Maturin Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said: I have no idea who Alex Jones is and have no desire to know.So you are the only true fact holder,right? Your ignorance of what is actually happening in America is amazing. "2500 children kidnapped"?By who? Seriously? What do you call it when children are taken by force from their parents? I guess for you it depends on the colour of the childrens' skin. Your ignorance is just tiring mate. You aren't very good at this whole debate thing, these threads always seem to go well until you start typing and lower the IQ level by about 50%. You don't have to do this, it's obvious you're getting pretty annoyed, perhaps at your lack of ability to express yourself in a decent manner? You don't have to do this, step away! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 48 minutes ago, Maturin said: For exactly the same reason that Foamy seems to think it is acceptable to imply that the US would have been better off to stay out of the two world wars. Implying that we owe you a debt when the US was part of an alliance. No, I don't hate the US at all. I hate small minded right wing bigots and unfortunately your country seems to be led by one and the most vocal people of your nation also seem to be small minded right wing bigots. And if you are not actively speaking out against the overt American neo-Nazis that are walking your very soil then you do not get to invoke the sacrifice of much better Americans than exist today against the original Nazi tyranny. What is really nice to see is the decent people in America that are resisting Trump and the right wing bigots - the rest of the world considers them the true Americans and that they are the people that are really standing up for the fine notion of what you call America values. American neo-Nazis are a pathetic joke and almost all Americans have no use for them. Associating Trump supporters with neo-Nazis is just a tactic that the political left uses in this country to smear anyone who supports President Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Ridgerunner said: American neo-Nazis are a pathetic joke and almost all Americans have no use for them. Associating Trump supporters with neo-Nazis is just a tactic that the political left uses in this country to smear anyone who supports President Trump. "There are good people on both sides," Donald 💩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Maturin said: Seriously? What do you call it when children are taken by force from their parents? I guess for you it depends on the colour of the childrens' skin. Your ignorance is just tiring mate. You aren't very good at this whole debate thing, these threads always seem to go well until you start typing and lower the IQ level by about 50%. You don't have to do this, it's obvious you're getting pretty annoyed, perhaps at your lack of ability to express yourself in a decent manner? You don't have to do this, step away! 😂 Kidnapped? Our government went to Central America and took them from their parents,right? You are stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said: You are stupid. That thing again, remember... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Maturin said: "There are good people on both sides," Donald 💩 He was speaking of people who were for and against keeping Civil War monuments in place,not neo-Nazis.That's what the march was originally about and the neo-Nazis joined the march because in America we have the right to express our opinions no matter how repugnant or stupid they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said: He was speaking of people who were for and against keeping Civil War monuments in place,not neo-Nazis.That's what the march was originally about and the neo-Nazis joined the march because in America we have the right to express our opinions no matter how repugnant or stupid they are. The march had nothing to do with decent people, decently marching to keep a monument glorifying those that fought on the side of the slavers (first point, do you see the disconnect between "decent people marching" and the reason for this march?) The march was organised by white supremacists and other fascist terrorist groups such as the Nazi element in order to come together under the purpose of Unite The Right - the right in this case being all the extreme right wing terrorist organizations that you have in your country now. Trump knew this very well as the KKK and other fascist groups have been some of his most vocal supporters. Stop lying, either to us or yourself, there were no decent people marching under the Nazi or KKK flags that day. I'm seriously questioning if you live in America at all, how can I know this and you not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPYING 1 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Maturin said: Myth: The children have to be separated from their parents because there parents must be arrested and it would be cruel to put children in jail with their parents - FALSE. First, in the case of economic migrants crossing the border illegally, criminal prosecution has not been the legal norm, and families have been kept together at all cost. Also, crossing the border without documentation is a typically a misdemeanor not requiring arrest, but rather a civil proceeding. Additionally, parents who have been detained have historically been detained with their children in ICE "family residential centers," again, for civil processing. The Trump administration's shift in policy is for political purposes only, not legal ones. See p. 18: https://www.aclu.org/…/ms-l-v-ice-plaintiffs-opposition-def… This family residential centers your talking about is funded by who ?? The American taxpayers, why should we pay for illegal law breakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Maturin said: The march had nothing to do with decent people, decently marching to keep a monument glorifying those that fought on the side of the slavers (first point, do you see the disconnect between "decent people marching" and the reason for this march?) The march was organised by white supremacists and other fascist terrorist groups such as the Nazi element in order to come together under the purpose of Unite The Right - the right in this case being all the extreme right wing terrorist organizations that you have in your country now. Trump knew this very well as the KKK and other fascist groups have been some of his most vocal supporters. Stop lying, either to us or yourself, there were no decent people marching under the Nazi or KKK flags that day. I'm seriously questioning if you live in America at all, how can I know this and you not? There were people marching in the parade,but not under the Nazi flag. Good or bad the monuments are a part of America's history,and many people who live in the South have relatives who died in the war fighting for the Confederacy,and they view those statues as a way of honoring their family members who died in the war. KKK flag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, SPYING 1 said: This family residential centers your talking about is funded by who ?? The American taxpayers, why should we pay for illegal law breakers. Yeah, you paid your taxes for Donald 💩 to remove children and babies from their parents to be kept in cages under armed guard, so why not pay for that not to happen? In fact your taxes, 458 million USD of your taxes, went to ONE company in order to lock up children and babies in cages. http://time.com/5316722/nonprofit-paid-458-million-trump-administration-detain-migrant-children-family-separation/ SERIOUSLY DO ANY OF YOU LIVE IN THE US, HOW DID YOU NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS FOR FUCK'S SAKE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said: There were people marching in the parade,but not under the Nazi flag. Good or bad the monuments are a part of America's history,and many people who live in the South have relatives who died in the war fighting for the Confederacy,and they view those statues as a way of honoring their family members who died in the war. KKK flag? This is getting ridiculous now. You people cannot live in the US. The levels of your underinformed opinons is simply staggering. Charlottesville, KKK Unless you provide some alternative evidence it is obvious that none of you live in the US as it appears that you've got no fucking idea what is going on in that country. There were no decent people marching along side, in front or behind the Nazis and the KKK. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Maturin said: This is getting ridiculous now. You people cannot live in the US. The levels of your underinformed opinons is simply staggering. Charlottesville, KKK Unless you provide some alternative evidence it is obvious that none of you live in the US as it appears that you've got no fucking idea what is going on in that country. There were no decent people marching along side, in front or behind the Nazis and the KKK. Period. There's a lot of what the world considers real Americans in this photo This is the US that I love. Decent people fighting against fascism and oppression. Fighting for the real American values of peace and liberty, taking a stand against the right wing bigots that lie and disgrace your flag- shame that there are only a couple of those real Americans in this thread but this photo gives me hope for your nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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