Robwin Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, golfer06 said: i guess everyone is asleep now but i'll put in my 2 cents anyway.......................................... No there is one idiot still awake following this saga lol. As you said cleo was really wanting Oscar especially after playing with his dick for a few minutes but i think the alcohol got to her soon after and it all fell apart. When they finally got to bed i think Oscar was having a fiddle with her down below briefly and then started to fondle her tits but by then she was gone and then woke up and rushed to the bathroom where she still is though think she will emerge very soon lol. Was a shame as cleo was really up for it with Oscar but with Axel being there and no doubt not agreeing nothing happened which is a shame as could have been a good night. i think its only a matter of time before cleo gets her way with someone though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robwin Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Sounds as though she has nodded off in the bathroom now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groomy Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 The reason is similar to Clara and Stas. Time for closed couples is passed. After a few months. Though you do anal sex, even though you are 10 out of 10 in appearance, even though you are great lovers. It stops working. Or go to swing (or other chip - which will generate subscribers interest) - or pack your bags. Therefore Clara and Stas - Cleo and Axel = take steps towards in hard swing with exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, groomy said: The reason is similar to Clara and Stas. Time for closed couples is passed. After a few months. Though you do anal sex, even though you are 10 out of 10 in appearance, even though you are great lovers. It stops working. Or go to swing (or other chip - which will generate subscribers interest) - or pack your bags. Therefore Clara and Stas - Cleo and Axel = take steps towards in hard swing with exchange. That's pretty obvious at this point. Even Ary and George I feel are trying to move in that direction. I think they're going to be the next couple that makes that step. As for Cleo and Axel, like someone said earlier, it would have made more sense for them to experiment with Clara and Stas since they have the most experience with them, rather than this guy who they have only had one or two encounters with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robwin Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 2 hours ago, miscvoyeur said: That's pretty obvious at this point. Even Ary and George I feel are trying to move in that direction. I think they're going to be the next couple that makes that step. I find this debate now rather sad that subscribers are not interested in couples any more, the reason being is that it would seem what people want is more depraved action like gangbangs, group sex and swinging. In other words what they want is porn, porn & porn. All I can say is be careful what you wish for. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sparkles Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 7 hours ago, groomy said: The reason is similar to Clara and Stas. Time for closed couples is passed. After a few months. Though you do anal sex, even though you are 10 out of 10 in appearance, even though you are great lovers. It stops working. Or go to swing (or other chip - which will generate subscribers interest) - or pack your bags. Therefore Clara and Stas - Cleo and Axel = take steps towards in hard swing with exchange. Agree.. and both couples seems to be "forced" to do the next step to survive.. The problem is when they do it what will be next??? Cam shows??? Renting the house for sex??? because they will struggle again like others did and leave In the end hope that they don't end like katie&phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robwin Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Following my last comment I do find Groovy' s comment very sad as it would seem many people are never fucking satisfied, carry on like this and you will run out of sexual options and eventually the whole project will just die as people will want things which just don't exist. In fact i don't think many people now even know what they want anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfer06 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 the more that i think about the "need" to have constant orgies the more i really don't think that it is allways necessary. however it could be very helpful to have something extra on occasion. i think that couples such as cleo/axel, clara/stas, ary/george, are still hot & relevant. however some have been hot & have stopped doing what got them there. those guys are going down & probably can't recover. the ones who will stay sucessfull are the ones that can resolve to maybe be a little more daring while still holding the knowledge that they are still in a committed relationship. ann & alex went through their insecure period. i'm sure that all of the people who watched them on vv remember the carmen episode. they both realised that what they had wasn't working & tweaked it a little so that they could enjoy themselves with others while being fully committed to each other. couples like the ones i mentioned, i think have the potential for doing that. cleo & axel are a good couple & last night was affected by a little too much booze. now that it's over i'm sure they will be fine. they obviously care about each other a lot. meanwhile they are still hot whether they do full out swinging or not. jmo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 52 minutes ago, golfer06 said: the more that i think about the "need" to have constant orgies the more i really don't think that it is allways necessary. however it could be very helpful to have something extra on occasion. i think that couples such as cleo/axel, clara/stas, ary/george, are still hot & relevant. however some have been hot & have stopped doing what got them there. those guys are going down & probably can't recover. the ones who will stay sucessfull are the ones that can resolve to maybe be a little more daring while still holding the knowledge that they are still in a committed relationship. ann & alex went through their insecure period. i'm sure that all of the people who watched them on vv remember the carmen episode. they both realised that what they had wasn't working & tweaked it a little so that they could enjoy themselves with others while being fully committed to each other. couples like the ones i mentioned, i think have the potential for doing that. cleo & axel are a good couple & last night was affected by a little too much booze. now that it's over i'm sure they will be fine. they obviously care about each other a lot. meanwhile they are still hot whether they do full out swinging or not. jmo. Fully agree 👍 Same for Clara & Stas and Grace & Jacob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Robwin said: I find this debate now rather sad that subscribers are not interested in couples any more, the reason being is that it would seem what people want is more depraved action like gangbangs, group sex and swinging. In other words what they want is porn, porn & porn. All I can say is be careful what you wish for. I can't speak for anybody else. I've never expected or "demanded" orgies from tenants. If it happens then good for them. There are some couples like Mira and Henry who genuinely enjoy them and I think they're awesome. But for me personally it isn't something that's necessary. I don't even particularly find a lot of them all that great. Having said that, I have never cared for monogamous couples, and this is goes back way before VH even started. And I do agree with Groomy that monogamous don't last long, and in my opinion they shouldn't last long. I don't really care how hot the couple is, how many times they fuck or how hot the sex is (there have been very few exceptions of this) if you relegate yourself to only fucking one person then in my eyes you have nothing really to offer. I never watched this apartment until last night and like most people I found last night to be pretty hot right up until I figured out nothing was going to happen with him. Hopefully this doesn't deter them from wanting to try to experiment with people in the future. They were the number 1 apartment on the preview list for the majority of the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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