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for the record, there are other members who have been banned and exist here under new accounts. i'm certainly not the first or the only one. like you said though, it's up to the admin to decide how to deal with such things. I know very well that at any moment a sword could spear me. In some ways it makes it more exciting and fun for me. 🤗
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Karolina & Hasan (2020) Part #1
Amy3 replied to Just In's topic in Karolina & Karleon - (12/04/20 - 02/05/21)
Exactly! And to be fair this manager must get some credit for having the thickest of skins of all of the managers, not to mention his crew. He and his team get ripped all the time. But, you see, they are smart, they know how to play the game, and they are the ones winning! VHTV probably thinks it's hilarious too. I hope they do. I mean how could you not. 🤑 -
Karolina & Hasan (2020) Part #1
Amy3 replied to Just In's topic in Karolina & Karleon - (12/04/20 - 02/05/21)
...because the manager makes more money this way and in turn VHTV does too perhaps? -
Karolina & Hasan (2020) Part #1
Amy3 replied to Just In's topic in Karolina & Karleon - (12/04/20 - 02/05/21)
I kinda feel sorry if there is someone out there who might actually enjoy these characters. They would be walking into a lions den if they dare try to enjoy it here. Meh, maybe no one like that exists, but still the point remains. It's not everyone's cup of tea but it might be someone's. -
Sorry, was writing my post while you posted this. I didn't see it before I posted.
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and without Harley the RLC forums turn into a total borefest. For a very long time he has been the friction that keeps that wheel rolling. He deserves a free membership and a pat on the back for all he has done for CamCaps. The job of a forum isn't to make it a peaceable kingdom, it's to allow for peoplle to express thoughts and ideas even to the point of pissing people off. It's up the members to be able to stand their ground and play the game too. It's for the moderators to step in when things go too far. This strategy of maintaining the calm is killing your site and your internet ranking is the evidence of that. 20k to now almost 100k in about 6 months is a substantial drop. Surely you have to be asking yourself why that it is?
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Karolina & Hasan (2020) Part #1
Amy3 replied to Just In's topic in Karolina & Karleon - (12/04/20 - 02/05/21)
This is the future of vhtv's progression to live action voyeur porn. It will only get more and more like this to the point of on demand broadcasting. It will get there. -
The difference is the number of members and the structure of the conversation. Within a club one can essentially build an identical forum as the public forum and make themsleves Admin. I know because I have done it myself. I actually ran a fairly large forum inside of a club once. Then as public members prove themselves worthy they can be beamed up into the promise land of the good stuff and the public forum suffers the loss. The number of members in clubs is not small. The number of posts in the clubs is not small. In my view they are a theft of the Admin's site in the sense that they steal away his reportable content that has an impact on his internet ranking and ad worth. I find it very odd that he seems to not care about that. The drop in ranking is sustantial since the inception jabbath's club in particular. It's not that I'm upset that I am left out. I don't want to be in a secret club. I guess my issue is that these clubs steal members and content away from the public forum. They make the members of the club somewhat not their true character in public as they are in the safety of a club. I know what happens in clubs and they are not always so kind to members who are in the out-group. The brotherhood of a club sets up a dynamic that has predictible consequences that can and do come across as bullying towards non-members. If you cannot see this born out in the public forum, I would say your not looking at it through the proper eyes. You, I know, visit the clubs quite frequently and so you in my view you are corrupted by them as they provide access to information and content that you would not other be privy to. You too must be one of them else risk the loss of access. I do not think that a moderator should participate in clubs. You don't participate in PMs, so you also should not be a member of a club because it skews your objeectivity.
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IMHO, the posters in RLC seem to be able to tolerate harsh comments much more then VHTV posters. just my observation. i won't say why i think this way.
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ok, thanks for the clarification. the point remains, if earning views is important to you, as I'm sure it is, then announcing your limits is not a good strategy when gaming for subscriber views. i would imagine that there is a large segment of subsceibers who are hoping for more. if you tell them the limits of what they can expect then you are cutting them off from viewing you at all. it's an unnecessary risk just to get people to stop posting comment about being dissappointed. this is a forum topic with your names on it, but it doesn't belong to you, it belongs to us and what people say in a forum is fair game to to the point of insulting you in some vulger manner. to make it short, it makes your seem thin skinned and it's costing you money. i'm just trying to explain how things work. you are free to do as you please. please don't be upset with me. i am not trying to be offensive in any way.
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the answer is quite simple. the members of the club are in the in-group. you are all part of a brotherhood now and the access to the top level information and content keeps everyone in order and friendly. i know this very well because, as you may or may not know, i was once in a sort of over the public forum club too and i too once did the same kinds of things that you guys are doing now. i know that it feels good to belong to a team of like minded others. i guess for us lowely individuals down here, we have to wonder why you don't just stay in your bubble of perfection free from friction, criticism, or disagreement? the members of the other clubs don't come here to announce such things as you just did. they are invisible and they don't poke at other non-members. i can only read one thing into your comment and that is just another snide remark toward those who aren't privliedged enough to be in your click. it's actually very childish. everything i predicted would come of this club has come true. there are inherent dynamics that naturally come with such orders and yours is no different. i accept that you guys have a need for such a place in order to be your true selves and express yourselves outside of the scrutiny of other members who would otherwise disagree or god forbid be privy to some bit of insight or knowledge. i hope that it makes you happy. i'm not angry or upset about it, I'm just expressing my views. have a nice day!
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A rant topic to talk about clubs. @StnCld316 I guess whenever the discussion becomes about clubs you can ditch it here. I hope that incudes when the clubs members start to feel special and let everyone know how much better they are then everyone else. Surely anything like that goes straight into being off topic.
