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People on the forum are expressing jealousy not only towards Dylan, but to just about any male tenant. Who hates which guy the most can vary and can partly have to do with attitude, but generally: more successful with girls = more hate & jealousy. So Dylan gets a lot of flak. And if unsuccessful or performing poorly in bed, they get ridiculed. Face it: this forum can be rather toxic, and you are part of that. There was jealousy of male tenants long before Dylan, and there will be long after he's gone. Naturally, no one ever openly admitted being jealous on here (as far as I know). Which in fact is a statistical impossibility. I'm not even a fan of Dylan, or any other male tenant. But if not hating someone equals being a fan of him to you, so be it.

Hyperbole. Look it up.

"Don't answer this?" You think you can order people around here? I get a mental image now of you covering your ears and yelling "lalala! I'm not listening!" The jealousy card may be old, that doesn't make it less relevant. On the contrary. You're not the first or only jealous guy on here, and you won't be the last. Also, you or some fellow incel did bring up rape, or at least abuse/harassment. You are adding nuance now, but that was not the case originally. And the (false or true) rape charge of your friend that you mentioned, illustrates what I've said before about your likely hang-ups (mental blockade) about seducing women. Just to be clear: Dylan did not even harass Shantal. She liked what he was doing, but stopped him from going further on cam (because she's shy to have sex on cam, not because she doesn't want him: she does, at least for once). And he abided by that. A good rule of thumb is: if she keeps smiling/reciprocating in some way, you're not harassing (although you might choose to pause for a while to make her more eager, or she might prevent you from going further but be fine staying on the current level like cuddling naked & kissing). If she clams up, becomes unresponsive, stops smiling & reciprocating: then you should of course stop immediately & not insist and probably leave. I hope this tip will be of some utility in ameliorating your sex life without having to fear charges. The whore thing was just a suggestion, a pre-emptive counter of a possible argument you might use. Which was clear if you took the time to read my comment adequately instead of rushing to an emotional answer. In other posts, you also like to depict me & others who don't agree with you as machos. I can only speak for myself, but am anything but. You're more macho than I am in how you think you can decide for a girl that a guy goes too far with her even though she's smiling & playing along. This indicates that you have a macho-like lack of respect for girls making their own decisions, but want to impose your paternalistic view on what is "proper". Now if that isn't macho...

So, you really think Shantal is going to or even might accuse Dylan of rape / abuse? If she wouldn't, this whole issue is moot. And if the answer is negative, maybe you could accuse her of being a whore?... You were right in not liking what Veritas had to say about Aziza (though you probably share his opinion on Dylan), but you realise you're getting dangerously close to his views in this situation? Not there yet, thankfully, but getting closer... He also denied being jealous, if I remember well. I hope you never get accused of being a stalker, trying to "protect" some girl (who never asked for your "protection") from an "evil rapist".

Your observation isn't very keen then, or she'd be an Oscar-level actress.

Thanks! If I had any reaction emoticons left (I don't), I'd have thanked you for this post! The problem is some guys don't read the longer posts (like yours) here, and talk without getting the nuances of posts in their eagerness to express their prejudices. Hence they continue to yell "rape" or "abuse" where it's completely unwarranted. They should just ask themselves the question if Shantal would agree with their assessment. Of course she wouldn't, but what a woman thinks doesn't matter in their little paternalistic wannabe-macho incel minds.

And that's why you're (probably) still a virgin, or at least have very limited experience with women: This whole situation has absolutely nothing to do with rape, yet you & a few fellow incels are bringing up rape continuously. There's probably some "blockade" in your head that says that if you ever had sex, you might/will get accused of rape, and you project that fear & frustration to other (more sexually successful) guys.

Some men here should finally lose their virginity. You or Xarvaz or Fagen etc don't decide if Shantal likes his advances. Only Shantal decides, and she likes it. She just won't fuck him on cam (at least for now). Just remember that someone like Veritas (whose opinions you don't like, with good reason) would be on your side in this. I actually wonder why he hasn't commented yet. Either he's getting a much-needed break, or he only cares about Aziza in his love/hate way and the relation between Shantal & Dylan doesn't interest him. So stop being so paternalistic towards her. Paternalism is also a sign of being a (wannabe) macho. She's a big girl who can make her own decisions. She doesn't need you guys to decide for her whom she'll let into her bed.

