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Shear speculation here. But my guess is that they have some contractual obligation to the studio they are camming from. Some minimum number of hours or shifts at some set rate under the Linda Lawrence profile. They had some very nice photos done, likely at someone else's expense.... IF I'm guessing right, then once that's covered I'd guess we could start see them camming from the apt. But who knows. CB is the only site where they're using anything but Nina And Kira is the profile name As far as I know.

Nope. And DE was just a friend, never a resident. So she's never had a "real" name.

Fair enough. And no, not a long time VH user. So I'm here because N&K have come to VH. I've checked it over before and it didn't really appeal. When I sub'd to RLC believe me it wasn't for the Barca loungers. And VH will only continue to keep getting My $$ while they stay. See, it cuts both ways 😁. Of course N & K want the $, from VH. VH wants the subs $$ N & K will bring in. The folks running VH can viewer analytics as well as anybody else. They can no doubt tell exactly who is viewing whom, when, sign-up and retention and churn rates for each house. And if they don't my consulting rates are reasonable, although I'm picky about where I'm willing to travel. But N & K are neither Broke nor Desperate, and as you say their own mangers ( so no cut to a middle man) and pay their own rent. They also have other incomes. So, while they may "adjust" a little, i doubt it will be that much. Naked/topless around the apt was a pretty regular thing. And they're a married couple in a relationship for 8 years. So, the sex, while pretty regular, a'int exactly an hours long bangathon every night. 🙄 So like what and who you like, and maybe watch that . We're all entitled to our opinion and to express them. I certainly won't say you have to like them. Oh and ninja'd by Strumchaser on the Kira's brother thing.

And I think the other was somebody's brother or cousin or something.🤣.but that does not mean that they will orgies together . And there is the problem for the VHTV partisans I think. I've seen a lot of "VHTV is this, VHTV is that, N&k better bring in some dicks and party, get with the program or they'll fail.". These women are who they are. Coming to VHTV is a 2-way deal. Sure they their reasons for signing on, but VHTV knew exactly what they would and would not be getting when they signed them on. Neither party is stupid here. And if, as someone has implied, it's personal between the owners of RLC and VHTV?

And lest anyone take me the wrong way, or misunderstand. I like and care for them both. I don't judge them for the choices .....

Domy, if an apt were in say Lyons, or Chicago, you or I could say more from direct listening right? Knowing the mother tongue can make a big difference. But, as you imply, anybody can have an agenda. So, everything with a grain, or 5, of salt, eh?

Amy3 & Sofie, very interesting perspectives. Insight looking from opposite sides of the same coin. I can only say that having been in Kira's place in a previous relationship, I understand both the appeal and the nightmare.

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Doh! Yep, sorry my sarcasm detector's burnt out again. 😉 Long Day.

Well not financially, by multiple parties at once. IE: the % cut takers gang banging..

Hammer down and up shifting to Flight of the Valkyrie, huh? I like.😁

Oh God!. I remember the balloons. Yes, there were the years of crap jobs. Because even if the rent was paid by RLC, girls got to eat right? I think there is other better work now. Good jobs are not easy to find, even for those with education. "Connections" of the right kind are very important. And they earn extra money to support their artistic projects as much as the other way 'round.

Exactly! Popular success does't mean great money.... Especially when your music has elements of "Social commentary".

They're artists and lesbians, in Russia. Not an easy thing to be in uncle Vlad's Authoritarian Kleptocracy. It's also not their only means of support.

Hmmm. That's what I get out of google translate ( Eng to Fr) for "Son of Bitch". Can't say I disagree.

Well, I'm pretty sure a good bit of the laughing is with, not at. Some of the PMs with their long time fans can get kind of goofy. And they are running on 3 sites, at least, with different lags. So who knows quite what they may be laughing at when you or I hear it.

Definitely! A much better set up than the one in the RLC apt.

When the tenants are really broke and desperate. And open to being exploited..... Is one way to look at it.

Seconded! And well said Sturmchaser. Geez. The drama you miss getting a decent nights sleep (EST). Newbie to this forum maybe. To this marvelous pair of lovely creatures? NOT! Hopefully the new digs will be set-up and on-line soon.

5 hours ago, StnCld316 said: I'd buy them a Pizza. Triple Cheese with Anchovies. Right thinking people, Both of you! 😊

From what they said tonight, it's a "House" profile of the studios. I suspect they'll be up under a different name of their own on CB from the apt. If they continue on CB.

The girls are online in chat now.

Well the devices themselves certainly are real. And do work as advertised; I've been lucky enough to play with one. That was inside somebody that is. 😊 But I do get what you mean about CB, MFC and those types generally not being at all real. Maybe 4 years of history watching them on and off makes the real vs show clearer with N & K. Or not, who knows. They are pretty, non-plastic, and fun to watch regardless.