a Puta" for being on RLC. Not necessary.

If she is having an affair (so be it) and keeping it from Alberto (not so good), she may not only be speaking with someone in those early morning hours, if they are close in location she could begin increasing her overnight to daylight activities regularly to more than just weekends. Patience.  

One thing is for sure (no evidence, no proof, speculation) as I continue to read, Martina and Nelly may be showing only friendship on camera (smart) but I now believe base on what I read about the last visit to Nelly's, they are still having sex as well.  However, they are going through a lot to have everyone watching believing its friends only. 

49 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

Who talks to their families about family secrets between 2 and 5 AM?

Yes, Good thought and there could be some suspicious. She could be having a conversation with her dad or her brother...but if not, perhaps the soccer friend I mentioned, or you would be correct who else?

However, she could be re-igniting an old long-distance relationship? Who knows? It is so outside of my realm to think about unless it is proven she did not go to Croatia but another destination and Croatia was a diversion. Again who knows and your translators are not telling? Wait for it...

2 hours ago, A Gid Scots Laddie said:

an actual full blown affair is my bet ?

Don't think so..  She could have been speaking with a soccer friend or her dad. Who knows; only Martina and I think Alberto, maybe @Deepdave and his friend.  Everyone has secrets!  Martina might have some family secrets that could be painful and should be best left to her and family. 

3 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

She's going to need a few more beers if she is working up the the desire to do that guy.

Wow! I got a chuckle before work. Thank you. 

Could it be that the two are really good friend? He is a good guy and lucky to have Martina as a friend. He took the time to watch Taco during the day while she was traveling and until Alberto arrived home from work.

It appears they’ve known each other and Alberto for a while.  The rubbing and touching are a part of Martina’s personality, her signature. He would be no different than the guy in her group with Luis that grabbed both breast one night and watched her go to the bathroom. 

He is not THE GUY or one of! Just another very good friend.  Post a message when they start watching porn.
 

17 hours ago, MountainSwede said:

Reflecting on my post about "escorts" and the ensuing discussion, I'm thinking that as a part of Martina's tourism training, (think of it like being an intern) she takes clients to late night party spots.  She surely has experience with these various venues and all the hot spots each day of the week.  In the tourism world it's called a "Fam Tour" or Familiarization Tour for a travel agent to gain knowledge about the location, special events and maybe get a kickback from nightspot owners.

Good Thought!  Thanks

1 hour ago, Adalbert said:

😂 you joke think you should read my post properly.

Ahh..I see. I apologize otherwise. Thank you 

12 hours ago, Adalbert said:

Don't think so, the topic was often discussed  but might fit more  for some of the russian girls 😉

Your response to @MountainSwede regarding “escort” work, is very disturbing. Borderline discrimination. As if to say only the Russian girls would be in that line of business.