I don't remember calling her a nun or saying she should go (not about any girl - or guy - in fact). Actually, I'd like her to stay! But also get less cam-shy; she's already improving in that department but fucking (& bating without blanket) on cam unfortunately still seems a bridge too far for her... What the two groups (Shantal haters & Dylan haters) have in common though, is frustration & negativity... I try to avoid these.

She might not act like a virgin off cam... (and probably doesn't). So I'd not be surprised if they had sex off cam. But of course we wouldn't know, or maybe only indirectly by hearing conversations about it on cam.

It's obviously the cameras. She even took a long time before showing herself naked for longer than a few sec in the beginning, showered in the dark & with bad lighting etc. But way to go to just throw around baseless accusations like you did in the bolded part. It tells more about you than about the guy you're accusing.

He'll probably get accused by some guys on the forum of trying to steal her phone now! 😉

It's true Lacrim has his haters as well (all male tenants in RLC villas do). I don't particularly care for him, but don't think I've spoken negatively about him either. I'm just not the mr complainypants type. I might make fun of him though: humour is always better than hate or anger. 😉 He comes across as a bit dodgy or awkward sometimes, but I'm sure he'll get kicked if he crosses a line so I don't worry too much about him (or Dylan, or any other male tenant). Advice some people should take to heart, for their own mental health & blood pressure.

It is of course up to Shantal (and she'll only fuck Dylan off cam I'm afraid), but I do hope they fuck on cam just to make the the lynching mob piss themselves with frustration and anger. 😄

It was to be expected exactly this (yelling rape/abuse) would happen. Some eternally virgin witch hunters just can't help themselves... 😉 They don't even care what Shantal's position is or what she thinks, they just want the "witch" (warlock or wizard, in this case) burned.

That's because you're wrong (& jealous) and you know it. You sound like a boarding school principal discovering two teenagers in bed with each other.

Who did Lacrim have sex with? (missed that part & no replay, sorry).

Of course it couldn't be long before the hater mob started preparing torches & pitchforks no matter what. Anyway, she wasn't drunk, is awake and smiling. But to hell with what she thinks for the envious incel lynch mob, right? Remember guys: he's not actually buggering any of you, so you have jack shit to say about what he can do. The only arbiter of that is Shantal herself, and she's perfectly fine (I still doubt we'll see sex on cam though, but if we do, it will be because she's OK with it).

He did. "Trying" is not crossing a boundary as long as she plays along a bit, which she did. She stayed all smiles throughout. He stopped where she wanted him to stop, just not before 😉. Not that this will stop his haters from complaining, but I saw nothing to accuse him of, or kick him out for. Now they're just sleeping next to one another peacefully. They might very well have sex off cam later (good for them, less so for us, but it's obviously a boundary for her). Happy now? (probably not...)

Yes, and he respected that in the end. But you can't blame him for trying.

She knew his reputation before she got into bed with him. I think she's attracted & curious. She didn't only hear (& sometimes see) about his many bed partners, but also about his performance & size down there, after all. The problem is she doesn't want to fuck on cam. Off cam, she'd have fucked him, and perhaps she will in the future, but probably not for us to enjoy... 😞

While the winner is only second to last!

The remaining girls (including from other villas/apts in BCL) should wrestle naked to establish who gets the master bedroom after Aziza is gone! 🙂 Dylan could be the arbiter. Or maybe Milena: she already has the master bedroom at B2. Events like this might increase viewership?... 😛

Again, in 100 % agreement here, and not even being funny. I think this guy really needs help before he finds out where the RLC apartments are. Seriously. I would not feel at ease as a tenant (especially Aziza or Dylan, but actually any tenant) reading his continuous vitriolic bile. Not promising anything regarding your comments on other subjects though. 😉

You know I rarely agree and even clash regularly with you kris66, but in this case I agree with you completely. Funny return, too. Your wit is improving! 😉 I would even have upvoted your comment, but I'm out of reaction icons for today (funny how there's a limit on those). I upvoted some of your reactions in the past though, despite vehemently disagreeing with, or ridiculing, others. I judge each comment on its own merits, regardless of who it comes from. I mostly agree with you regarding Veritas & Lacrim (although his guest gf is not bad, maybe she doesn't know him that well). Otherwise, not so much. But you know that! 🙂 May I add I really hope Veritas doesn't know or find out the location of the RLC apartments. He sounds like the type who might do who knows what... Not kidding this time...