thedbear Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, jjkopite said: Sorry man, I enjoy a drink or three but I have never lifted my hand to a woman no matter how drunk I have been. I have dealt with the results of too many cases of domestic violence to have any tolerance for it. Well, I do not drink and as I've noted above, there are few who keep their control. Apparently, you're one of them. But taking the hook you observe "domestic violence" and really believe to the letter, I ask? Did we see blood, purple spots on the body? Bruising or any physical damage to the ability to stand or move? On both sides (battered or aggressor)? Yes a "real" physical damage and my vision changes completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thestarider Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 hours ago, nazimakbulut said: If you go from the house to the rock, you should go to anastasia, anastasia that started the real events. I don't know what you watched but I sure did not see that, He started to scream at her and got up in her face screaming insults I presume, I'm sure he provoked the first physical contact from what I watched 4 times on the replay, He threw her onto the bed and slapped her in the face first, she retaliated by and slapping and kicking at him, it stopped and they stood up as the other girl came in from other room to show support for her, He again got up in her face and was screaming extremely loud at her inches from her face in the most degrading way. She did slap him in the face, and he again he retaliates by punching her in the face and knocking her a good 4 to 5 feet to the floor across the room. For those of you who did not see this, close your eyes and visualize as you read what I have posted. Do you see it? Can you feel it ? Can you hear it ? Can you ? There is NEVER an excuse for a man to physically abuse a woman for any reason......... period ! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ze81 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, Thestarider said: I don't know what you watched but I sure did not see that, He started to scream at her and got up in her face screaming insults I presume, I'm sure he provoked the first physical contact from what I watched 4 times on the replay, He threw her onto the bed and slapped her in the face first, she retaliated by and slapping and kicking at him, it stopped and they stood up as the other girl came in from other room to show support for her, He again got up in her face and was screaming extremely loud at her inches from her face in the most degrading way. She did slap him in the face, and he again he retaliates by punching her in the face and knocking her a good 4 to 5 feet to the floor across the room. For those of you who did not see this, close your eyes and visualize as you read what I have posted. Do you see it? Can you feel it ? Can you hear it ? Can you ? There is NEVER an excuse for a man to physically abuse a woman for any reason......... period ! Hep,I didn't watch a lot but that looks like rock..several times seen him screaming right in the person face(mostly Anna). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, Thestarider said: I don't know what you watched but I sure did not see that, He started to scream at her and got up in her face screaming insults I presume, I'm sure he provoked the first physical contact from what I watched 4 times on the replay, He threw her onto the bed and slapped her in the face first, she retaliated by and slapping and kicking at him, it stopped and they stood up as the other girl came in from other room to show support for her, He again got up in her face and was screaming extremely loud at her inches from her face in the most degrading way. She did slap him in the face, and he again he retaliates by punching her in the face and knocking her a good 4 to 5 feet to the floor across the room. For those of you who did not see this, close your eyes and visualize as you read what I have posted. Do you see it? Can you feel it ? Can you hear it ? Can you ? There is NEVER an excuse for a man to physically abuse a woman for any reason......... period ! x2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, Thestarider said: There is NEVER an excuse for a man to physically abuse a woman for any reason......... period ! If she hits him first then all bets are off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medeoxxx Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 ... Russian women say: if a man beats you, it means the man loves you!.. He drank a lot of alcohol!..mysterious Russian soul!.. Let us not judge strictly... this is their mentality... it is their love!.. and this is real life, not theater!..mysterious Russian soul!.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thestarider Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Just now, miscvoyeur said: If she hits him first then all bets are off. Bull shit !!!! No excuse for a man to impose his overwhelming strength on a woman by punching her. I suppose we should go back the cavemen days and beat them into submission with clubs HUH ? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjkopite Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 1 hour ago, thedbear said: Well, I do not drink and as I've noted above, there are few who keep their control. Apparently, you're one of them. But taking the hook you observe "domestic violence" and really believe to the letter, I ask? Did we see blood, purple spots on the body? Bruising or any physical damage to the ability to stand or move? On both sides (battered or aggressor)? Yes a "real" physical damage and my vision changes completely. Domestic violence or abuse does not have to be physical, it can be mental !! Bullying, intimidating behaviour, undermining someone's confidence or belittling them in public or in private all fall into this category. Are you saying you have never seen Rock controlling Ana by these means? I certainly have. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medeoxxx Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 "You will not grasp her with your mind Or cover with a common label, For Russia is one of a kind..."... (the famous Russian poet Tyutchev ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nounou Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Guys stop this argument rock love Ana in his way he couldn't share her with other he is rockhead and he behave like idiot i didn't like him on this Apt im in love with ana. She slap him, he punsh her (this is violence and it is not acceptble ) he feel guilty she did every think that she shoudn't do it she fuck other men just to punish him. She know that he is not with swapping he let her fuck the guest but he didn't like that. He Was piss she did some think without his permition. From what he sow, he understand that the relation is over, she act from her self like he is not there.he feel guilty he delete every think he saw and kiss her and act normale, After that nothink was ok in his mind, he didn't find some one to talk to him to set every think up. He went to nyu but she was sleeping and didn't want to be include. Ana get up ans take a pick and listen to what he speak, After a minute they ( Ana & rock) talk two or three word and he go to the kitchen. Every think stop there to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedbear Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, jjkopite said: Domestic violence or abuse does not have to be physical, it can be mental !! Bullying, intimidating behaviour, undermining someone's confidence or belittling them in public or in private all fall into this category. Are you saying you have never seen Rock controlling Ana by these means? I certainly have. Yes, look (out of curiosity) my posts to the other apartment, before Rock is away for a while. I think I was one of the most "rabid" at this stage. . And look at my posts after this occurrence. What I observed. See more here in this forum (pag): 35 (all) and 38. Understand, what bothers me, is that here is almost always guilty, before questioning reasons for innocence. Juri executioner and "hangman" in the majority. Very few doctors or advocates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjkopite Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Rock has been judged on his actions, it is never permissible to use physical force on a woman. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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