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Thank you omedo for helping out here. I do remember the Sept.24th meeting between N&M and it happened as explained. I don't rememner the events outside as apparently that was off-cam. I did sense the tension inside the apartment and finally should have realized right then and there that the romantic relationship between the two was over...perhaps I did not want to admit it to myself. But now I can accept the fact that its over and Martina is most likely the one who ended it. The affair itself will still go down as one of the greatest in RLC history in my opinion. I know some won't agree with that but it captivated me for a long time. Thanks so much for yours and others input to clear things up.

I too apologize for my wording...I got overly emotional and shoudn't have'. I won't let it happen again.

Because it was off-cam? What was off-cam...the conversations or the post? What a convenient answerthat you can't answer that directly. I have always tried to be respectful in all my posts...go ahead and find one where I haven't been. I think your remarks about me being a dickhead speaks more about you than me. Take a look at my past posts vs. yours...you are constantly more antagonistic towards others than me. and I won't follow your path on that. And about me making up stories, well, I don't make up anything,,, I only give my take on what I undertand...and sometimes I'm wrong. and do speculate which is not "making up stories". .its just trying to make sense of the soap opera that RLC has become. So when did you become a member of RLC? Are you still a fully paid member entitled to both full membershio and replay membership? Anyway,so looking up your posts...well, I guess you've never "speculated" about anything right? Thats not what I find. Just back off here..you don't have the resume to criticize anybody for expressing their opinion...just accept their right to do so, like most of us here do... without trashing them. But maybe your one of the gifted few that respect and tolerance don't apply to. I mean no harm here but I think you might be more tolerant of other members here. And please, stop being an asshole!

Nope, and that's why I'm asking for a documented translation from September.

So, when did he/she post this absolute translation? I was on vacation for over a week and I might have missed it, but I stlll can't find it in any past posts on Martino/Alberto posts. i

To clairify my last post, meant to say I intended "no disrespect" in my words.

So, where did you hear that Martina said she didn't miss Nelly? My question is the same as I asked earlier, can you document a trusted translator's post that now says not only that Martina's "concept of Nelly" became "really bad" after a "great fight downstairs" ? What argument was that? Can you let us know when there was documented evidence of that argument.. no replays that I have still available show that conversation between Martina and Nelly......unless you recorded something I missed. And secondly, what documented translation did you read that Martina was no longer seeing her ÿoung classmate"? I guess I missed that translation too. No respect intended, but are these your documented translations or are they your personal opinions...speculations?

Are you saying that you were privy to a Russian or Spanish translation that was posted here on the forum that clearly said that the relationship between Martina and Nelly was over in all respects...that there was no longer ANY communication between them of any sort? Or are you saying that only the sexual part was over? I think I might have missed that translation and would appreciate it if you could clarify what respected translator said that. Or is your post just your opinion? If it is, that's ok...we all have our own opinions right? I have no way of knowing what the status of their relationship truly is without visual proof or a legitimate translation of a conversation between Martina and Nelly, Bogdan and Nelly, or Martina and Alberto.

Hi yelt, I like your post especially the last part. I never thought of RLC maybe being legally responsible if something happened to Nelly while she was a participant. That's a new train of thought that I haven't seen before in the forum...It makes a lot of clear sense from a legal point of view. The publicity of a bad event is alone a reason for RLC to be careful. Although I now wonder if RLC will instruct participants to no longer associate with Nelly...right now her and Bogdan are visiting Gina. A very weird decision by Nelly and Bogdan after Nelly's horrble evening there a couple of nights ago. Bogdan needs to "step up to the plate" and at least try to get Nelly to seek professional help. I think that Nelly just getting a job is not enough to control her alcoholism and possible drug abuse. Thanks for the insight and original thought of your post.

