waldi Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 minute ago, nack said: Bla Bla Bla..i dont care what the guests or tenants earn or what their strategy is..i am here to see sex,sex and more sex.To hell with voyeurism 100% 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groomy Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, nack said: Bla Bla Bla..i dont care what the guests or tenants earn or what their strategy is..i am here to see sex,sex and more sex.To hell with voyeurism In theory, if you mount cameras in a porn studio with the broadcast 24/7 - this will also be voyeurism. And there are always apartments 80%+ realism. For example - Monica&Dan. But apartments with orgies/hot guests/parties have a lot of attention, in contrast to Monica&Dan-type. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, waldi said: It was Groomy who said that participants would have to pay more than they earn in vh, it wasn't me. Obviously some do it for free, some for enormous amount of money, there are no rules. But I have question for you. Why simply don't go to watch other site, if you feel that they cheat the real voyeurs?? what is actually your goal, because I don't understand you. Would you like them to shut down the site, change the name or what? Would you like the girls to stop spreading legs in front of cams or stop inviting guests, prostitutes, porn stars or whoever. What would you like them to do, please explain, cause I don't get it. I certainly don't want to speak for anyone but as an actual voyeur, even I admit that the concept is 100% dead on this site. VH is NOT a voyeur site, it's a straight up cam site. It's been this for a while and I've come to accept this. I think it's pretty stupid for people to constantly bitch about voyeurism, or lack thereof, on VH. I also think it's pretty stupid for people to criticize voyeurs for wanting to engage in voyeurism when the name of the fucking site has "VOYEUR" right in the title. When I started with RLC back in 2013/4, it wasn't -only- to see sex but I enjoyed learning the ins-and-outs of the couples I was watching. Sex was part of it but it wasn't the only factor, and at this point quite frankly I don't really give a shit if people don't understand that. But I will concede that here on VH there isn't much to learn about these people so I don't even bother anymore. Too much competition, too much outside influences, and now you can buy gifts for tenants. I think it's all fucking stupid. I think it's totally deceiving and scummy for VH to continue to call themselves a voyeur site and advertise themselves: " You're watching real people in real homes in the real time." This couldn't be farther from the fucking truth. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, miscvoyeur said: I think it's totally deceiving and scummy for VH to continue to call themselves a voyeur site and advertise themselves: " You're watching real people in real homes in the real time." This couldn't be farther from the fucking truth. as I understood, all what you want is to change the name and than, when they have changed the name, for example to "porn voyeur sex house", you will immediately stop watching it. Is that correct? well, I'd never say that name itself can be so fucking important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Just now, waldi said: It was Groomy who said that participants would have to pay more than they earn in vh, it wasn't me. Obviously some do it for free, some for enormous amount of money, there are no rules. But I have question for you. Why simply don't go to watch other site, if you feel that they cheat the real voyeurs?? what is actually your goal, because I don't understand you. Would you like them to shut down the site, change the name or what? Would you like the girls to stop spreading legs in front of cams or stop inviting guests, prostitutes, porn stars or whoever. What would you like them to do, please explain, cause I don't get it. Yes, I know, I was just trying to snare to lovely birds with one stone. Why simply don't go to watch other site, if you feel that they cheat the real voyeurs?? - Amy: I get asked this a whole lot!. It's because this the one that I know the most about and I'm not about to start all over again with a new one, unless it met my standards of what a voyeur site should be. "AKA, Amy's School of Voyeurism". Like it or not I helped build this site from the ground up and I'm invested in it. I've spent a lot time and energy following this site. I watched RLC before, but I didn't like it for a variety of reasons. There isn't another site that I can run to. If one comes along that meets my standards or has passable transgirls, I will probably switch. What is actually your goal, because I don't understand you. - Amy: My goals is pick a the underbelly of all that happens here in order to find what lives in the center of it all. I want to know what the rules are and how they are changed and broken by VHTV. I want to see what the tenants can get away with and I want to see how you all change to adapt to the new mores as they develop. I am a psychologist, I want to understand all kinds of human behavior, including my own. Would you like them to shut down the site, change the name or what? - Amy: No, I don't want them to shut it down, but I won't pay for what they offer. I want them to be a voyeur site that tries to preserve the niche and provides a glimpse into the real lives of people in their real homes in real time, just as their slogan