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Kitty & Zack (2019) Part #1


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4 minutes ago, waldi said:

that will be decided by the customers, my friend; vhtv must adjust to the market or disappear, there are no third way, really, unless they want to stay almost unnoticeable, like LUC or VV 🙂

Agree,VH goes to the direction that gives more profit(like all companies do),Till now they weren't unnoticeable..they were in an more niche market togheter with rlc,were the two only camsites with an certain type of content,that's what make them grow and be profitable stable way.Some will enjoy the new route others don't.Curiosly VH it's more and more like VV than ever.

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12 hours ago, Amy3 said:

Joop! Sta mij toe om uit te leggen. James heeft bevestigd via zijn onvermogen om mijn zeer eenvoudige vraag te beantwoorden, de volgende: VHTV is geen voyeur website. Het is een 24/7 porno studio die is gewijd aan camwhores voorzien, om James' woord, die de nokken werken voor geld te gebruiken. Ze betalen deze managers, die dan betalen deze amateur en in sommige gevallen misschien wel professionele porno sterren, wat je ook wilt noemen, om een verscheidenheid van het geslacht in het licht van de nokken de hele dag te hebben. Soms betalen ze om seks te hebben op bepaalde plaatsen, afhankelijk van de behoeften van het bedrijf. Het punt is VHTV is niet het echte leven meer dan een porno ingesteld op Brazzers is het echte leven. Het is opgevoerd en gepland en ontworpen voor het bekijken entertainment van de abonnees. Het is een show. De onderdelen die gebeuren in tussen zijn inconsequent om de machine en echt niemand geeft wat er gebeurt in tussen de seksscènes. Waarheid! 

Dan, CC, voor zover VHTV gaat, is niet een open forum van ideeën. Het is een forum voor de fans. Groupies, baby slangen ,, als je wil! Durven niet aan de kant van iets negatiefs in de richting van VHTV met een paar keuze uitzonderingen op die regel. Omdat het hier betekent dat je in een relatie met de acteurs op het scherm en sleept hun lijn voor iedereen te zien. Klim aan boord of worden overgelaten aan de steiger af wat er gaande is. Er is weinig discussie over VHTV als een voyeur site, of wat er gaande is. Al deze dingen zijn reeds bekend of zijn gewoon een kwestie van het hotel. Afwijkende meningen worden hier niet gewaardeerd en zij zal worden voldaan met een muur van stilte of een dreiging van uitzetting. Hoe dan ook, er is eigenlijk maar één vorm van tekst hier. De liefdevolle, kruiperig, pik kwijlende soort dat de bal beweegt in het voordeel VHTV's. 

NEE! Dit is niet een voyeur site en ik heb geen interesse in het volgen van het leven van camwhores en dus ik heb echt niets meer te zeggen. Ik behoudt zich het recht om te doen wat ik wil. Tot dan, vaarwel! 

Thank you for your explanation. I will not mention the subject on this page anymore,

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10 hours ago, Amy3 said:

People can do whatever they want to.  Do you call porn voyeurism? Do people commonly refer to porn as voyeurism? No, they don’t. Voyeurism is more commonly viewed as a form of spying on others, unbeknownst to them, for the purpose of sexual gratification of the spier. The point is James knows what voyeurism is. Well, he used to anyways. He is the one who made this distinction, not me. Back then, I was making a comment that if I were a tenant that I would be working the cams too. It was in that context that he claimed that his site was not dedicated to feature camwhores, who work the cams for money. He said that, not me. Let me know when he is willing to affirm that his site isn’t dedicated to featuring those type of people. He won’t! He can’t anymore. It’s painfully obvious that he can’t. This forum has become fandom. It’s a relationship with tenants who then perform for their groupies as they relish the ohs and ahs of their conquests and progressions until one day no one cares and they are abandoned and the door closes. This, as we are told, is fun. Anyways, I’m my view, voyeurism is worth the price of entry, porn is free. Enjoy your porn, I mean voyeurism, whatever you want to call it. 

I think you can define voyeurism as live unscripted porn, it can be a sub category of porn. lets not kid ourselves, this is porn, and most people who watch these sites, do so for gaining sexual pleasure (there might be a minority with different reasons). it's not an uncensored live reality show (which might be a good idea, and perhaps what you are looking for). 

my other point is as far as I know there is no authority that defines the rules and regulation of voyeurism. I know what your views are, as you have repeated them so many times,  but that's just your views, it doesn't count for much. you might refer to James, but he is not an authority either, and as you can see the reality of the market has pushed him to change his mind. 

I agree with you about camming, I am not saying it is not voyeurism, but because there are so many platforms for live webcam shows,  I rather see the them on chaturbate or mfc than on VHTV which has it's own format. but what I don't understand is why are you complaining about this under some tenant's topic who do not do it. as I recall Zack&Kitty have not engaged in webcam shows yet (correct me if I am wrong), but still they are being targeted for it.  

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9 minutes ago, ze81 said:

Agree,VH goes to the direction that gives more profit(like all companies do),Till now they weren't unnoticeable..they were in an more niche market togheter with rlc,were the two only camsites with an certain type of content,that's what make them grow and be profitable stable way.Some will enjoy the new route others don't.Curiosly VH it's more and more like VV than ever.

I said this many times: rlc is only one and unique; who wants to be like them has to face possible severe failure; the only chance is to come up with something different and so far,  vhtv is doing it well; luv wants to be like rlc on the beginning and where they are? no one wants to pay for it anymore, it's simply too late for this project; even rlc went forward

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6 minutes ago, waldi said:

I said this many times: rlc is only one and unique; who wants to be like them has to face possible severe failure; the only chance is to come up with something different and so far,  vhtv is doing it well; luv wants to be like rlc on the beginning and where they are? no one wants to pay for it anymore, it's simply too late for this project; even rlc went forward

Think there was market for two main cam site like rlc and old VHTV.But probraby the larger market of chaturbate style site makes more money,so they go were the money is.If in future they will survive in such competitive market only time will tell.At least one old,loyal,that pay every month clients they lost..me.But cam sites are cam site..if for exemple an new house open with girls i found very atractive i will probably pay to watch.we all will be were(if god permits)to see what worked and what didn't worked,Cheers my friend.

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