Hi Jen, Well, I think I agree somewhat with your post especially as you point out that Martina is basically a kind and compassionate person...she has shown that side of herself over and over again all these years. I also have a hunch the sexual relationship with Nelly has been over for the past month or so. But I also think that they are still friends. My reasoning (or speculation) for that is that Martina still cares deeply for Nelly and because of that she would want to help Nelly with her alcoholism. I don't think she would just walk away from Nelly and leave Nelly to struggle with her issues all by herself. I would hope that at the very least she, and Bogden, would try to get Nelly into some type of rehabilitation program. I'm not sure what type of programs exist in Spain but there must be some. I kind of think if Martina did see the video of Nelly's stupor at Gina's, even though disgusting, that that would motivate Martina to reach out to Nelly even more...I mean they were lovers until recently. It just seems to me that would be a natural thing to do. Of course, almost everything we write here is pure speculation and I agree again with you that it is not only fun to speculate but allows all of us to cast our opinions about the ongoing soap opera. The one thing that gets in the way of course is the lack of conversational translations in both Spanish and Russian...you've been saying that for awhile now. We all know that RLC is overtly opposed to Russian translations but being able to get just Spanish translations would be a huge help in letting us know for sure what's going on with Martina and Nelly. I'm not sure why we don't get more Spanish translations...it seems like it only comes from two people on the forum but you'd think that there would be a lot more people here that could tranlate Spanish for the rest of us. I wonder, does RLC have a fierce enforcement policy there also? Who knows right? Anyways, I'll shutup now but thanks for your post as usual.

Hi Alladino, Well, we're on the same wavelength I think here...I'd give almost anything to see the lovely Eva again. No woman has ever moved me more than Eva in terms of sensuality and kinkiness. She might be one of only a handful of ex-RLC bisexual women who can keeo up with Masha and match Masha's kinky side. If she came to Masha's without her boyfriend, I can only fantasise as to what could happen. Its great to hear from someone who remembers and appreciates how unbelievable Eva was with both men and women. Thenks for your great post. I

Thank you.

Hi ddhm, I totally agree. Let's face it, Martina has all the attributes of a perfect RLC woman...she's maybe the most physically attractive woman on the site, totally uninhibited with her nudity and sexual desires, a bit kinky, and is bisexual...what more can voyeurs ask for? Of course there are those who dislike her escapades outside of her life with Alberto, and that's fine...each to their own... but many here don't. And, when she has had a bit too much to drink, well, anything is possible. She has an enormous sexual libido. Of course there will need to be some physical attraction to someone in B4, probably to another woman, and as yet that doesn't seem to have happened. There maybe is a chance with other Barcelona apartments but the language barrier there could really be an issue...although she did study Russian language in school and Nelly did teach her a bit of Russian to improve their language barrier. But in the end, sexual attraction does have a universal language, and that hopefully will happen again here. But who knows right? My guess is that if Nelly remains in Barcelona, Martina will not have any sexual contact with other women there. I have always felt that both women are deeply in love with each other and nothing will break their bond other than their current partners. I still suspect, without prudent evidence, that they are still seeing each other off-cam...probably wishful thinking though. Anyway, thanks for your post.

Hi girlsfun, I don't think Martina goes to school on Friday nights. Earlier this evening her and Alberto returned home together, she took a shower, had what looked like a serious conversation with Alberto, and then she left. Of course we have no translation of their conversation so I don't want to speculate. She's not at the party so she's probably out with friends right? And on another subject I brought up about a language barrier with Radi,, I do appreciate others questioning Radi's Spanish abilities but I watched and heard a couple of Radi's conversations with Martina and one was at least 15-20 minutes long and there seemed to be no language struggle at all...but again I don't speak Spanish so other members here might have caught something I missed. As a side note, I follow your posts about B4 and Martina and enjoy them...I like your insights.

Hi Jen, I have question for you or anybody else who might want to chime in: this party seems the perfect place for Martina to be at. So my question is: Was she invited and if not, do you think that her days of being invited to B4 events are over? Or do you think that maybe she's not interested in going anymore since Nelly is gone? She always seemed comfortable in B4. She seemed to hit it off especially well with Radi at a couple of parties as Radi spoke Spanish fluently. Just trying to get some opinions here. I'm kind of disappointed not to see Martina at the party.

Sorry all for the double posting...my laptop had a hiccup.

I definitely agree with you Alladino. Annabelle was always very interesting and a talented musician...and she was a wonderful exhibitionist who was sexually uninhibited. Eva was my personal favorite women on RLC and to this day I feel she was the most sensual, sexy, and kinky bisexual woman ever to grace RLC. And of course she was absolutely beutiful. She is was most similar to Martina today...she always had many kinky bisexual surprises that never, ever seemed fake. As far as another past woman in the old Russian apartments...that gets tougher. I know a lot of subs still really like both Leora and Masha...and they good reason to. But In addition to Eva and Annabelle, Id give the nod to Jane of Jane and Dick fame. Although not as good-looking as Eva or Annabelle, she was flat-out erotic and very kinky with many, many bisexual and heterosexual adventures...quite a few with Masha when Sasha and Dasha were around. She also had a taste for younger women which played out a number of tmes and was very erotic.