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day 2 on prednisone. still nothing. my head is still buzzing like a top. sleeping with rain sounds at night, but it's only partially effective. it's been a week now and i am seriously worried about my future. if the volume turns up 1 or 2 notches i don't think i'm going to be able to take it. i'm actually pretty scared. i hope this treatment works.
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Maddy & Rocco (2020) Part #1
Amy3 replied to Just In's topic in Maddy & Rocco - (11/28/20 - 09/06/22)
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Karolina & Hasan (2020) Part #1
Amy3 replied to Just In's topic in Karolina & Karleon - (12/04/20 - 02/05/21)
my issue to is with the manager. my intuition tells me he is not a decent person and it concerns me that he is the type who would take advantage of his staff. i don't like to see people living in apts who appear to be told to work the cams all day. that's not a job, that's a slave. -
Indeed, there are categories of tenants, but if there is almost universally an expectation of some sort of sexual exchange or progression when there are more then 2 people present. They are telling us that there is no hope of that happening, so your comment about becoming more uninhibited fell on deaf ears. They are telling people not to waste their time hoping for that and that want people to stop expressing their dissapointments. I think that is a bad idea and it will cost them some part of their audience. I do agree that couples like them make far better voyeur tenants than professionals.
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I'm not upset or trying to instigate anything. I actually prefer apartments that host monogomous couples. I'm just trying to explain the consequences of tenants sniping back at people for daring to have expectations of them. You are free to do as you please, but telling people that you aren't going to have sex with other people undermines the general interest in you. In my opinion it is better to tolerate the criticism of those kinds of people who view your cams, that is, pay you, then it is to admonish them and dash their hopes for something more only to see them walk away from your cams completely. of course, what i say implies that you have an interest in maximizing your revenue on vhtv. Be aware that virtually every time that there are more then 2 people in your apartment, the average viewer is hoping to see some form of sex exchange among all present and when it does not happen they will be dissapointed. It's just a natural fact. I wish you all the best. ♥️
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I appeciate your comments Dave. I feel so misunderstood so much of the time. I know that i earned the mistrust of everyone here. i understand what happened very well. I would love to move on and ve able to just post my thoughts without always being suspect of some devious plot. Maybe time is the only way I can prove myself. I don't want to be enemies with anyone and I don't intend to offend anyone. I'm going to be very careful what and how I say things. I first have to convince the Admin not to ban me again. After that, I'm fine. I'm fine with being the black sheep. By the way, in reference your comments, what is happening, and what I have tried to argue, is a phenomenon known as ingroup favoritism. "This refers to the fact that under certain conditions, people will prefer and have affinity for one's in-group over the out-group, or anyone viewed as outside the in-group. This can be expressed in one's evaluation of others, linking, allocation of resources, and many other ways." The clubs here have become an in-group and the public forum has become the out-group. The results are predictible and discriminatory and somewhat destructive to the group as a whole. It's unfortunate and I know their existence is largely my fault. There's nothing anyone can do besides the Admin and it appears that he is fine with things the way they are.
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Harley & Freddy (2020) Part #2
Amy3 replied to life+90's topic in Teresa & Sergio - (11/08/18 - 04/13/22)
i'm sure that money is not the issue and i'm sure the next apt will be amazing. the issue is "the appearance" of a lack of interest in the project itself. they may say that they are, but they don't look like they are. for me, they give off a somewhat "i'm bored of this attitude, but i guess we don't have much of a choice". i can say the same thing about Ary and George as well as Mira and Henry and some others. They have all been here so long that perhaps it's inevitable. i'm not suggesting any of them leave, but i do think they could all use a reboot of sorts. i hope they come back with some vigor and happier faces. -
Harley & Freddy (2020) Part #2
Amy3 replied to life+90's topic in Teresa & Sergio - (11/08/18 - 04/13/22)
i don't think the shape of the apt is the issue. maybe they are rich now and less motivated,but to me they appear withdrawn and bored of it. i think they keep leaving hoping to refresh and then they return only looking like they wish they weren't back to work. can't blame them, i prefer vacation too. -
good night. i hope that you have a lovely day. 💋
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thank you waldi. that was exactly my point. it's not trollish, it's the hard cold truth. tenants would be wise to refrain from declaring their limits. it doesn't stop complaining, it stops viewers from watching anymore at all. the only part about what i said that i would say differently would be that it is stupid to have expections. while it may be stupid in a sense, because as you say there is no menu, but it is also totally natural to hope that something more will happen, especially when guests are invited. pretty much everyone does this. this is so much of what watching these sites is about. instead of stopping agressive commenters who may be dissatisfied with the result, from complaining, all she did was declare their apt maxed out and that these viewers should just leave and explore elsewhere with their hopes and dreams.
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that is beautiful. thank you ooopel for sharing something nice for me. i love you. 😘🌺
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tell me what said in my comments to her that could be considered trollish? it's so easy to just call me a troll, but it takes a decent person to back it up. nothing i said to her was intended to be mean-spirited towards them. i even made it a point to say so. you guys need to be careful cause your hatred for me is leaving an impact on your own appearance for others who may not be so privlidged as you guys are. tell me what i said that was trollish.
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without @HarleyFatboy, the RLC forums die a painful death of boredom. a forum needs friction to be successful. harley should be given a free membership and an award for what he has done for camcaps. the result of a frictionless forum may be a moderators dream come true, but without it you get this. 👇 that number was about 20k earlier this year for reference. harley, you are a bad ass and i have nothing but respect for you. ♥️♥️♥️ This site ranks: #97,532 in global internet engagement