says. Twitter announcements, contests, and staged cam shows designed for our viewing entertainment for the main purpose of getting paid for viewer time is not what a voyeur site should be about. Even VHTV knows this cause they said so themselves back in July 2017. They changed to follow the money. That's perfectly fine. I understand it, but yes, I really do think they should change their name to remove the word "voyeur". It is false advertising at this point because most of what is displayed here is in fact a staged cam show with people who are working the cams for money. And now, we finally have groomy saying so himself that some of the guest are in fact paid visitors. I think the main culprit is the existence of the managers, who are basically hiring people to live in an empty apt cam studio. The original idea was for the apts to be spokes on a wheel and tenants in each apt were independent and their own managers. I wish VHTV would get back to this concept. Would you like the girls to stop spreading legs in front of cams or stop inviting guests, prostitutes, porn stars or whoever. Amy: This one is more difficult to answer. I want the tenants to be their sexy selfs as they would if the cams weren't there. There really are people like this and I think VHTV should screen tenants who are by their own nature, overtly and quantifiably sex crazed. That is, I don't want to see boring people, living a boring life on VHTV. I cannot emphasize this point enough. It seems that over and over again, people who want to see "real voyeurism" are cast into a mold of people who want to stare at curtains on a wall! NO!!! We don't! I want to see the real sex crazed lives of real people on a voyeur site. Not a pretend crazed sex life of people who are just here to turn a trick for a few dollars over and over all day long. I would be perfectly happy to see a couple who work all day and then come home and have a sexy good time playing with each other that end with them passionately fucking each others brains, even if it only happens once a day or so. I also want to see real slutty girls who go to bars and bring home lots of guys to fuck and swingers who do the same. I want all that, but I want it to be basically real. By real, I mean that what they are doing is for the most part designed for their enjoyment, not the viewer. So, to answer your question. I don't think a voyeur site should be about girls shoving their pussy into a cam and bating for hours on end while they are half asleep. In other words, the tenant should live their normal life on cam and push the envelope of working the cams up the the point where it becomes more about the viewer then it is about their own sexual satisfaction. Once that threshold has passed, it a cam show and does not belong on a voyeur site. We all know that real voyeurism is not feasible. The job of a voyeur site is create the stage for the illusion of voyeurism to exist and it is the job of the tenants is to give us the viewer the illusion of realness of their life at all times. What would you like them to do, please explain, cause I don't get it. Amy: I want what VHTV promises in their slogan. I want what VHTV originally set out to be, the best voyeur site on the planet. Instead what I largely see is a copycat of what other sites are already doing and I see Spygasm on their horizon. As long as us voyeurs sit back and do nothing to slow the pace, the faster it will slip into that very thing and I fear that the niche of voyeurism will be lost for good here. Accepting cam shows as voyeurism is like driving a dagger into the whole idea of voyeurism. And to those people, I would ask why are you watching a voyeurism site? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 35 minutes ago, waldi said: 100% Sex, sex, sex is easy to come by, voyeurism is takes effort and is a challenge. Voyeurism is worth the price of entry, sex, sex, sex, is essentially free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nack Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Amateur Sex,Orgies,Scandals,Cheating,gangbangs,anal,dp's..I love VH..Sex Sex Sex. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nack Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Oops..Back to Topic..What a lovely site 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, nack said: Amateur Sex,Orgies,Scandals,Cheating,gangbangs,anal,dp's.. Especially this part.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nack Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 GN Zach..Peaceful Sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nack Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 minute ago, miscvoyeur said: Especially this part.. Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Amy3 said: Sex, sex, sex is easy to come by, voyeurism is takes effort and is a challenge. Voyeurism is worth the price of entry, sex, sex, sex, is essentially free. I've got building business, that's the challenge. Building the new houses, that's the challenge What you're talking about is just simply - nothing. Voyeurism, sex for money, porn sites, all that means absolutely fucking nothing, zero. It's just for my amusement in my spare time and nothing else, so please, don't make me laugh and stop writing elaborations about voyeurism, unless you want to open new site and than perhaps, I will buy subscription, but of course it depends what you will offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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