Another great point Albundy. I understand how it may be difficult for RLC to resurrect "the old days" from Russia as Jenn suggests, which I don't disagree with. But to me, there is no attempt on RLC's part to do that...I mean is it THAT hard to find openly erotic couples with a female bisexual partner who enjoy being sexual exhibitionists, no matter what country they're from? I don't think Russia has a monopoly on those type of couples. When it comes to Pseudo Lesbian Shows I've got to say that in all the years I was lucky enough to view the Russian apartments, those type of "shows" were never prevalent like now as the lesbians or bisexual women in Russia seemed like the real deal... I never, ever felt they were fake. I think that's what you mean about the quality of RLC then vs. the VHTV junk now.

Hi Albundy, You might have a point there about Martina being the head of HR. Her perspective as being a very good looking bisexual woman with a strong sexual appetite might just be "what the doctor ordered". Thanks for that creative idea...something needs to be done right?

Hi ddhm, Of course only my speculation, or fantasy, but I think if Martina ever met Eva from Russia...now that might cause havoc, in a good way. Both are so very open, funny, erotic as hell, bisexual and very good looking...maybe a match made in heaven.

Hi Jen, I've been limiting my posts lately in order to take a little break from everything. But I agree with you here. I have long believed that adding more couples where the females are bisexual is what would drive up new interest in RLC a great deal. Someone earlier suggested that Bogdan/Nellyfic be relocated in Barcelona and paired up with the terrific former Russsian couple Jane and Dick. Great idea, but might not work as by all evidence Bogdan is not into any type of "swinging". If I could control things, which obviously I can't, I would spare no money and convince former Russian couple Jane / Dick and Eva ( with her new boyfriend) to come out of their RLC retirement and either relocate them to Rome so they were near Masha, or relocate them to Barcelona to be around the couples there. Either one of those scenarios would most likely livin' things up a whole lot as Jane/Dick and Eva might have been the most openly erotic participants with bisexual women ever on RLC. If current RLC subs never saw Jane/Dick and Eva/Sam they can find old videos up to June 2019 on the internet. There are no better examples of what RLC is at its best in my view...of course you have to be into bisexual women to appreciate that. I really like your idea of getting Jane and Dick back near Masha as that combo had some pretty serious "fireworks" between them when Jane and Dick travelled from Russia to Rome. I just wish RLC would explore the possibility of re-recruiting these Russians. Oh well, at least we can fantisize. Thanks for your thoughts on again.

What a GREAT nickname Harley! I haven't posted anything about Nana yet as I don't find her interesting, although she seems like a nice person. But if I do post, it will probably be due to something she does or is part of that crosses the line, and I'd like to borrow that nickname...just hilarious.

Hi Jen, Well, well...seems like I might have started something here that I really didn't intend. But now that its started let me make a clarrification. For quite some time now I have used the word "soap opera" to describe what the hell was going on primarily with the Martina/Alberto and Nelly/Bogdan thing. I meant that in a good way actually because I really, really thought it was fun to watch. And like you just said, these two couples seemed "authentic"...even though some here don't really like any of these four people. I still believe that the Martina/Nelly thing is authentic, even though I still profess it was an accident RLC didn't expect. What a great opportunity for a "real live soap opera" without a script...at least for a while. I mean, Hollywood writers could not have done better. So my attitude has always been to sit back and enjoy it for what it is...a real life drama. I get your point about how very few people have experienced the kind of stuff Martina and Nelly have gotten into so maybe it seems less "real" . But that's exactly the reason people seek what they don't quite understand. Its what creates drama. Its what creates food for the voyeurs like us. Now do I think there is a possibility that RLC could have already gotten involved with "scripting out" the Martina/Nelly affair? Sure, and of course, we the paying customers would suffer most from that. I want this "authentic" drama to continue because as a voyeur, its more than fun...semi-addictive if truth be told. So thanks again for your great post. A lot of us here are on your wavelength. Keep them long posts coming...they're really fun to read on a rainy September day.